(1) forcing churches to rent out sanctions when the gays aren't religious to begin with (2) silencing anyone who disagrees with them by calling them "homophobes" & "bigots" (3) forcing privately-owned cake business owners to move their business (4) vandalizing churches (5) attacking those with traditional-family values
1.) Churches aren't being forced to have anything to do with it. Heck, I heard someone who had just been gay married say, "Jeez, when they say 'go get married in the courthouse', that's exactly what they mean." Nothing to do with churches whatsoever... -_-
2.) Homophobia is literally an irrational terror of gays. That's the most stupid thing I've ever heard of. That's like being irrationally terrified of other HUMANS. In fact, that's what it is, in essence. But half of these people are like, "Keep him away from my neighborhood or he'll turn 'em into sinners!" and whatnot. Sorry, Aunt Gertie, but you're the one in need of mental help, not the homosexuals down the street.
3.) ...Cake? Am I missing something here...?
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..Well, anyways.... The US has laws against segregation and discrimination, which is in essence what that is.
4.) "Hey, Jimmy. I'm homosexual, so I'm gonna throw eggs at a church!" That one is the worst argument I've heard yet.
5.) Never mind. This one is the worst. Please explain to me your "family values".
1. The church is never forced to do anything. Selfish fucks don't even have to pay taxes. If a church allows a marriage of two of the same sex in their church, they are for it.
2. Homophobia is about people who speak against gays, justifying hate with religion.
3. If you are discriminatory, your business can be shut down/moved.
Like thats anything compared to what gay people have gone through. This shit hardly even happens anyways you know, and using this as your back up to take away gay rights is sickening.
2) Nobody is silencing them. If being called a name is enough to make a person feel silenced then they don't have much faith in their own belief.
3) wat
4) Who is doing this?
5) People who attack others shouldn't be taken serious anyway. We're all individuals with our own set of values and morals and we all have to accept that our values and morals differ so it's pointless to argue.
1. Marriage is defined between a man and a woman. (Read a damn dictionary if you don't believe me) 2. Yes you are! You calling anyone who disagrees with you a "homophobe" or "bigot". You are bullying them for having a different opinion! That IS a form of silencing! 3. Case & point! 4. Radical homosexual organizations, like No H8 & Bash Back 5. Reality check: I don't have accept anyone's morals, values, etc. if I don't want to. What's next? You're gonna force me to accept smoking crack as "healthy" or "normal"? How twisted of you. Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen. It's MY belief & MY moral. If you have a problem with that, then it is YOUR problem.
1) Your first point was that gay marriage would force churches to rent out their space for the gay marriage. My point was that not all marriages need to occur in a church.
2) Well actually not everybody who approves of gay marriages thinks those opposed are such. Many people believe that everybody has the right to their opinion and that having a differing opinion doesn't necessarily make them a bigot or the like. It's not even bullying. People who do see those people as homophobes or bigots are simply voicing their opinion on the person just like how people will call people supporting gay marriage 'fags' or 'libfags' or 'hippies'. In fact, people opposed to gay marriage have a much longer and notorious history of truly bullying and even physically harming or killing people over having a differing view. So for a person to call others homophobe or bigots is hardly bullying. If a person truly feels bullied by names given to them by a person who doesn't agree, then that person mustn't have much faith in themselves for a person might call me a muggle as an insult but I don't feel bullied. Why? I don't believe in that, for one, and secondly that's their opinion and I obviously dont agree and so their name calling means little to nothing. If a person is insulting by being called a homophobe or bigot, then they must feel they maybe, just like how somebody could call me a sinner but I'd only be insulted if I believed in such things.
3) No because you didn't provide an explanation. It seems you were making up random crap and when called out, you had no valid argument so you cried "case and point!" to make it seem so when it's not so.
4) That's child's play compared to the things the religious and religious orgs have done to followers and homosexuals. Although it's not right and is certainly not the way to go, take into consideration the violance and harassment and destruction caused by the religious and people opposed to homosexuals.
5) Then at least tolerate it. I tolerate the religious peoples morals and guidelines mostly because they don't affect me. It's childish and narrow minded to take such strides to control other peoples lives because their morals and values are different.
Whoa, who said anything about smoking crack? You're assuming that because I support homosexuals that I support drug abuse? That's quite a stretch and quite inaccurate. I should say that because you believe homosexuality is wrong, that you also believe that woman's suffrage is also wrong. (especially considering your bible *does* cover it)
I can and will say, it's MY belief and MY Moral to accept homosexuality. IF you have a problem with then, then it's YOUR problem. (and so please stop trying to make it everybody elses)
1. They have already done it in most of Europe & Canada (forcing churches to submit). If you don't believe me, look it up! Second, if marriage doesn't need to occur in a church, why the hell do so many gays go to them when they know the churches disapprove of the lifestyle choice? Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't marriage suppose to be a RELIGIOUS thing?
