zelaznostopy's avatar
Don't think like this! >_< Relic is maybe now concentrated on something else but it doesn't mean they won't return to HW! There were already information about project Homeworld 3. And I know that THQ rules there but they still remember this old game. Here you got: "There has been speculation supported through various sources that Relic has re-acquired the rights to the Homeworld franchise from Vivendi. Finally, following the discovery of a document on the United States Patent and Trademark Office's electronic filing system by a fan, THQ confirmed that Relic indeed owns the trademark again, making a continuation of the series under THQ's lead possible" - Wikipedia

Don't lose your faith! THQ is a good companion for Relic - just give them some time and a chance...
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That news is several years old.

When I went to the last Game Developer's Conference, the Relic representative didn't know anything about Homeworld, but was eager to discuss Company of Heroes.

Unless you give me hard evidence of Homeworld 3's production, I'm saying it's dead.
zelaznostopy's avatar
I can't give you any hard evidence of Homeworld 3's production. I also couldn't ever give any hard evidence of e.g. Warcraft 3's production in 2000. You see... If anyone's got a good project, they won't ever talk about it, leaving only simple ideas for ordinnary people... Until appropariate time...

Homeworld 3 is not being produced... But somewere in future, when THQ and Relic will have all Dawn of Wars and Companies of Heroes finished and "exhausted", they will return to older sagas, like they returned to Dawn of War after few years...

THQ is a nice company. There were already petitions to them about many things and THQ listened to them. They listen to their players.
Don't lose your faith, because none of THQ's projects was ever left.
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Most of the staff who made Homeworld have already left Relic for other projects. All the constituent parts that made Homeworld possible have disbanded.

Realistically, what cause would bring them all back together? Just because the fans want it isn't enough of a reason. As memorable as it was for us, others found it "too confusing" for play. Even among fans Homeworld 3 was a disappointment (not to me, but still.)

Hoping for Homeworld 3 is like Hoping for Outpost 3.
zelaznostopy's avatar
And do you recall Heroes of Might and Magic V? In theory - made by a different team. In practise - great heir of HoM&M 3, with all its best advantages and without its disadvantages. It was different, although it was made in different times but it is still an amazing continuation of this saga. ;)

There's no need of bringing entire team back together. Like in Deus Ex: Human Revolution - few man from the original team can be main designers and the programmists, artist etc. can be people of different studio. ^-^

Also reason to design HW3 can be really simple - everyone has their dreams and there can come time when Relic will try to ressurrect HW.

"Hoping for Homeworld 3 is like Hoping for Outpost 3." Maybe you're right but if waiting for Homeworld 3 would be like waiting for Duke Nukem Forever... You see... 10 years after, it realises. :D

Homeworld 3 is a ghost. If you believe in it, it will come true. :)
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Dreams aren't enough to bring a game back from the dead. Only if there's a market for a game will funding be appropriated. Homeworld is a very niche RTS with an above-average story and none of the marketing draws of an MMO. Relic probably saw the sales for Homeworld 2 and decided to push the DoW bandwagon to exploit a new and larger fanbase with disposable incomes and/or rich parents (like 40K players).

Duke Nuke 'em can hardly be drawn as a comparison because for a long time it was in development. We don't even have THAT for Homeworld 3. The only thing we DO have for it is wishful thinking on our part. Relic might have the license back, but if anything this denies other companies from making a true successor while Relic squats on the license!

Nothing you're going to say is going to convince me that Homeworld isn't dead, unless you're a Relic or Ex-Relic employee who knows something I don't.

I've put far too much fan-effort into Relic and Homeworld, with scarcely any official recognition, to believe in the miraculous resurrection of Homeworld.
I agree with you. i don't have any hopes of any of this franchise being continued, at least not until someone sells the license and some rich fellow is like, "sweet, let's make a movie" but it's decades in coming if at all.
I'll settle for fan stories and marvelous fan art like that you make and take comfort in that I got to experience the games and their wonderful universe.
zelaznostopy's avatar
Dang, guy... You really DON'T want to trust them, do you? ;P
You're really stubborn about your mind. I won't argue anymore with you, even if it gave any change.
I understand you. I don't want you to think I'm rude, so I'll admit - you're right. ^-^
Keep it up! :)
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I've just had enough disappointments in life to teach me not to put hope in something that won't happen, almost especially when I want it to. I don't see any evidence Relic is going to return to Homeworld. The license retrieval was exiting but nothing's been said since, which tells me it was only a red herring.

I don't think you're rude, just unrealistically optimistic. Nothing wrong about that, just be prepare to be disappointed. If anything I'm being especially bitter, though that's understandable since I was one of Homeworld's biggest fans.
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I dunno. Maybe that isn't quite true- all of my artwork influenced their short-lived Relic newsletter.

I'm disappointed in where Relic's gone and how far they've taken their new directions. Homeworld was truly unique and they forgot all about it. Like NuBSG Eclipsing the old, Relic's all about Dawn of War and Company of Heroes now with hardly a word for Homeworld except a ceremonial word or two. The universe is largely in the hands of the fans, which God only knows what'll happen under their control.

As I am no fan of 40K after sucking so much money out of my wallet for so little gain, I can see Relic's movements as a form of betrayal. Necessary perhaps, but betrayal anyway. I still keep their swag since I'm a fan of the old Relic, but until they change directions and become more original, I have no hope for Homeworld except what's in our minds.