mack901's avatar
1.you obviously don't know your comics  or dc movies  super girl beat the shit out darkseid for beating down superman  and sent his ass fly through a boom toom.
2.so what goku can't lift a city block but he hits hard enough to rip the earth in half strength and a fight is not measured by muscle alone let me give you an  example just beacuse I can't lift 250 pounds dosent mean I couldn't wip a body builders ass in a fight.
3. Superman is faster than goku at flight speed not fight speed in a race to the sun back superman would but when you measure fight speed goku is way faster he moves at speed thatis instant wich super man dose not in a fight.
4. enough with the gay jokes cause only one butt hurt is you.
Ghostofsparta757's avatar
1.People can be slower than Flash but still way faster than Goku. The Flash is just in a league far beyond any of them. 
2. Supergirl barely held her own. Darkseid had hardly a scratch on him.  And he took them both on.
3.Goku doesn't have meteor level punches. Don't make stuff up.
4.Superman's reaction time allows him to see the world frozen in place. He has more than enough speed to take on Goku.
mack901's avatar
yes goku does have meteor punches one of his moves is called the meteor smash ,goku  can rip throught the earth easily and he  literlay caught an island with his bare hands at base form goku is faster than the flash and could kill him with one punch flash can be still seen  when in a fight, when goku fights your eyes can not see his movements and flash barely out ran darksied omega beam wich would be easy for goku to dodge and stop comparing flash to goku , goku would one punch kill him
super man would loose to goku period goku has magical abilities that would burn superman up and superman only has flight speed not fight speed and how the heck do you think go goku sees the world when hes moving faster than the speed of light 
Ghostofsparta757's avatar
1.Flash never uses his full speed in cities and so does Superman or else the sonic booms will annihilate everything in their path. The Flash and Superman's powers are not static. They only use enough power needed to do the job. It's called holding back. The Flash has outraced instantaneous teleportation across a galaxy before. Goku is pretty much a statue. 
2.Meteor smash is just a name son. He has no planet splitting punches. He has no feats to back that up. Again quit making stuff up.
3.When did he caught an island with his bare hands? You are making stuff up again.
4.The omega beam is just that fast. If Flash could barely dodge it, Goku will get hit.
5.Goku has no light speed movement or reaction. He has no feats to back that up. In Battle of the Gods while Beerus and Goku were showing off their speed water droplets still moving in slowmotion alongside them. If they were at light speed, the water would have been frozen in place.  In the same feat, Superman and Flash were having a mild conversation while a waiter spilling coffer were frozen in place.
6.Goku is not magical. That was clearly explained in the Buu saga by Gohan. Ki is physical energy.

Your knowledge on Goku is pretty limited and most of your points are just fanfiction. Flight speed and reaction time is pretty different but not by much. If all Superman or Flash could do was move fast, they would crash into everything in their path.  Superman can bench press a planet and has destroy an alternate Earth punching Earth-2 Superman while at the same time distorting space. He has tanked a blast similar to 50 keppler supernova while being hit by red sun radiation.  Goku is outmatched in every category.
mack901's avatar
1. flash got burn out dodging the omega wich would be easy for goku to dodge goku has race through the  earth and cause tittle waves and earthquakes like when he charges his energy   and super man and the flash have used their full abilities and were beaten on serveral ocaisions and goku never fights in a city  or any z fighter because they know even if they use minimum strength the city would be destroyed in a warm up fight  when z fighters like goku throw punches in the air they literlay cause earthquakes  and stop comparing goku to the flash goku even raditz could instantly kill flash  and another way goku could destroy flash his blow him away by charging up or scream just like ssj 3 goten did to to rip through dimesions that technique would also work on super man bussin his ear drums easily with a mega scream.
 
2.its called the meteor smash for a reason and goku dosent  even have to use this move to deliver meteor crushing punches when goku fights or is  flying he has energy sparking from his body just like a meteorite soaring through space faster than the speed of light and when goku flys at top speed he cause earthquakes and tidal waves just like a crashing meteor watch dbz see it for your self sucka www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMcFF6… and watch the goku and berus fight when they fight on look how they rip through the ground like it was butter if he wanted to rip the earth in half all he have to do is fly through it is just that simple

3.here is a link to  when goku caught the island  and split it in half with one punch watch dbz sucka www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxRZm-…

4. Goku would walk through omega beam like it was rain or deflect it with one smack at base form or instantly floor darksied with one punch knocking him on his ass.

