Nope, those are earthy clays, I've never had any luck with that. I use Super Sculpey, which is a polymer clay, and doesn't dry out like earthy clays do. It's a lot more manageable. And Super Sculpey is baked in a home oven, it gets ruined by kilns. Which is unfortunate in a way, because not much can fit in a home oven and limits the size of the sculpture