XXAnemia's avatar
Ok, i'm gonna have to just say, i don't take well to being criticised by people way under my skill level. Can you please, PLEASE take your own advice before trying to enforce it on me? You've got one character drawn over and over again in a clashing color scheme in your gallery. I did look through it by the way, and I am going to have to conclude that you have no basic concept of anatomy, color, shading or lighting, and that your style is very generic and that of every other western anime fan who wants to try out drawing. You need to take a life drawing class, because i've looked through your gallery and you really haven't improved, you also need to try making your coloring smoother if you're not doing cell shading because it clashes, and badly.

You say my artwork is 'rather unpleasant to look at', which does not explain why i get at least 20 favorites before I submit anything to a group, and you get about 3? The public have spoken C:

You say your art is true to life, anime with a realistic twist? Please, look at a real person before saying that because there is nothing that defines your style from every other 16 year old weeaboo's on deviantart. I've been to one of the best known art schools in Australia on a scholarship, both my parents are artists, and I've attended life drawing classes. Yeah, don't talk to me about your style being 'true to life'. It's not. It is so far from it, unless you're under the mistaken impression that by making your characters bland and dull it makes them realistic.

Sorry, i don't mean to come off as insulting in this, just take it as constructive criticism from someone who actually knows what they're talking about C:
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
Take a good long look at this comment you posted.
Because right now my HYPOCRITE detector is going off on this post.
c:
XXAnemia's avatar
This bitch is an idiot. Therefore I can troll her by telling her pretty much the same things she said to me.
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
How is she an idiot?
Because she actually can take critique unlike your whiny little self? c:
XXAnemia's avatar
lolol

Whatever you say!
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
Mmhm. c:

So you admit to being wrong about all this?
XXAnemia's avatar
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
So you're going to remain ignorant and cocky?
deidaraart5's avatar
You're not trying to come off as insulting yet you're calling me a generic weeaboo teen? LOL where the hell's your logic in that? That could be counted as VERY insulting.

Do movie critics make movies? 98% of the time, no they do not. Does that mean they don't know what they're talking about? No, it doesn't. Get off your high horse and suck it up.
I normally don't draw that character as much as I have been, and I've been working on other art that doesn't involve her, though I can't post one because I don't have permission from the commissioner yet. (Plus she's incredibly boring to draw truthfully- I drew her way too much when I was younger :/ )

LOL I have no basic concept of anatomy, color, shading, etc? Obviously you're just looking at my chibis and old art (oh wait, you couldn't be looking at my old art since I "haven't improved"). Because I actually have a decent sense of anatomy (Of course I could be a lot better, everyone could be.), decent sense of color (I happen to like odd color combination's, shoot me.), and if you haven't notice, I can follow a lightsource. (I need to work on reflected light though)
I've not improved? Have you not looked into the depths of my gallery? Yes, I have improved. Quite drastically as well. You're just too pissed at me to notice this fact XD As for my coloring- Oh god I hate it so much. I've been trying to find a good style for AGES. Still searching for one. Considering as I don't like generic anime coloring style- It's /everywhere/ and boring. So I'll have to agree with you there. Though you can't say much because you could work on yours as well.

You get those because you draw tits, sex appeal, and fanart. Not because you're "spectacular". Me? I don't draw any of those things, so of course I don't get as many favorites. That's dA logic for you.

Oh goody, you went to art school~! Does that mean you're any better then me? Nope! I happen to look at real people all the time. I use myself for reference a lot, as well as my friends. It's how I mostly learned to draw. Yes I could still improve. But hey, as you said, I'm still only 16. I've got the rest of my life to improve <3

You should probably stop being butthurt because someone had an opinion against your art sweety, it makes you look really sad C:
xxsyphilis's avatar
um, lol! he's obviously a way better artist than you, every one of your pictures are flat and dull, and can you point out where this "realistic twist" occurs? and as for fanart, there are what, 4? yeah ok cool, that must be where he gets the pageviews from... but what about all the favourites on the hundreds of OCs in there as well? it's great that you're trying to be all helpful with your criticism, but it doesn't count if you draw way worse AND blatantly call it bad... i don't even know what else i can say, this isn't even fun to read through anymore, you're an idiot :(
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
So you're saying that what she did was rude,
But yet you can call her an 'idiot' who 'draws way worse'.

