Comment on Couples - poses chart by AonikaArt
Its quite striking to see a work titled 'couples' that portrays the same, Barbie-doll perfect, hetero couple 10 times. More so, perhaps, given that this was designated as a pose reference for other artists who want to draw couples. Looking down this page you can see lots of people are using it, mostly developing artists, all attempting to create some variation of this beautiful couple.
Its not that there is any problem with them, they are exactly what the mainstream media imagines a couple to be. Like you said - nothing wrong with that.
But what about all the couples that aren't on this page? Ones that are chubby, or gay, or old. Is picturing love in exactly the same way every time is really a good idea?
Its not that there is any problem with them, they are exactly what the mainstream media imagines a couple to be. Like you said - nothing wrong with that.
But what about all the couples that aren't on this page? Ones that are chubby, or gay, or old. Is picturing love in exactly the same way every time is really a good idea?
Oh no, generic Heterosexual couple. How triggering, call the SJWs!
I believe its just a pose study made to exercise the artist's posing ability; not meant to be interpreted in any deeper way.
Though yes, I can see why using the same body type over and over again would be dull and maybe even offensive to some, but this is also used as a reference study, so that whomever is using this may merely have a guide for poses rather than a direct outline, so that if an artist wishes for people with a different build or sex, they can draw them themselves using the reference as a guide, for art is interpretive, and people can take and leave what they wish from the art.
And no, love is never the same for everyone, but as for whether it is a "good idea"...? Well I think love is also interpretive, and as long as it exists, who cares about what its classified as? Gay love, Strait love, Love is simply Love, regardless class, identity, or gender.
(also I'm not a fan of the term "hetero" as a descriptive. I feel like thats the equivalent to saying "homo" as a rude name, and I just feel like things like that are offensive no matter what sexual spectrum you are on.)
Though yes, I can see why using the same body type over and over again would be dull and maybe even offensive to some, but this is also used as a reference study, so that whomever is using this may merely have a guide for poses rather than a direct outline, so that if an artist wishes for people with a different build or sex, they can draw them themselves using the reference as a guide, for art is interpretive, and people can take and leave what they wish from the art.
And no, love is never the same for everyone, but as for whether it is a "good idea"...? Well I think love is also interpretive, and as long as it exists, who cares about what its classified as? Gay love, Strait love, Love is simply Love, regardless class, identity, or gender.
(also I'm not a fan of the term "hetero" as a descriptive. I feel like thats the equivalent to saying "homo" as a rude name, and I just feel like things like that are offensive no matter what sexual spectrum you are on.)
Apologies, I really didnt mean to offend. Do you consider 'hetrosexual' to be acceptable?
I see what you mean, that people could still use this to draw other couples with diffrent charicteristics, but I can't find anyone doing that. Your stuff is good, are you going to break this trend?
I see what you mean, that people could still use this to draw other couples with diffrent charicteristics, but I can't find anyone doing that. Your stuff is good, are you going to break this trend?
Thats fine with me~
Me? You mean you want me to draw people with different body types? Hmm, yeah. I think I could see myself doing that. It would be an interesting exercise. Unfortunately my tablet is on the fritz a the moments, so I'm not really sure when I could get around to it.
Though if you are looking for someone that draws people with different body types and sexual preference regularly, I recommend Tyshea. Nearly all of their characters have unique body types. :3
Me? You mean you want me to draw people with different body types? Hmm, yeah. I think I could see myself doing that. It would be an interesting exercise. Unfortunately my tablet is on the fritz a the moments, so I'm not really sure when I could get around to it.
Though if you are looking for someone that draws people with different body types and sexual preference regularly, I recommend Tyshea. Nearly all of their characters have unique body types. :3
I don't really agree with this. In fact, the media would likely attack this. If there's any chance for "equality" the media will snatch it. They're extremely liberal like that. How you describe the media sounds like the 1950s if anything. It's just a chart bro, I'm sure there's plenty of charts for homo/lesbian couples too.
Ok, but lets look at the biggest films last year; Transformers: Age of Extinction, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies, Guardians of the Galaxy, Maleficent, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and Interstellar.
Only one out of 10 (interstellar) did not give us a central straight relationship. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think most people would rank those couples as being exceptionaly attractive too. Also mostly white.
I don't think many people would discribe that as diverse (or liberal), perhaps you have a talent for picking the right things to watch?
Also why should there be a separate sheet for homo couples?!? Its kind of creepy to try and segragate them out like that.
Only one out of 10 (interstellar) did not give us a central straight relationship. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think most people would rank those couples as being exceptionaly attractive too. Also mostly white.
I don't think many people would discribe that as diverse (or liberal), perhaps you have a talent for picking the right things to watch?
Also why should there be a separate sheet for homo couples?!? Its kind of creepy to try and segragate them out like that.
What does movie couples have to do with this flow chart? And dude, you were just complaining about how there aren't enough gay couples, now you're saying it'd be creepy if there was one for them? Like, how is that creepy? It's a flow chart. Just like this one, but with one specific sex.
The couples represented in moves are representative of couples in the media.
What I was describing as 'creepy' is that you don’t seem to think that other couples belong on this reference page. (its not a flow chart, maybe look up what a flow chart is) Art has the ability to be progressive, to improve our culture. There is nothing good about the idea that we should have separate sheets for heterosexual couples and homosexual couples. It sounds like a nasty echo of "separate but equal".
The point being, all varieties of couple belong on a sheet titled "Couples - poses chart". Filling this sheet with only one, mainstream, couple is poor art.
No, I never said that they don't belong, I was saying that this one is a chart that's aimed at people that are making art involving a heterosexual couple. I also said there's probably some for lesbians/gays. I don't see what's wrong with having multiple pages titled the same, but categorized. It would make finding it easier. Not so much to exclude, but to organize.