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enigmawing Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
Since you sent your next reply to this post in a note and because you've given me permission to post here it in my journal, here we are. To keep things straight and orderly, here's a screencap of the note you sent me: [link] (I added the hilghlighting to clarify that you indeed gave me permission to post this).

And I will take this opportunity to directly reply to your note. Because of the length it will be done in two parts.

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~neocloud88h- "You can post this in your journal if you want, but I thought I'd note you instead for this last post so:"

*enigmawing- Gladly.

~neocloud88h- "Ok wait... your story just got mixed up. Originally that character was supposedly named "Jazmin Dandelot" not "Jessica Elfwood" so... I'm sorry if I don't believe you about that."

*enigmawing- Well I'm sorry if you misunderstood. I never named off a specific character other than saying "Jessica Elfwood," which is just one of many characters Arden created according to the moderator that was speaking of it. No description of said character either, so I really have no clue how you can claim I was mixing up my stories when I never once mentioned a "Jazmin Dandelot" or any of his other characters by name or description.

And speaking of stories that got "mixed up," I'd like to bring up the blonde photo again. It's interesting that you claimed to know who that person was in order to justify saying that it wasn't Jessica, then later took it back when I called you on it. [link] Like many, you're just trying to protect her. Which is understandable I guess and maybe even noble, but if you're lying to do so and are aware that she's lying too? That doesn't seem so noble to me, it looks rather desperate actually.

~neocloud88h "Also, DA messaged Jessica to tell her it was password theft of her account, and the IP address that hacked her was Australian Hard for her to fake that, I think... she's not exactly a master programmer."

*enigmawing- Um, you already made it sound like she's the master of using proxies to explain how she's supposedly hiding her whereabouts, nice job contradicting yourself. Ask your "government IP guy" dad on how easy it would be for someone faking a Mexican IP to fake an Australian one as well. But as I said, she's not faking her IP through a proxy regardless. As I've already explained, all the ones I've checked are DSL connections. So your dad can laugh at my evidence (which I did not even physically show) as long as I can laugh as his supposed job title. Oh, and wouldn't it be easy enough for Jessica to just say that dA told her it was someone in Australia? I mean, it's not like she has a history of being truthful, she even lied in her apology to everyone about the fake photos. Plus as I've said before, it would be downright silly for any hacker to put her real deviations in storage. Why would they do her the favor? She did it herself in an effort to preserve all her view counts, comments, and faves in case she's able to get her account back.

[continued in the next post]
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neocloud88h Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
The only things I'd like to add is that you're making the assumption that her friend (the Mexican paypal account, anyway) comes onto these sites and she doesn't, so I find you getting these IP addresses to be dubious. Oh and I've spoken to Draongeer who has said any admin claiming to do things like that would be sacked immediately, but it's not really his admin doing it. And just to make a point if you're saying she never used a proxy, then how'd she fake an Australian IP? She's some computer wiz that can't even fix her own computer? You're putting a lot of faith in coincidence and quite frankly I feel you're either easily manipulated by others' information like so many others or you've got something personally against her (Which I know you do). But that's private, and I'm not gonna go posting that around though considering the level of privacy breach on her behalf I probably should... Anyway, the last thing I'm gonna say, absolutely, is that I know her outside of the net. So, forgive me if I continue to disbelieve things that are said about where she lives and who she is. And I don't care if you believe me or not because at this point I realize how far people will go. After all if you were willing to spend years tracing IPs as you've said you have done then well, you've moved as obsessively as the rest.
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enigmawing Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
I'm not sure how I'm making any assumption about her friend coming onto these sites and not her. We've already had an FA admin establish that two separate identities (Jessica and her "friend," Kacey/Martha) on there post from the same IP with the term "sock puppet" thrown in. And I don't know who Draongeer is. As far as I know he doesn't participate in the forum I moderate so he wouldn't know how things work there.

Um, I thought I was the one who made the point about the proxy? You're talking in circles here. Once again, you were the one that initially claimed she always used a proxy, and anyone reading this can look up and see it right there in your post. I simply made the argument that if she did use a proxy to get an IP in Mexico, surely she'd be able to do the same for Australia? But I know better; once again, the IP's (at least the ones I've seen) are DSL connections.

So which is it then, according to you? Does she use a proxy to only make it look like she's in Mexico and thus had the ability to change her IP to an Australian one for the hacking? Or does she not know how to change her IP and really is in Mexico after all, which means you've been lying about her using the proxy? And either way, isn't it possible she's just lying about the whole Australia thing? It doesn't take a computer whiz to do that and it's something you apparently chose not to address.

"Years" of IP tracing? LOL . . . it was a simple five minute search I did the other day. It's easy to sort through a couple years' worth of posts in that time, don't you think?

Do I have something personal with her? This isn't about fake photos, or even getting "behind" on commissions. She did something extremely crappy to one of my friends (which I've chosen not to disclose publicly), which is more than enough to keep me from backing down. Plus she lied to me. She lied to Rey. She lied to thousands of people actually. And not just a little, she spent five years building an elaborate fake persona that she's used to manipulate people and whore herself out for attention and money. And I'm not cool with that. I'd made a few genuinely nice gestures toward her in the past and honestly thought I could consider her a friend, should I not feel at least a little betrayed?

By the way, you're failing to address all the other points I've made so I'm going to assume you have no valid arguments for them.
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neocloud88h Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
Alright Enigma this has gone far enough. I've addressed all of your arguments though you say I haven't (and I have admitted you had a point about her photos and her treating her clients badly), and you are saying I'm talking in circles while doing the same thing yourself. Except this one: if you're talking about your points about the hacker, I've addressed that. The hack was done in a way to make people trust her less, so that she wouldn't get sympathy. Although I hate to say it like this, Jessica is smarter than to mess up a fake hack if she wanted to do it. It's too messy to be an attempt to get sympathy. But now, lets just move our separate ways on this, clearly there's no point in arguing about it. You can act as you see fit and I will act as I see fit.
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The-Wolfie Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
Next you can write a story about JE having a 'trojan' in her 'backdoor'
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LINK1416 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
Maybe Stephanie Meyer can write a book on it too.
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enigmawing Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010
Sparkly! :lmao:
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enigmawing Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
I'll agree about moving our separate ways.
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arshesnei Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
Hello You seem to be ignoring something. I am the admin who said the location of Elwood. There are other ways you might want to read the [link]

I already spoke with Dragoneer. He knows I did not disclose any IP addresses. I did disclose however what was already known because other site owners who Elwood has been on confirm the addresses.

So here's a question for you. Is Jessica Elwood's FA account compromised or is Elwood able to access it?
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CODFANZ Featured By Owner 5 days ago
Do you know Dragoneer is secretly involved in cub porn?
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neocloud88h Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
First I don't see the relevance of that link perhaps I'm missing something. To my knowledge however, it is not compromised. Which was a smart move by whoever hacked her account, it made a lot of people trust her less. It didn't increase sympathy for her at all, really. But then people don't really think about how obsessively people go to discredit others for their own amusement.
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