:I Who's really the rude one here?


Oh, and learn how to type.
What are you, ten?
xxsyphilis's avatar
i'm 18, and yeah she was being rude, precocious and condescending. it kind of bugged me that she kept pushing it when she was so in the wrong! i can see you're trying to defend a friend here but learn when to quit... also speaking of learning, what do i need to learn with typing? i'm happy for some constructive criticism! :p i don't use capital letters at the beginning of sentences, but this isn't exactly a formal situation that would require me to do so, would you agree? if that isn't the problem, please feel free to let me know what it is! otherwise leave me alone, i don't really mind being rude. :)
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
Well clearly, good miss/sir/other,
You don't act like you're eighteen at all quite frankly.

She wasn't being rude in all honestly. One comment she made might've seemed rude, and that's what started this "fiasco". Had XXAnemia not overreacted, none of this would've happened.
And just exactly how was she in any way in the wrong? She gave some constructive criticism and she got bashed for it. She was polite in all honesty. If there's anyone in the wrong, it would me you and XXAnemia.
And I do know when to quit, but I know that my friend had no hurtful intentions when she gave criticism. I'm simply standing up for her because she's getting bashed though she did nothing wrong.

As for the typing-
Typing as you did/do makes you appear to have the education of that of a 10 year old.
So if you want to be thought of as eighteen, maybe you should use that education of yours as well as realize that you're wrong.

Have a nice day good sir/miss/other. c:
XXAnemia's avatar
...I'm just going to point out that the only wrong thing with his typing is the lack of upper case letters at the beginning on sentences, but other than that his comment is very literate...
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
No, there are grammar problems, and there are abbreviations mixed in.

And I love how you reply to THIS, but nothing else. :I
XXAnemia's avatar
I get a lot of messages... I usually don't reply to things. I just went to check if everyone was still arguing on this, so i could hide any new comments.
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
People wouldn't be arguing if you hadn't started it. :I
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XXAnemia's avatar
Rofl you deny being a weeaboo when your username is DEIDARAart5 and you signature is all about Hidan?
...yeah. Nah.

And as I just said, movie critics do have to get a degree before they can spread their opinions. So stop using that as an example, it does not apply to you.
It's sweet that you're trying to defend how much you draw your boring oc and your talentless style though C:
Looking at real people does NOT equal anatomy skills. You need to attend a life drawing class, seriously. You can't see how to draw someone who's moving and wearing clothes, you won't improve at all. And if you're copying your own body for your drawings, then I recommend seeing a doctor because there is probably something seriously wrong with you.

If you look through my gallery like you said you did, you'd notice that I have about 4 fan art pictures in there out of the 350 something pictures i've drawn. That's less than 2% of my gallery. Funny you should say that, since your name is Deidara...

Going to art school does make me better than you because you would never get into the course. For one thing, they hate generic anime styles, and like i said before, you really have no grasp of anatomy. I'm only one year older than you, but I was drawing the way you do now at 13, probably better.
deidaraart5's avatar
I actually would've changed my screenname to something different like I did on SheezyArt, only it took me several years to get as noticed as I am. I kinda don't want to start from square one again LOL
As for the Hidan thing- That's from like...3 years ago. I still find it funny, so I never changed it.

Hey yeah, why are you throwing around insults, sweety? It's making you look really bad. Especially when you're insulting my body. Have I ever insulted how you look? Have I ever insulted your original characters? I've not. I don't plan on it either. Why should I stoop to your level? I'd rather keep myself above looking like more of an idiot. I've also not called you rude names, and I don't intend on it.

If you look through my gallery you'll see about 6 (Most of which are from when I was younger and actually did draw fanart. Don't go look though- They're shit LOL )

Actually I could get into the course. Very easily too. I just don't choose to because I'd break down out of fear. (Not like you care- I'm nothing but shit to you.)

I'd really appreciate it if you stopped acting like a 5 year old and started acting like you're actually 17. Because I'm being cordial now, and I really don't appreciate your snide attitude.
maddmouse's avatar
Excuse me miss.
Your words are as bad as anyones, even though you say "You're not being rude and calling names thus making Anemia look bad". That is not exactly right.
You're just sugar-coating your own snide comments and it is showing very clearly.

