Comment on Gay debate - FULL by AtheosEmanon

While I admit some hm hesitation that a religious based website would be against homosexuality .. I saw no citations for any of their claims .. they did say read the full online paper here but that site seems to no longer be in operation or rather the place they linked to has the "Not Found
The requested URL /ccn/Questions_Ansers.pdf was not found on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."

Just in case I searched "dvstudios.com which links to a youtube channel which has many videos on the many dangers of gay rights..  but I say again, all of their arguments were biblical and not a one was constitutional.. so I would be hesitant in a nation governed by the constitution, not the bible to look solely at 1 - religious based site which citation has been deleted and the paper which when looked up.. I admit uses religious based arguments, and with greatest respect for the religious person if that is fine for them, have at it, hoss. But I would have loved to see a constitution based argument as to why we should not have gay rights.

Now, much of their data is more than 15 years old which is a second reason why I cannot take it seriously.. especially the Domestic violence claim which is from a 1996 report hm you know..

Wikipedia is not what I would consider a reliable site since of course anyone can edit it..
With respect to Domestic violence, of which their report comes from a 1996 report which has been debunked many times, but here is a recent piece
www.americanprogress.org/issue…

This site in one of its links looked at the 1996 numbers and shows their sampling size is the way it was calculated was very wrong and that the numbers of domestic violence is relatively the same

Sadly, what they did get right is suicide, gay teens especially commit suicide as well as depression at higher rates than heterosexual teens for several factors, abuse, bullying, not being accepted etc.. so that sadly is correct - - as well as drug use, which many, as well as the American Psychological Association says that gays, especially teens use it as a coping mechanism, so that may be true  but there are several factors in that..

As far as  their STD claims, that perhaps was true in the 1980s to 1996 when the study was done.. but since 1996 rates of STDs in homosexuals have been decreasing, and sadly the newest and most prevalent cases of STDs are young people of color - - mostly black and Latinos.

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/minori…
That is from our CDC, official government website for the Center for Disease controls and that was posted in 2012.. so not using 30 year old numbers as that site did..

I cannot speak to the Nicotine dependence since in America.. Nicotine is a legal substance, so I do not know of any studies that studies who smoke more gays or straights - - The last study I saw was in 2012 and said they smoked around 20% more than straights but that only looked at Los Angeles, California so I cannot say about gays everywhere since that site did not give a citation

As far as gays as pedophiles or child abusers, hm that does not meet the evidence, most cases of child abuse are by adult males on little girls, and those are not by definition homosexual actions.. psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty…
www.dailykos.com/story/2010/09…



I would need a citation for the drinking part, I could find nothing on that that they drink more, so it may or may not be true


-    - Sites that say stuff like that are usually sites like NARTH which the American Psychological Association has said that NARTH is a site which does not meet any basic sniff test of scientific data since they [NARTH] makes claims like all gays were molested, the majority of gays are pedophiles and sleep with animals, etc…


I chose not to use wikipedia, I consider wikipedia an okay site to get basic information but. since it can be edited by almost anyone  it is not what I would consider "reliable"