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Cool picture of one of my favorite "Wonder Woman" characters.
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That's great! Always nice to hear people have read those stories.
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I hate the Nu-52 Wonder Woman;Bruce Timm's Jl/JLU & the 2009 animated movie haven't done the best job of the representing her & the Amazons.
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The animated movie I felt was actually really good and did a great job representing her. However, it's true that she's been poorly adapted and has never really been adapted "perfectly" so to speak. The problem people face is in her characterization as there's this constant need to "modernize" her or turn her into some kind of aggressive man-hater.
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I hated the treatment of Steve Treavor & Etta Candy in the movie; this scene is cringe worthy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvCKoL…
The main problem with adapting Wonder Woman is making the Amazons Man haters; the George Perez origin gave great reason to distrust men but don't feel to hammer it in.
Gail Simone's The Circle is a much better Radical Feminist Villans than  Stan Berkowitz' Fury;it's sad that Powerpuff Girls "Equal Fights" has a better understanding of Feminism. 
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I never really got the sense in the animated film that the Amazons hated men. It was that they distrusted them. In many ways, they weren't wrong and the film did a good job in expressing the disparities that women still face in the real world. The scene with Etta emphasizes the realities women face within the world of love and sex. They are expected to be passive and weak in order to pump up the man's ego. There have been a great deal of studies which support this. For instance, in the work place men are more likely to find women who have little to no power sexually attractive. In other words, they go for secretaries and interns rather than CEOs and VPs. Another standout scene was the one in which the little girl was excluded from playing with the little boys due to the fact they felt the little girl needed to be playing the damsel in distress. Despite living in an era where Angelina Jolie kicks ass on-screen all the time, there is still the perception that women aren't viable action heroines and are there to be saved or governed by men. We need look no further than The Dark Knight Rises for an example of this. While Anne Hathaway kicked lots of ass as Selina Kyle, she was ultimately a figure meant to be controlled by the actions of men. First she is controlled by Bane and then by Batman. She is ultimately never freed by her own actions but by the help of Batman. We also see how a woman who does have power is punished for it. Miranda is ultimately undone because she is a woman holding all the strings but is killed off due to her inability to play by the rules of men.

I think the animated film dealt with a lot of inequality women face in contemporary society. While it had its faults, it's still the best adaptation of Wonder Woman to date. It didn't quite capture her heart the way the cheesy Lynda Carter series did but it at least portrayed her as someone with agency and intelligence.
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I don't think they're the worst versions of the character(check out Frank Miller & the 2011 pilot) but I think they could've been better. I got into Wonder Woman not because JL/JLU but this video:blip.tv/at4w/at4w-amazons-atta…

Christopher Nolan is not known for his female characters.
I'm dreading the Live Action movie b/c of WB's record especially with "Man Of Steel." I got hope they get people who get her & have done their homework(George Perez Orgin/Gail Simone's awesomeness).

P.S. My 3 favorite Catwomen are: Eartha Kitt(she enjoyed playing the villain & it shows in her performances, Michelle Pfeiffer(Not really faithfuil to comic book character but still pretty awesome), & Adrienne Barbeau(love Batman The Animated Series)
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The 2011 pilot wasn't even that bad. It could have been much worse. The thing people forget is that it was a pilot and pilots are often very different from the actual content of the show. I still applaud and approve of the casting of the amazing Tracie Thoms as Etta Candy.

Wonder Woman's live action film seems like it's a ways away. I'm just glad they scrubbed Joss Whedon from the project years ago. He would have ruined her.

I actually really liked Gina Gershon voicing Selina in The Batman. Thus far, that adaptation has been the most faithful translation we've received of Catwoman.