5. they were holding back  do realy think they was  going full speed when goku holds back in a fight your eyes can barely see him when super man and the flash holds back you can see there every move watch dbz sucka www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5JNzk…

6. Gohan had mystic power a mystic is one who posses magic spirrit power and kia is the spiritual energy in all living things a and kia comes from the word chi which is chianise magical spirit power ,magic is the english term for chi or kia which  mean supernatrual power wich is just another word for  spiritual power so kia comes from spirit wich is spiritual power while physical strength comes from kenetic energy which means the physical ability force an person or object has generated from physical ability so let me break it down to you goku gets his power from his soulspirit or from the soulspirit of others and superman gets his power from his dna thats the litral  function of supermans dna super mans dna produce physical kenetic energy on a super lvl while goku gains his powers from the strength of his inner being soul spirrit goku  heccan litterlay summon a dragon from his fist, transform in an instant just as shazam except shazam gets is power from god spirrits while goku dosent have too cause he already has a powerful spirrit and super kenetic physical ability that is greater than shazam false gods and easily he would destroy super man super would be badly hurt by goku magicl punches superman  better to go rest in the sun so he can gain an immunity to magic for a short period of but that wouldnt work either goku can asborb the suns energy faster than super could 


naw my knolegde of goku is pretty accurate and your just a butt hurt dc fan.
Ghostofsparta757's avatar
1. The Flash being burned just shows how fast those beams were.  Goku isn't dodging anything. The Flash and Superman are able to see the world stand still while mildly having a chat.  Goku couldn't even do that in Battle of the Gods. The Flash and Superman getting beaten just goes to show how powerful those enemies are. Superman has been punching dimensions apart before. It's hardly impressive.  Goku only creates Earthquakes while powering up. He never created huge Earthquakes with punches. While fighting an alternate Superman, Superman shattered Earth-2 and distorted space time just by hitting him repeatedly in Infinite Crisis. I don't know about Superman but the Flash alone will annihilate the entire DBZ universe. 

2. Meteor Smash is the name in video game only where he just delivers a barrage of punches and kicks. I don't see any continent or cities being leveled with a supposed single planet splitting punch. Again, don't make stuff up.

3.He slowed it down, he couldn't completely halt. I knew you would bring that up.

4. Funny joke. Goku touches the Omega Beam at the right power level and Goku disappears.

5. Superman and Flash only uses enough power to do the job. Their control over their strength and speed is a testament of their fine control. Superman is able to bench press the Earth and shatter planets yet can perform delicate surgery. Flash can outrace instantaneous teleportation across a Galaxy and back. The heroes only need to use the right amount of power to get the job done. They don't show off or overkill son. There is a reason by Superman doesn't use his full speed. Sonic booms tend to level cities and he doesn't have a dues ex magic balls to resurrect people.

6. Ki is physical energy. It comes from the body and mind. There is no magic to it.  It doesn't matter where the power comes from, what matters is what you do with it. Superman can do more with his solar powers than Goku with his ki. It's just that simple. 


Your knowledge of Goku is pretty limited to the point of bringing up non-canon movies like Lord slug and Video games. At this stage all you are able to say is just fanboy biased. Try again son.
mack901's avatar
1. not really flash and superman would die horriblely espciallly the flash one hit to flash and every bone in his body is broke   in battle of gods  goku did cause earthquakes while he was punching you just in denial.

2.Now your really just a butt hurt dc comic head do you see the creators and impacts they leave in the earth whenthe hit a super being and senf him flying just picture if they hit earth at full force broly smash vegeta into a side of a moutain and mad a giant creator and he was just plAYING.

3.you must be blind pulll your head out your ass he caught it and split it in half and your damn right i brought it up cause you comic heads dont know what your talkn about.

4. man if darksied ever step to goku he would die , darksied dosent want no problems with goku the omega beam is not powerfull  enough for goku and goku would just look at him and smile and be like is that all you got then goku would beat the skirt off of darksied .

5.in space every thing ways zero and so what he can lift tilla tons goku would still capital F him up and not really super man and flash took some L's from some pretty weak villians thats true shit that goku could kill easily.

6. Man you just went fully blind learn  your definitions certain , some words mean the same thing , kia is magic and super man would be doomed if he ever tried goku or anyone who uses kia energy magic.


