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Aug 27, 2005, 7:11:48 AM
Aug 27, 2005, 7:11:48 AM
First off, don't assume I'm just some Wintel geek who thinks it's cool to be running macOS on my PC just for the hell of it. I grew up on Macs, my first comp was a mac performa and I still have a 7200/180 workgroup server in the back room that still gets daily use. I've worked on everything from black and white screened powerbooks running system 7 to duel processor G5s. I still read MacAddict from time to time, and was online in IRC during the last WWDC so I could see hear what was happening and when it was happening.
There's a few reasons why I haven't bought a mac. First off, too much money that I don't have. When you're 19, in college, and don't have the means of building up credit, then, well, options are severely limited. Secondly, I hate the fact that not only is the hardware sub standard as far as specs (the processor I can deal with, but in RAM, Disk Space, and optical drives they fall way short), and the cases, while nifty looking, leave little room for upgrade. The "Superdrive" is a nice concept, but when you can get an NEC 16x dvd burner for $50, it makes you wonder why you'd want to settle for a toshiba mac-only drive that's not nearly as fast.
I never said apple is going to become a software company strictly, and I know they'll never do that. Job's past is in electronics, circuitry, stuff like that. I know he doesn't want to give that up.
With that said, I used to tell people the same thing you're telling me: that mac os is running so good because it's programmed for a select few machines. The problem that I've seen? MacOSX 10.4 runs better on a 1.7ghz celeron on an IBM Netvista board from 2001 then a 1.2GHZ G4 ghz iBook from 2004. If I run a dock prog under windows (Object Dock, YZ's dock, etc) on my current PC (from the screenshot), it runs like crap. Yet in OS X, the dock, with magnification, works flawlessly, and without the right graphics drivers! It's the OS engineering that's so awsome, not the hardware integration. The only problem with it on x86 is the drivers (and the fact that I can't run rosetta, but that's a chip issue), which will be fixed in time.
I don't understand how OS X would become a bloated piece of crap, as you put it. Do you mean just to include all the needed drivers and crap? That's the only bloat I can think of, considering if you install all the printer drivers when you install Tiger, that's another gig.
I've been a mac crusader for years bro, just because I don't have the kick ass setup like you do and have to fight through applying a VM ware image to my drive doesn't mean i'm hopping on the mactel bandwagon here.
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There's a few reasons why I haven't bought a mac. First off, too much money that I don't have. When you're 19, in college, and don't have the means of building up credit, then, well, options are severely limited. Secondly, I hate the fact that not only is the hardware sub standard as far as specs (the processor I can deal with, but in RAM, Disk Space, and optical drives they fall way short), and the cases, while nifty looking, leave little room for upgrade. The "Superdrive" is a nice concept, but when you can get an NEC 16x dvd burner for $50, it makes you wonder why you'd want to settle for a toshiba mac-only drive that's not nearly as fast.
I never said apple is going to become a software company strictly, and I know they'll never do that. Job's past is in electronics, circuitry, stuff like that. I know he doesn't want to give that up.
With that said, I used to tell people the same thing you're telling me: that mac os is running so good because it's programmed for a select few machines. The problem that I've seen? MacOSX 10.4 runs better on a 1.7ghz celeron on an IBM Netvista board from 2001 then a 1.2GHZ G4 ghz iBook from 2004. If I run a dock prog under windows (Object Dock, YZ's dock, etc) on my current PC (from the screenshot), it runs like crap. Yet in OS X, the dock, with magnification, works flawlessly, and without the right graphics drivers! It's the OS engineering that's so awsome, not the hardware integration. The only problem with it on x86 is the drivers (and the fact that I can't run rosetta, but that's a chip issue), which will be fixed in time.
I don't understand how OS X would become a bloated piece of crap, as you put it. Do you mean just to include all the needed drivers and crap? That's the only bloat I can think of, considering if you install all the printer drivers when you install Tiger, that's another gig.
I've been a mac crusader for years bro, just because I don't have the kick ass setup like you do and have to fight through applying a VM ware image to my drive doesn't mean i'm hopping on the mactel bandwagon here.
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-John Cruz :: [link]
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Since you're not a real Mac user you don't understand the fact that the reason the OS runs so smooth, so integrated, so stably has to do with the fact that it's running on select machines. If Apple were to let their OS just go out into the masses, OS X would become a bloated piece of crap.
There's a few reasons why I haven't bought a mac. First off, too much money that I don't have. When you're 19, in college, and don't have the means of building up credit, then, well, options are severely limited. Secondly, I hate the fact that not only is the hardware sub standard as far as specs (the processor I can deal with, but in RAM, Disk Space, and optical drives they fall way short), and the cases, while nifty looking, leave little room for upgrade. The "Superdrive" is a nice concept, but when you can get an NEC 16x dvd burner for $50, it makes you wonder why you'd want to settle for a toshiba mac-only drive that's not nearly as fast.
I never said apple is going to become a software company strictly, and I know they'll never do that. Job's past is in electronics, circuitry, stuff like that. I know he doesn't want to give that up.
With that said, I used to tell people the same thing you're telling me: that mac os is running so good because it's programmed for a select few machines. The problem that I've seen? MacOSX 10.4 runs better on a 1.7ghz celeron on an IBM Netvista board from 2001 then a 1.2GHZ G4 ghz iBook from 2004. If I run a dock prog under windows (Object Dock, YZ's dock, etc) on my current PC (from the screenshot), it runs like crap. Yet in OS X, the dock, with magnification, works flawlessly, and without the right graphics drivers! It's the OS engineering that's so awsome, not the hardware integration. The only problem with it on x86 is the drivers (and the fact that I can't run rosetta, but that's a chip issue), which will be fixed in time.
I don't understand how OS X would become a bloated piece of crap, as you put it. Do you mean just to include all the needed drivers and crap? That's the only bloat I can think of, considering if you install all the printer drivers when you install Tiger, that's another gig.
I've been a mac crusader for years bro, just because I don't have the kick ass setup like you do and have to fight through applying a VM ware image to my drive doesn't mean i'm hopping on the mactel bandwagon here.
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