2. " People who do see those people as homophobes or bigots are simply voicing their opinion on the person just like how people will call people supporting gay marriage 'fags' or 'libfags' or 'hippies'." In other words, they ARE trying to silence those who disagree with them. Thanks for proving my point. Here's the way I see it: If you have to resort to namecalling, you have already lost the argument. (BTW you do realize there are people who disagree with SSM & have no problems with homosexuals, right?) BTW If someone is a homosexual, I'm calling them a HOMOSEXUAL. "fag" is just another term for it.
3. Actually I'm not. There are reports about those organizations VIOLENTLY attacking those who disagree with them. Starting from churches to Christians holding a sign saying "Repent". You want me to provide you links to prove my point?
4. Yeah, it amazes me how quick homosexuals are to assault christians for singing gospels & bashing those who believe in traditional values while still being OK with Muslims killing homosexuals. (And this is coming from an Athiest!)
Face it gayride, you're just mad because some people don't approve of your lifestyle for personal & obvious reasons, & you can't accept the fact you can't change peoples' mind about it, so you redirect your self-loathing on Christians, as Hitler did with the Jews. It's kind of sad really. (BTW I'm an Athiest, & I think homosexuality is SICK. Let's not forget it was a HOMOSEXUAL man who brought AIDS into our world)
5. I'm gonna be honest here, I've seen more intolerance coming from the GLBTetc. crowd than the Christians. I have dealt with homosexuals, they are UNSTABLE. I've actually found Christians easier to get along with than GLBTetcs because they are less annoying & dramatic about things. GLBTetcs are like this: You disagree with SSM---bigot. You disagree with homosexuality---bigot. You disagree with them in this---bigot. You disagree with them in this---bigot. Talk about having an inferiority complex. It seems like all they do is obsess over their damn lifestyles, & bash those who don't approve of it. (Which proves they are silencing those who disagree with them)
1) Then go protest there. America would not allow churches to host gay marriages if they didn't want to as it would be against that religion and the U.S. has the freedom of religion. You're worried about something that can't happen.
2)Yes, exactly, both parties are trying to silence the others. It's not just the people against homosexuals who are being silenced.
You remember that when you continue to call people baby killers or any other names.
Fag is a derogatory term meant to incite negative emotion in the person being called such. So no.
3) Yet you have no problem with religious people and people against homosexuality physically harming individuals and even killing them. You're so torn over vandalism but you seem to forget that the people against homosexuality MURDER.
4) I've never heard a homosexual attacking somebody for singing in church. For that specific action. I've also never heard of a homosexual being okay with muslims killing homosexuals.
Oh, gayride? According to what you said in your second point, you have already lost the argument when you name call. Also according to you, you are trying to bully and silence me for having a different opinion.
Even though I'm a hetero female.
Making assumptions, why am I not surprised?
I've accepted that not everybody is going to agree with me, that's why, unlike yourself, I don't go around ranting and raving about my opinions on every stamp I find that I don't agree with. You march around to stamps you don't agree with and parade your opinions as though they are facts and berate those who don't agree with you because you, in fact, are made that you can't change peoples mind about it.
I have no self loathing. I loathe only the religious and the people who are against something that has no bearing on their lives.
You should cite your source on that claim. Last I learned, humans do not simply develop a disease out of thin-air.
5) Oh so if you compared the documented occurances of hate crimes from both parties, the LGBT community would come out on top?
Considering the fact they LGBT community has been far more oppressed and far longer, it's only natural and expected that they'd want to bring attention to their plight and try to fight for equality. If religious people were oppressed, they would do the same.
They obsess because they are oppressed. They desire equality and the same freedom as heteros. When they try to fight back and bring light to their problem, people like you insult them with accusations of being obsessed then act surprised when they strike back. Religous people and people against the LGBT community have unrealistic expectations which I suspect is because they want the LGBT to just be quiet so they can more easily be oppressed.
If the LGBT population laid low and did as the religious and antis wanted, it would be counter productive to attaining equal rights. Your logic dictates that african-americans and women too were obsessed and wrong for bashing those opposed to black and female suffrage and that they were trying to silence the opposers.
1. Apparently I don't need to. It's already happening here in New FAG City (aka NYC) & CaliFORICATION (aka California, home of the fruits & the nuts), here is the USA. 2. So you finally admit to silencing those you disagree with. It's about damn time! 3. I never said anything about harming homosexuals. I just don't approve of the lifestyle. I think it's unnatural & unhealthy. Actually I'm AGAINST homosexuality for the obvious reason----it's AGAINST the laws of nature---Man + woman = baby...almost like they were meant for each other. 4. Look up the group called Bash Back, they are gay radicals. NO H8 did the same thing in Seattle with a group of Christians holding a sign saying "Repent or else" 5. LOL So gays are the "most oppressed group"? tell me, when were you ever prevented for voting, being traded as slaves, prevented from sitting on buses, & not being allowed to get an education?
The fact you compare who someone bangs in the bedroom (a choice) to a skin color (not a choice) is beyond racist & sick.
