you are just like me, i have no idea what the terms of work is to say this or that in indesign. lol - i sometimes refer to it as 'shit' for example i called my mate yesterday since he is a pro on this and he had no idea what i was saying coz i kept saying 'how do you do this shit?' 'whats this shit menu doing and do?' it took ages for em to figure what i was 'shitting' about. lol