IronwoodAKACleanser's avatar
It is kind of sad that the game gives your so many crossroads that you must choose between. I like both the Greybeards and the Blades. But killing old Paarthy? After all he has done for the Dragonborn? That feels... unhonorable. And a bit pointless, since Delphine's fears of Paarthurnax returning to his old master is nullified when you kill Alduin.

So yeah, Paarthurnax FTW! :heart:
Doku-Sama's avatar
I liked the Blades in Oblivion, but not in Skyrim. It is them who are unhonorable :x
IronwoodAKACleanser's avatar
Yeah, but I still somewhat(want to) lean towards them. Mainly to piss off the Thalmor. ;P

And I do agree with them; dragons are a blight upon Skyrim and should be exterminated. However, Paarthurnax is the sole exception and it would be a shame to kill the probably only good dragon left in Tamriel. :(
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Ah, if it's to piss off the thalmors, then I have to agree :D

I don't think the same, they do not have to be exterminated. It's the same thing as exterminating the wolves just because they eat/kill some humans somewhere. The humans do the same thing, but we do not want to kill them all. So it's a bit unfair for me.
Paarthurnax became good with great efforts (he says it himself), so some of the others dragons could do the same thing.
IronwoodAKACleanser's avatar
I see your point, but comparing dragons to wolves is a bit wrong. Remember, dragons once enslaved mortals and tyrannically ruled the world for centuries. If given the chance, they would surely do so again. And even if they ever won't, they still cause more damage than any other beast, except the daedra, for purposes other than natural needs(like feeding).

My personal hatred for dragons comes from game experience. Every time I feel like not fighting dragons and just doing non-dragon related quests, I fast travel somewhere, whether is be a small town, a cave, a military camp, 90% of the time there is a dragon flying nearby and attacking me or other innocents.

By the Nine, I want these annoying bastards destroyed and buried under the ground! :pissed:
Doku-Sama's avatar
Yeah it's not like dark elves enslaved argonians and would probably do it again if they were given the chance. Not like some mortals wanted to rule the entire world. Not like they cause a lot of damage with their wars too. I do not think their lives are less worthy than "humans". You hate dragons, but that does not give you the right to justify their destruction when they do the same things as "humans". Or just destroy dragons AND "humans", at least it would be less hypocritical. I mean, some dragons attack everybody, but don't you think some other dragons don't do it?
IronwoodAKACleanser's avatar
But... they all do, right? Aside from Paarthurnax(and Odahviing, who is sworn to serve the Dragonborn), all dragons I come near to becomes hostile. Hell, even some lowlife bandits and renegade mages don't always attack on sight. They will warn you to back off first. Dragons seem to think they are above all other beings and will kill without qualm. But that is just how I see it.

Its true that the dunmer enslaved argonians. And that both men and mer has done atrocities in the past(and current time). I'm not saying the mortal races are any better. However, dov and joore are in opposition of eachother. And I will support the joore above the dov. Dont hate me for it. :(
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No, you can't say they all do it. There are some dragons who can't stand this "I'm-the-best-dovah-I'll-rule-everything" thing. Paarthurnax, yes, but Durneevhir too. He's more interested by the knowledge than anything else. And before the Dovahkiin killed Alduin, all the dragons were kind of forced to follow him. Now they're free, and as Paarthy said it, some of them will probably follow the "Voice" or maybe just do whatever the fuck they want asides killing people for the fun (personally, if they kill people just for eating them 'cause they're hungry, I'm ok with that).
And I do not talk about Odah, 'cause when the dragonborn will die, he will do whatever the fuck he wants to (aka probably trying to rule something somewhere).
So well, I don't think we can say the dovah are all the same. They are "greedy" by nature but they can change that if they want. I won't choose a side, I just keep killing all the dov/joore who needs to get killed.

Hate? I don't hate you <_< ?? We're arguing, that's all.
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