I'm just pointing out that, though you may not think you're being offensive, you're coming off terrible offensive.

I'm not trying to pick on you, everyones bad for things, but something like this I feel needs to be pointed out.
eloquentllama's avatar
you really have no place to tell her how to draw when her art is clearly better. its art, she can put shadows wherever the hell she wants. dont like the tutorial? well thats why they put a back button on your browser.
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
It's not a matter of "who's art is better".
Unless the artist specifically asks for no critique, anyone is able to critique. It's really as simple as that.
eloquentllama's avatar
well nobody was complaining about her critique, it was all more the comment about how her art was "dull and boring" that got the party started
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
Yes, that was a fault she made, but after she pointed out that she didn't mean it that way. She meant it as "Too much of the same thing makes it not as interesting". She did not mean it as an attack, the artist took it that way.
Had =XXAnemia not started attacking =deidaraart5, this wouldn't have happened, and all of this could have been avoided.
eloquentllama's avatar
regardless whatever that one person meant it as, it was rude
BlueberryRhymes's avatar
You're not one to talk about being rude, miss.
I recall that before =XXAnemia deleted her journal,
You yourself were rude and calling =deidaraart5 terrible things, though she never targeted you.
So think before calling someone rude- it makes you sound like a hypocrite.
deidaraart5's avatar
Do movie critics have to make movies? Nope. Does my art have to be better then her's to critique her? Nope.

Oh I never said I didn't like the tutorial. The tutorial itself is fine and informative. I just happen to have different tastes in art then her. She just happened to react poorly to my comment.
XXAnemia's avatar
No, but movie critics have to go to university and study movies before their opinion is valid, and sorry hun but school art class doesn't count as a degree C:
deidaraart5's avatar
Less then 5% of people who go to an art school actually can make a career out of it- Going to art school, taking art classes, they mean virtually nothing in the standpoint of who's better.
XXAnemia's avatar
Shame you aren't good enough to get accepted, because then you'd see that it's not all about getting a "career" out of it. It's about getting better.
deidaraart5's avatar
Would you stop acting so childish and please get off your high horse. It's doing nothing but making me pity you. Throwing around insults like you're a 6 year old does not make you seem "cool" or "mature"- It just makes you look pathetic.
eloquentllama's avatar
she never asked you to tell her how to draw shadows and highlights it had nothing to do with anything and you going on to insult all of her gallery is really rather pathetic on your part.

its probably because your comments were pretty much you trying to insult her "nicely". sorry but you cant sugarcoat bullshit.
deidaraart5's avatar
She's on an art site, hun. Unless she states in the description she doesn't want critique, I'm fully allowed to critique her. That's part of the reason people post on the site- They want feedback. Negative is included in that.

She insulted me first. I'm not saying I was completely in the right, because hey, I wasn't. But does that mean she's allowed to treat me however she likes? No, it doesn't.
maddmouse's avatar
Ah-
Just..
Two little things to add to that.

"Unless she states in the description she doesn't want critique, I'm fully allowed to critique her. That's part of the reason people post on the site- They want feedback. Negative is included in that."
That my dear, is not true.
It's not some unspoken rule and I am plenty my own critique without having another opinion.
It's usually they comment asking for a critique if it's wanted, not the other way around.
Because then things can go badly.

Also, 'negativity' is not meant to be in a critique, it's meant to be helpful. Not negative.

Don't mind me it's just that really bugged me. orz;;;
eloquentllama's avatar
There was still no reason for you to dog her art calling it boring when youre not really the boring police. what you think of boring "after three pictures" really doesnt mean shit to anyone except you. that's an opinion, not a critique.
deidaraart5's avatar
I'm fully entitled my opinion you know.

I gave her my critique, she responded, I gave her my opinion (And then apologized because I sounded more rude then I intended to), she blew up at me and insulted me, I became rather rude in return, etc.

I commented with the intention of trying to be helpful in all honesty. You probably don't believe me, but I just thought I'd let you know that fact, since your friend neglected to mention that.
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