1) Then go protest there and see just how far you get. Hint: You won't get far. Shouting your opinions like an angry child doesn't work.
2) Your kind is the kind that silences more than any other person. You guilt and shame because you don't like what we have to say and you want us to stop saying it so you harm us with words and physical violence.
3) The law of nature, huh? Even though wild animals engage in homosexual acts. Yeah, go educate yourself on nature. Dying your hair and getting implants is against nature but I don't see you throwing a fit about that.
4) And you go look up all of the hate crimes christians and people against homosexuality and abortion have committed. I recently read a story about a girl who attacked a woman after her procedure as the woman was crossing the parking lot.
5) There you go putting words in my mouth again. 9_9 They're not the most oppressed but they're oppressed than the religious and your own kind. Quit making shit up, kiddo, it makes it obvious how desperate you are.
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(1) forcing churches to rent out sanctions when the gays aren't religious to begin with
(2) silencing anyone who disagrees with them by calling them "homophobes" & "bigots"
(3) forcing privately-owned cake business owners to move their business
(4) vandalizing churches
(5) attacking those with traditional-family values
shall I continue?
Devious Comments
Thanks for proving my point!
2. Yes you are! You calling anyone who disagrees with you a "homophobe" or "bigot". You are bullying them for having a different opinion! That IS a form of silencing!
3. Case & point!
4. Radical homosexual organizations, like No H8 & Bash Back
5. Reality check: I don't have accept anyone's morals, values, etc. if I don't want to. What's next? You're gonna force me to accept smoking crack as "healthy" or "normal"? How twisted of you. Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen. It's MY belief & MY moral. If you have a problem with that, then it is YOUR problem.
Grow a brain
2. " People who do see those people as homophobes or bigots are simply voicing their opinion on the person just like how people will call people supporting gay marriage 'fags' or 'libfags' or 'hippies'."
In other words, they ARE trying to silence those who disagree with them. Thanks for proving my point. Here's the way I see it: If you have to resort to namecalling, you have already lost the argument. (BTW you do realize there are people who disagree with SSM & have no problems with homosexuals, right?) BTW If someone is a homosexual, I'm calling them a HOMOSEXUAL. "fag" is just another term for it.
3. Actually I'm not. There are reports about those organizations VIOLENTLY attacking those who disagree with them. Starting from churches to Christians holding a sign saying "Repent". You want me to provide you links to prove my point?
4. Yeah, it amazes me how quick homosexuals are to assault christians for singing gospels & bashing those who believe in traditional values while still being OK with Muslims killing homosexuals. (And this is coming from an Athiest!)
Face it gayride, you're just mad because some people don't approve of your lifestyle for personal & obvious reasons, & you can't accept the fact you can't change peoples' mind about it, so you redirect your self-loathing on Christians, as Hitler did with the Jews. It's kind of sad really. (BTW I'm an Athiest, & I think homosexuality is SICK. Let's not forget it was a HOMOSEXUAL man who brought AIDS into our world)
5. I'm gonna be honest here, I've seen more intolerance coming from the GLBTetc. crowd than the Christians. I have dealt with homosexuals, they are UNSTABLE. I've actually found Christians easier to get along with than GLBTetcs because they are less annoying & dramatic about things. GLBTetcs are like this: You disagree with SSM---bigot. You disagree with homosexuality---bigot. You disagree with them in this---bigot. You disagree with them in this---bigot. Talk about having an inferiority complex. It seems like all they do is obsess over their damn lifestyles, & bash those who don't approve of it. (Which proves they are silencing those who disagree with them)
Even though I'm a hetero female.
You march around to stamps you don't agree with and parade your opinions as though they are facts and berate those who don't agree with you because you, in fact, are made that you can't change peoples mind about it.
You should cite your source on that claim. Last I learned, humans do not simply develop a disease out of thin-air.
When they try to fight back and bring light to their problem, people like you insult them with accusations of being obsessed then act surprised when they strike back. Religous people and people against the LGBT community have unrealistic expectations which I suspect is because they want the LGBT to just be quiet so they can more easily be oppressed.
Your logic dictates that african-americans and women too were obsessed and wrong for bashing those opposed to black and female suffrage and that they were trying to silence the opposers.
2. So you finally admit to silencing those you disagree with. It's about damn time!
3. I never said anything about harming homosexuals. I just don't approve of the lifestyle. I think it's unnatural & unhealthy. Actually I'm AGAINST homosexuality for the obvious reason----it's AGAINST the laws of nature---Man + woman = baby...almost like they were meant for each other.
4. Look up the group called Bash Back, they are gay radicals. NO H8 did the same thing in Seattle with a group of Christians holding a sign saying "Repent or else"
5. LOL So gays are the "most oppressed group"? tell me, when were you ever prevented for voting, being traded as slaves, prevented from sitting on buses, & not being allowed to get an education?
The fact you compare who someone bangs in the bedroom (a choice) to a skin color (not a choice) is beyond racist & sick.