"The thing is with the part of The Father of All Alicorns. It is stated that he is Truth. But then what is Veritas? Is she truth or honesty?"
And that is part of why I didn't want the pantheon bloody quantified to begin with. BECAUSE of 'setting and characterization' marching on!
Veritas could be considered Honesty, or Trust, or Truth. Father of Alicorns gave princess Luna a fraction of his power when she was born, it's possible since the Alicorns and Draconequus were all created from the essences of their parents, maybe AJ is reborn to BE that aspect of her new Father.
"What I meant is, would Fauna Luster and The Father of All Alicorns start a war themselves against the Draconnequs over something because of the same reasons Havoc considered starting it as he stated in the story he talks with Twilight. Things like that."
Every situation is different. And deciding to start a war is something you can't decide on a couple sentences of info. So I can't say.
And that is part of why I didn't want the pantheon bloody quantified to begin with. BECAUSE of 'setting and characterization' marching on!
Veritas could be considered Honesty, or Trust, or Truth. Father of Alicorns gave princess Luna a fraction of his power when she was born, it's possible since the Alicorns and Draconequus were all created from the essences of their parents, maybe AJ is reborn to BE that aspect of her new Father.
"What I meant is, would Fauna Luster and The Father of All Alicorns start a war themselves against the Draconnequs over something because of the same reasons Havoc considered starting it as he stated in the story he talks with Twilight. Things like that."
Every situation is different. And deciding to start a war is something you can't decide on a couple sentences of info. So I can't say.
And that is part of why I didn't want the pantheon bloody quantified to begin with. BECAUSE of 'setting and characterization' marching on!
Which is why I'm asking some things in the first place. If you don't want to have the pantheon quantified to begin with, then I'm sure you don't want some random person messing with it either.
Veritas could be considered Honesty, or Trust, or Truth. Father of Alicorns gave princess Luna a fraction of his power when she was born, it's possible since the Alicorns and Draconequus were all created from the essences of their parents, maybe AJ is reborn to BE that aspect of her new Father.
Hmm, yes, I see what you mean, and it makes the part of the test where Applejack is talking with him more meaningful.
Every situation is different. And deciding to start a war is something you can't decide on a couple sentences of info. So I can't say.
Yes, I admit that was a bad example.
Let me try again.
While he used the fight between Cadenza and Amicitia to help teach his daughter about violence, he reason he didn't get involved directly was because it was an ALICORN matter.
Would The Father of All Alicorns do something similar to that? Use something that happens between Draconnequs to teach an Alicorn a lesson about their concept?
If a Draconnequs had gone to Fauna Luster and asked for something the way that Celestia asked for something from Entropy (which then she messed up and it turned into the Windigoes), how would Fauna Luster had reacted?
There is also a part in the story where Applejack sees Entropy (well, a "fake area" with an Avatar of Entropy since seeing her would make her go mad or something). Entropy helps Applejack in the grounds that if she becomes Veritas then she would help save Chance by reforming her. Would that be a correct motivation for her? Also it has to be Entropy and not Havoc because Entropy is the end of all things, everything ends, everything will finish someday, the whole universe will fall to nothingness: it is a side of truth that Applejack doesn't like, but must accept in order to ascend.
Which is why I'm asking some things in the first place. If you don't want to have the pantheon quantified to begin with, then I'm sure you don't want some random person messing with it either.
Veritas could be considered Honesty, or Trust, or Truth. Father of Alicorns gave princess Luna a fraction of his power when she was born, it's possible since the Alicorns and Draconequus were all created from the essences of their parents, maybe AJ is reborn to BE that aspect of her new Father.
Hmm, yes, I see what you mean, and it makes the part of the test where Applejack is talking with him more meaningful.
Every situation is different. And deciding to start a war is something you can't decide on a couple sentences of info. So I can't say.
Yes, I admit that was a bad example.
Let me try again.
While he used the fight between Cadenza and Amicitia to help teach his daughter about violence, he reason he didn't get involved directly was because it was an ALICORN matter.
Would The Father of All Alicorns do something similar to that? Use something that happens between Draconnequs to teach an Alicorn a lesson about their concept?
If a Draconnequs had gone to Fauna Luster and asked for something the way that Celestia asked for something from Entropy (which then she messed up and it turned into the Windigoes), how would Fauna Luster had reacted?
There is also a part in the story where Applejack sees Entropy (well, a "fake area" with an Avatar of Entropy since seeing her would make her go mad or something). Entropy helps Applejack in the grounds that if she becomes Veritas then she would help save Chance by reforming her. Would that be a correct motivation for her? Also it has to be Entropy and not Havoc because Entropy is the end of all things, everything ends, everything will finish someday, the whole universe will fall to nothingness: it is a side of truth that Applejack doesn't like, but must accept in order to ascend.