Look believe your idology on this but i clearly made nothing up go watch your dc but me im a avit fan of dbz and dc and im perfectly ok with disagreeing with you forever sucka and you dont get say what is cannon you dont own or write or make any of the dbz realm did it ever occur to you that movies and animations are more complete than the actual books they cost way more time and money to make they give you a more clearer  idea of how the characters actualy are and not how you think they are in comics so if you dont own any thing or didnt make any contribution to make dbz materiall you dont get to decide what is cannon everything in dbz realm dosent have to come from a book like you dc comic heads think all the  materiel  has to come from is its original creator fool or his or hers signature  signing off on materiel to be published.
Ghostofsparta757's avatar
1. Can't hurt what you can't hit. Goku is a statue to the Flash. If he wanted to he could turn Goku into a living statue using the speed force or phase his hands into Goku's chest and pull out his heart without leaving any damage. Superman can take Goku's punches with not much discomfort. Causing Earthquakes is not a big deal.

2. Causing a crator not big enough to be seen outside the Earth is not planet splitting. Also, non-canon source.

3. He didn't caught it. It pushed against him and he halted it. He didn't pick it up. Are you blind son?

4. Darkseid will snap Goku in two and single handedly slaughter the Z-fighters. That is if they are even worthy enough to even get his attention.

5. If those villains can hurt either of them, they will break Goku. Superman benched pressed the weight of the Earth underground exposed no sunlight for 5 days just to get one drop of sweat. Let that sink in.

6. Ki is not magic. It was made clear in the buu saga. Ki in dbz is based on real life ki but exaggerated. It comes from body and mind. In other words the stronger you and your will are, the stronger your ki. Not magic

Canon is what the owner decides is canon.  Whoever owns the source decides what goes. Movies from both DC and DBZ are non-canon and are only there for marketing purposes.  Aside from Battle of Gods, all DBZ movies don't fit into the timeline of dbz. They never happened.
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GuiltyFlare's avatar
1. darkside never fought supergirl, and since you mentioned movies, you should know that movies and cartoon are not canon.
proving you dont know crap.

2."so what goku can't lift a city block but he hits hard enough to rip the earth in half strength"
dude goku cant even do that, barely lifting a city block is no where close to riping a planet anything.

3.goku's instent tranmission is not speed, its an ability that has limits but superman has proven to move faster than goku

4.no since your failling so hard your butt is truely hurting
mack901's avatar
1.the the movie were super girl beat the i shit out darkseid was in comic form first dummie know your shit.
2.Goku has rip through the earth just trading combos for combos with super beings such as majin vegeta, bills and so on and so on.
3.goku has a instant transmission technique but also so has instant speed in a fight since the freeza saga he litterlay moves so fast you caint see him.
4. You clearly got your head up your ass or blind as a bat cause you never watch dbz closely or dc movies or read the comics.
GuiltyFlare's avatar
1. did not happen in the comic ether
2.and nether of them has actualy riped the earth
3. instant transmission is not speed it an ability like nightcrawler's powers,
when they used was after image.
4. sorry but i am kicking your ass and you have nothing to stop darkside from killing or mindfucking goku with ez.
mack901's avatar
No your kicking your own ass cause I got proof were you don't have any evidence to prove me false every thing I told you can find it and see it for yourself Im only wrong in your eyes because you got your head up your ass and your turning a blind eye to the things I say in battle of gods goku and. bills was ripping through earth aka knocking each other through the ground to a deep level in the earth crust and kept fighting underground cutting through the earth crust like it was butter and super girl did kick darkseids ass through a boom toom in super/batman apocalypse in the comic version and in the movie know your stuff son.
GuiltyFlare's avatar
i watched the movie and bills were not ripping the earth anymore than anyother time in dbz.
in the comic darkside kidnaapps supergirl and mindfucked her with black kryptonite and had superman, batman and the rest of the justice league to save her, and supergirl was not kicking darkside anything, you are confusing the cartoon and comic.
so in the end you still fail
mack901's avatar
Nope I don't fail and in the comic batman did say super girl is slightly stronger than super man and she did kick his ass after the rescue when darkseid returned to earth and beat down superman to get revenge for saving super girl in the comic and you comic heads really need to stop saying the dc production animations don't count cause thry cost more time more money and more efffort to make so they are canon and they give a more realistic way if seeing the charactes and cause there put out by the same company and goku and bills did have rumble underground it wasnt for whole movie but when goku fought bills on earth they did fight underground you may have to re watch the dbz battle of gods
GuiltyFlare's avatar
Sorry but in the comic batman never said that Supergirl is stronger than superman or that she fought aginst darkside as she was mentally controlled by darkside.. The reason the cartoons and movies don't count is because they are all made and produced by Warner Brothers as they have the rights to tv shows and movies where the comics are made and controlled by dc comics.
Yes goku and bills had a fight underground but was never doing anymore damage to the planet than any other time in dbz.
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