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Not going to stretch the debate any further, I'm fine with this, but just have to point out a little conflict between something you said and your earlier motives. ;)
"..but then I found the docks and saw how the argonians (and my future wife, Shahvee, was treated). Then I joined the Imperials so the Argonians would be happier (I could have really cared less about the Dunmer in the city)."

Now isn't that quite "race egoistic" as well..? ;)
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Okay.

Well, my point was that I hate it when nords treat Argonains bad. Argonians are the coolest thing in the game next to dragons and I hate to see them live in such a slum. Now when I said "I could have cared less" maybe I was being a little bit over exaderative. I don't hate the dark elves, in fact I think they are my favorite elf race (atleast as far as personalities go) but my main point was I was more interested in helping my people. Getting the elves through the door could have been just an add on as far as my character was concerned.
Dragonsoul2's avatar
Just an interesting thing I saw for the first time today, that made me think of this little converstaion of ours. (Ah that's what i love about this game, even with almost 500 hrs of gameplay you still find things you haven't seen before!) In a game round where the Stormcloaks haven't won the war yet, I found a redguard farmer that said he is on his way to Windhelm to join the Stormcloaks, and how he thinks Ulfric is right and Skyrim is his home even though he has roots in Cyrodiil. Was fun to see other non-nords joining the ranks, in the actual game. :D
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(It is interesting to find things in the game. Like I said I have restarted my account over and over again and found a new thing every time! XD) Well I said earlier in the conversation humans joined. When I said other races I meant like Argonians and Elves. Same thing happened to me, but with a Dark Elf saying, "I'm going to Solitude to join up with the legion. A united Empire is better for Skyrim." So I geuss it really matters who you would like as a leader, or what kind of army you would want to be a part of.

I like the Empire because I feel like I'm part of the Army or US Marine Corp (sorta) basically saying, I like beng part of a functional and well funded army. Now, i do like the Stormcloaks way of fighting. They fight sorta how the Argonians fight in Black Marsh, using guerilla warfare tactics. So I could respect them for that. I just wish which ever side you chose, you could have the Grey Quarter upgraded and have the Argonians move inside the city...and you get to kill Rolfe. If I thought somebody was racist in the game, it would be him. Rolfe insults me and my race, so I punched him in the face and took his coin purse. :D

So I geuss Stormcloaks aren't that bad, but I'm still not sure about Ulfric himself. Either way, I got bored of doing the war quests and ecided to just steal the Jagged Crown for myself. My guy's a thief who loves his wife, loves dragons and is a great warrior... what can he say?
Dragonsoul2's avatar
Yeah I don't like Rolf either, I fist-fought him as well. :P
Well I like the Stormcloaks just because it's not as much an "organized army" but (as Galmar says) "we're all brothers and sisters here".

I have found that elf farmer saying the same thing about joining the legion, while being a Stormcloak, so it doesn't depend on what side you take.
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Rolf...I Fus Ro Dah'ed his A all the way to Solitude. Lol.

Yeah, the farmers are just random encounters around Skyrim.

What do you play Skyrim on?
pancakeminezz's avatar
Aw, I want it on the PC so bad so i can have mods! Grrr, oh well, I play on Xbox so I got the Dragonborn DLC. Raining down fire on hlepless bandits while riding on my bro Odahviing.
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