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KioKonarage's avatar
Ehh I don't know about that. I wasn't too fond of Advent Children, it made Sephiroth look really super weak when in all actuality it is quite the opposite.
heredia28's avatar
for me it showed Cloud as coward - cause he won only with the aid of lots of folk and he wouldnt survive attack of Yazoo(Yazoo is cool determinated baby, i admire his pattern of behaviour - it is so fucking cool, he is gennius when it came to firearm and i like how he beat shit out of Reno, it was cool too))if Aerith wouldnt interfere, same with Kadaj`s attack
RyuMakkuro's avatar
Well, it's not like he was that super strong. He was tough, so he showed, but in the end he got his ass kicked everywhere.
KioKonarage's avatar
XD well he is pretty strong, strong enough to almost destroy the world. But the thing is that in Crisis Core Sephiroth takes on both Genesis and Angeal with ease, totally destroying the landscape and pretty much wins the fight, but in Advent Children its like he is barely even trying and just stands there and lets Cloud kill him without even blocking or countering. Crisis Core Sephiroth > Advent Children Sephiroth. Either which way they are both good fights, but IMO Advent Children was the weak point of the FF7 series.
RyuMakkuro's avatar
Well have to disagree with you, Advent Children was the STRONG point of FF VII. In my point of view, Crisis Core was more of a weaker point.

So yeah, he almost defeat Angeal and Genesis, but they also have been defeated, and don't forget that after the Nibelheim accident Cloud was quite powered up by the Mako. So it's not that Sephiroth got weaker, just Cloud got stronger, simple as that. He got upper hand, but in the end he lost.
Her-Wishesx's avatar
Sephiroth was much stronger in Crisis Core than he was in Advent Children. Especially when Sephiroth was "reconstructed" from Kadaj and S Cells, which in the end it was never truly Sephiroth that was resurrected, it was Kadaj acting as some sort of host which didn't last very long. Sephiroth used none of the powers he had like he had in the original, he used entirely blade attacks and Cloud managed to end it using Omnislash.

So I dunno, both fights are really good, but Sephiroth was much stronger before he died 8|
RyuMakkuro's avatar
Everybody thinks that way, but in the reality he had full power in Advent Children. Kadaj was a remnant of Sephiroth. Yes, he wasn't as strong as Sephiroth, and he's body wasn't the same kind, but nevertheless when he put Jenova cells in him (not S-cell's, that was Jenova head he put inside of himself) he became Sephiroth, in all terms. He was able to summon that black sky, and it's not like he used in Crisis Core something else than blade attacks, so your argumentation is very off.

Oh, and Sephiroth didn't die in Crisis Core, he died when fighting Cloud in Northern Crater. Play the main game (Final Fantasy VII) before trying to prove something. It's the main game that matters the most.

As to the fight scenes, the one with Cloud is better, simply put it's more intense and the scenery and place where they are fighting is epic. It's not on a static place like cannon, it's between the falling pieces of Shinra building. That is epic and you can't deny it.
Her-Wishesx's avatar
Oh I never said that he died in Crisis Core, when I meant the original game, I meant the "main game" lol You seem to have misunderstood what I said ^^; I played the main game when it came out all those years ago, and I'm a big fan of the FFVII series.
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