Comment on It's Just Mayhem by thelivingmachine02
The problem with the insanity of the symbiotes is explained somewhere. The further down the generational line you get, the less mentally stable they are.
The one Parker got was already a good way down the line. So Venom would of course be even more unstable. Didn't help it bonded with a raging psychopath.
So if you want a not-insane symbiote, you gotta figure out which planet they're actually from, and then find a 1st gen.
The one Parker got was already a good way down the line. So Venom would of course be even more unstable. Didn't help it bonded with a raging psychopath.
So if you want a not-insane symbiote, you gotta figure out which planet they're actually from, and then find a 1st gen.
That just sounds way too contrived, in my mind.
Well, it kinda makes sense, doesn't it? A copy doesn't remain pure the more you copy it, and the symbiotes reproduce asexually. So when one leaves a spore in another host, it's a copy that's becoming a little more damaged than the previous one. So on, so forth.
Well, I say contrived in the sense that, like you said, one would have to search for symbiote-zero in order to not have a psychotic one. I find the concept of the symbiote organism to be interesting enough on it's own, and I wish there was a genuinely good character based on it.
*nod* I see.
And I concur.
And I concur.
They had Toxin and Hybrid for a while. Hybrid being the fusion of four symbiotes with one host and the symbiotes ironically being the calmer half of the merger with the host being a vengeance-driven vigilante whose symbiotes had to pull him back from killing. Toxin was the merger of an honest cop with an infant symbiote descended from Carnage and the cop actually managed to teach the symbiote morals, since it was still an infant and could be easily influenced by its environment. Then Blackheart beat the host to death and dumped him in an alley somewhere --- according to the writer of the current Venom comic book series starring Flash Thompson as the symbiote's new host and a covert operative for the U.S. government --- and made off with the symbiote, which presumably made it crazy as hell. Things got worse after that, and that's about as much as I feel like saying right now.
That aside, I rather like this picture. I always thought April got a bit of a raw deal from Peter and wouldn't have had as much of a complex about replacing May if Peter had shown her a little more love than he did. Girl was a raging pile of daddy issues and identity issues, and treating her like a ticking time bomb just made said issues worse. If Spider-Girl hadn't ended, I would have liked to see a story where April turned out alive after all, and became a better person thanks to the experiences and memories of her future self.
That aside, I rather like this picture. I always thought April got a bit of a raw deal from Peter and wouldn't have had as much of a complex about replacing May if Peter had shown her a little more love than he did. Girl was a raging pile of daddy issues and identity issues, and treating her like a ticking time bomb just made said issues worse. If Spider-Girl hadn't ended, I would have liked to see a story where April turned out alive after all, and became a better person thanks to the experiences and memories of her future self.
Apparently, the symbiote race considered the Venom symbiote to be insane, that's why it was imprisoned in the first place. Carnage got more of the insanity from Kassady (in my head-canon). Toxin got the BS reasoning of "every thousand generations, it comes out psychopathic". In the MC2 universe (which was a while ago - 2000s), they actually have Brock come out and say that the venom symbiote had matured, and doesn't want to kill everyone now.
@ImpulsiveSpidercide - TOTALLY agree with your second paragraph. I was annoyed and a little confused by Peter's reaction to her, but when you think about it - she's part of a plot by Osborn (always a bad thing), she's half-symbiote (Peter's had a bad history with these), she's murderous (not totally her fault, but Pete's still butthurt about Uncle Ben), and she's not exactly subtle about how she wants Mayday out of the picture.
@ImpulsiveSpidercide - TOTALLY agree with your second paragraph. I was annoyed and a little confused by Peter's reaction to her, but when you think about it - she's part of a plot by Osborn (always a bad thing), she's half-symbiote (Peter's had a bad history with these), she's murderous (not totally her fault, but Pete's still butthurt about Uncle Ben), and she's not exactly subtle about how she wants Mayday out of the picture.
About Carnage, that was also Zeb Wells' canon for that symbiote when he did the two miniseries depicting Carnage's return, that basically the symbiote was like a child raised by a psychopath, with the natural implication being that if it had bonded with someone of stronger moral fiber, it would have turned out halfway decent. Also, I remember the MC2 example and that was my favorite handling of the Venom symbiote, that "she," as Mayday called it when they were bonded, had been redeemed by the one host that showed it compassion and love instead of rejecting it out of fear (Peter) or twisting it into a murder weapon (Brock), enough to sacrifice itself protecting Mayday from Hobgoblin.
Also, I do get the logic behind Peter's distrust of April, but at the same time it's him taking his issues out on an relatively innocent person who was just as much a victim of Osborn as he and Gwen and Mary Jane and anyone else Osborn hurt. It's something that just sticks in my craw, partly because I'm not a big fan of people getting mistreated for other people's crimes and partly because I feel Peter himself ought to know better from his own history of being unfairly demonized because of his perceived associations or whatnot.
Also, I do get the logic behind Peter's distrust of April, but at the same time it's him taking his issues out on an relatively innocent person who was just as much a victim of Osborn as he and Gwen and Mary Jane and anyone else Osborn hurt. It's something that just sticks in my craw, partly because I'm not a big fan of people getting mistreated for other people's crimes and partly because I feel Peter himself ought to know better from his own history of being unfairly demonized because of his perceived associations or whatnot.
Wait, no - Venom was the one Parker had, it gave a spore to a psycho who became Carnage. That's the way it was.
Sorry about that error.
Sorry about that error.