Zidneya's avatar

you know what? there's a difference between "beginning of life" and "fully developed"... a HUGE difference. 

yeah I know that's what I just said to you.


Even I and probably you too arent "fully developed" yet as the brain is not completely developed until 24/25 years old.

Nooo?!! You think?!!!


So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to kill it?

Yeah right because the brain is the only organ that isn't fully developed, you know limbic circulatory system pulmonary, and the rest are they just fine. What part of process you don't fully understand is not only the brain everything is in the process of develop therefor just because is in that process it doesn't count as a fully alive entity so I wouldn't use the term "kill" while we stop that process. So allow me to rephrase your question.

So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to stop its growth?

And my answer is, "If the female who is brewing that entity doesn't want it" well YES!!(I'm pro choice I thought I had left that clear, so apparently you can't even understand the obvious, well you weren't kidding when you said your brain isn't fully developed)


I was questioning you because I suspect you're just saying "embryo, not human baby" in order to make abortion sound okay

Abortion is okay.


which isnt a valid argument.

Then why does the development of the fetus is the most significant fact that determines the morality of abortion?


I'm pro-choice to an extent by the way.

Theres no such thing your'e either pro-choice because you fully back up that choice or don't.

If a couple had consensual sex, didnt properly use protection and can manage it financially, they keep it.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! What ah! hahahaha! You think that the only think that people worries when they think about parenthood is the money? Also didn't properly use protection? You do realize that condoms aren't always sure right? 


It wouldnt be "people controlling them"

You just said they if they can financially manage it they keep it and that's not controlling it? If they can manage it yeah right. I can imagine it: You two can afford a baby now have it, But But… I have dreams and a demanding career and having a kid is very life consuming, and I don't want to have a baby right know. Deciding for other people the criteria of how they should keep or abort a fetus isn't controlling them pal?


it would be them being irresponsible and forgetting that sex is not only for fun in the end.

My sexual encounters purpose are what I and my partner decide. And if you don't like it too bad.


I'm okay with sex for fun but for fuck's sake no more "oh noes we had sex and a fetus formed, what the fuck??? remove it!!"

If you don't have the guts to back up your sexual relationships and you aren't willing to take the hard choices that's up to you. Me on the other hand made my choice when I say "remove it" a long time ago.

61021376's avatar
*Noo you didnt, you literally told me that life doesnt begin at conception
*Yes I think so
*yes, and the skeleton too which isnt fully complete until puberty... as a whole, a newborn is still very fragile and overall completely dependent on its parents.:lmao:
Well your brain obviously isnt fully developed either because you didnt get that I understood you were pro-choice.
*:iconmindblownplz:I know it's fucking acceptable, I said "sound" because just using vocabulary to eliminate any emotional appeal toward a fetus does not make a good point.
*because at some point it shouldnt be possible anymore to consider a fetus as a disposable clump of cells.
*^
*well if you abort while being fully able to support it meh fuck it, do what you want, it's not like I care.:lol: and I think there's that "tomorrow's pill" if the condom breaks?
*Okay, it would be controlling people who fail to control themselves!
*It's not me not liking it it's how nature originally meant it.:B
Zidneya's avatar

Noo you didnt, you literally told me that life doesnt begin at conception

No what I said is that the process of creating life begins at conception. And the whole life begins at conception it's silly. You don't call a cake a cake right after you add the yeast you wait a couple of minutes in the oven to do that declaration. 


Yes I think so

Ehh yeah yes I did…..I thought I left that clear.


yes, and the skeleton too which isnt fully complete until puberty... as a whole, a newborn is still very fragile and overall completely dependent on its parents.

I'm pretty sure that I could take care of both a child and a newborn until puberty without being his parents and their skeletons would be just fine(unless he had some bone disease).


Well your brain obviously isnt fully developed either because you didnt get that I understood you were pro-choice.

Don't tell that to me you are the one who asked me: So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to stop it's growth? 


And you actually expected me to say no?…. So excuse me if I have second thoughts of wether you did or din't understand my posture, because it's very logic that my answer was gonna be a yes.


I know it's fucking acceptable

Then why did you asked?...


I said "sound" because just using vocabulary to eliminate any emotional appeal toward a fetus does not make a good point.

Abortion is a good option. It allows you to continue with your plans without taking care of another human being just because you had a fling therefore it actually is a good point. You don't need to sugar coat an abortion.


because at some point it shouldnt be possible anymore to consider a fetus as a disposable clump of cells.

Yeah I know that's why I mentioned the development of the fetus is the most significant fact that determines the morality of abortion to what you said and I quote: which isnt a valid argument. But it is the most valid argument in the whole considering a fetus a disposable clump of cells topic there is.


well if you abort while being fully able to support it meh fuck it, do what you want, it's not like I care.

Don't tell that to me you are the one who contacted me in the first place, you are the one who started disagreeing with me about life begins at conception, you are the one who mention that the most relevant element during parenthood is financial disponibility. But if you don't care about any of that then you shouldn't start talking in the first place pal.


and I think there's that "tomorrow's pill" if the condom breaks?

Really? What happened with: and can manage it financially, they keep it.?


Okay, it would be controlling people who fail to control themselves!

Yeah thats what I just told you.


It's not me not liking it it's how nature originally meant it.

Nature also originally meant to create Ebola, Aids, and plenty genetic diseases if we weren't gonna object natures decision's then we wouldn't have invented medicine in the first place.