"Would The Father of All Alicorns do something similar to that? Use something that happens between Draconnequs to teach an Alicorn a lesson about their concept?"
Possibly. But he'd treat it less like a dinner and a show like Havoc did (which is WHAT pissed off Amicitia about it, and Havoc was DELIGHTED she had the guts to call him out on it). And make doubly sure his child was safe for the whole thing, and likely wouldn't have made it a front row seat just so not to demean those present. Also, Rancor is violence, so it would be wrong NOT to expose her to it to help her properly development. This isn't true of others.
"If a Draconnequs had gone to Fauna Luster and asked for something the way that Celestia asked for something from Entropy (which then she messed up and it turned into the Windigoes), how would Fauna Luster had reacted?"
She'd have been less BRUTAL about it. And given she is EMPATHY INCARNATE, she'd likely consider the draconequus' point of view a lot more, and give the instructions in their language, on their level to AVOID such mess ups. Entropy's supreme apathy made that nearly impossible for her: Entropy due to her nature didn't care if Celestia messed up or not. Fauna Luster, being empathy WOULD HAVE CARED about the out come.
"Entropy helps Applejack in the grounds that if she becomes Veritas then she would help save Chance by reforming her. Would that be a correct motivation for her?"
That normally goes against the grain, since apathy is a BIG PART of her personality. Those who win or fail mean nothing to her.
Though there is a reveal soon that would change all that. But it would be a spoiler to tell you. But it would fit PERFECTLY with what you want here. Do you want that spoiler so you know how to fit into your story perfectly? She is the embodiment of heat death, the end of all things.
A friend suggested this:
"It'd probably be the aspect of her representing the end of evil or the end of sin or the like.
Possibly. But he'd treat it less like a dinner and a show like Havoc did (which is WHAT pissed off Amicitia about it, and Havoc was DELIGHTED she had the guts to call him out on it). And make doubly sure his child was safe for the whole thing, and likely wouldn't have made it a front row seat just so not to demean those present. Also, Rancor is violence, so it would be wrong NOT to expose her to it to help her properly development. This isn't true of others.
"If a Draconnequs had gone to Fauna Luster and asked for something the way that Celestia asked for something from Entropy (which then she messed up and it turned into the Windigoes), how would Fauna Luster had reacted?"
She'd have been less BRUTAL about it. And given she is EMPATHY INCARNATE, she'd likely consider the draconequus' point of view a lot more, and give the instructions in their language, on their level to AVOID such mess ups. Entropy's supreme apathy made that nearly impossible for her: Entropy due to her nature didn't care if Celestia messed up or not. Fauna Luster, being empathy WOULD HAVE CARED about the out come.
"Entropy helps Applejack in the grounds that if she becomes Veritas then she would help save Chance by reforming her. Would that be a correct motivation for her?"
That normally goes against the grain, since apathy is a BIG PART of her personality. Those who win or fail mean nothing to her.
Though there is a reveal soon that would change all that. But it would be a spoiler to tell you. But it would fit PERFECTLY with what you want here. Do you want that spoiler so you know how to fit into your story perfectly? She is the embodiment of heat death, the end of all things.
A friend suggested this:
"It'd probably be the aspect of her representing the end of evil or the end of sin or the like.
Or the end in the sense of the death of the old person and the rebirth of a new one."
Again, a have a perfect reveal that would be PERFECT for this, but it's a spoiler. Do you want me to tell you it via private message?
Again, a have a perfect reveal that would be PERFECT for this, but it's a spoiler. Do you want me to tell you it via private message?
That normally goes against the grain, since apathy is a BIG PART of her personality. Those who win or fail mean nothing to her.
I had gotten the idea that she did care, in her own weird way, about her children when in was mentioned by Havoc that she did something for the Fluttershy in the universe where she reformed Discord, because she reformed Discord. So, that's why I thought she would at least "care" somewhat about it.
Again, a have a perfect reveal that would be PERFECT for this, but it's a spoiler. Do you want me to tell you it via private message?
No, the Chance story is in the cooler at the moment until I actually have the time to write it down properly, so it's okay.
Just let me know, when you post it in its due time, what part of the story is showing me this thing that makes it fit (unless its something that I would totally notice on my own).
I had gotten the idea that she did care, in her own weird way, about her children when in was mentioned by Havoc that she did something for the Fluttershy in the universe where she reformed Discord, because she reformed Discord. So, that's why I thought she would at least "care" somewhat about it.
Again, a have a perfect reveal that would be PERFECT for this, but it's a spoiler. Do you want me to tell you it via private message?
No, the Chance story is in the cooler at the moment until I actually have the time to write it down properly, so it's okay.
Just let me know, when you post it in its due time, what part of the story is showing me this thing that makes it fit (unless its something that I would totally notice on my own).