raynetempura's avatar
Do you mean [general] all author descriptions or ones primarily done in fanfiction? I think a lot of young writer's use the roleplay method for description and, yes, that is not the right way to do it. It's verbose and frankly a massive block of text that draws the reader out of the story. I think most professional writers do it well enough. Everyone writes differently, addresses these things differently, and it works in various styles. Finding new ways to say things is a way to avoid unneccessary repetition that can clutter sentences and also bring readers out of the story.

But I will have to disagree with you on the "if you care what they look like, here's a picture" mentality of addressing the problem. It's a writer's job to paint pictures with their words. If one can't find the words to describe something, they shouldn't just fill in that gap with another medium, but rather search and practice until they can use their words. Telling stories is done in many mediums. It's the writers job to do it with words and the artist's to do it with a brush or a pen.

I do think its important to have character descriptions (unless the characters are supposed to be generic representations of the common man, therefore any face could be put to them) because they are a part of the story. It's as important to know what the characters look like as it is to know what the landscape looks like, or if its going to rain, or how the battle played through. If we wrote without those details, we'd have characters moving through a bland world with no environment or action. It would be boring. The level of character detail is up to the writer. Maybe you want to say she has long hair, rather than long, blond hair... Or dark eyes rather than black or brown. But giving even just snippets of details help your characters come to life. When humans experience things, they do it visually, so a writer must help the reader experience everything visually by using their words. If that makes sense.

Sorry to just jump into the conversation. I understand the frustrations and, on some days, would probably join you in the ranting (I swear to Tunare, if Terry Goodkind called Richard "rare" one more f*%&#$@ time, I'd strangle him). I just thought there is another side to it and wanted to say what I felt.
artastrophe's avatar
no worries about jumping into the conversation! :) But now I feel bad you got dragged into it by what was kind of a facetious comment on my part; it was more an exaggerated projection of my own insecurities than a legitimate perspective I would enforce, ahaha... :blushes: Because there's nothing you said (and said very well!) that *I* disagree with. ^^

I still think of myself as aspiring to be a writer rather than legitimately being one, so I suppose I trust my instincts as an illustrator foremost. So it's easier for me to say with confidence, "here's what she looks like" with my paintbrush rather than with words. And as it's easier for me to see mistakes than see what I did well (which seems to be consistent in all my endeavors...), I'm more comfortable declaring what SHOULDN'T be done versus what should. I'm sure there's a happy medium with descriptions; my fears of sounding like a n00b have just prompted me to err on the side of saying too little. (Which I still realize is quite the error itself.) ^____^;

But that lacks humor and brevity, so I just said something flippant which I feel quite stupid about, now. xD

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, in any case!! I hope you don't feel it was too much a waste of it, as you didn't really have to convince me of anything! ^^ I think I was referring more to the casual/amateur/fanfic kind of writing anyway (though I have certainly seen it come up more than once in professional/published work. Maybe depends on what genre I'm reading... maybe I shouldn't include 'self'-published work, either... xD). Hmm, I should really just go back over some of my favorite books and dissect how they did everything... :sherlock:

also: omg your signature xD xD xD :heart: (who is the lucky character? :D)
raynetempura's avatar
Heheh, no worries at all. I was apprehensive at first and had to read over everything I wrote just to make sure it sounded as neutral and non-combative as possible. In the past, I have tried to state my opinion on something and wound up being completley misunderstood and getting into a huge fight. T___T I hate when that happens, because it definitely wasn't my goal. So I'm glad to know it was appreciated! Thanks for letting me jump in. ^_^

Anyway, I completely understand what you mean. I think I am the opposite of you... I feel more comfortable expressing what I want with my words, and I wish I could do it with a brush! I am slowly learning new tricks of the trade... but that is what's good about it: learning how to do something better. I'm sure that if you continue to work at it, you'll be as good at character descriptions as you are at art (and your artwork is simply beautiful)!

I understand completely what you mean about fanfiction and casual writing. I look back at my old stuff and instantly get this face: x_x. It took practice, and, honestly, mostly having other people edit my work and talk to me before I was able to see it for myself. Like any art, self-improvement is about 25% self and 75% advice/tutelage from others. Or at least I think so... <_< Going back and looking at some of your favorite books is probably a good idea. That's what I do when I want to improve on my art... I study some of my favorite pictures, look at tutorials, and watch livestreams and speedpaints on youtube. x3

Also, thanks about the signature... I stole it from someone else. The lucky character, heheh, seems to change depending on my current obsession, but for quite some time now it has been Adam Jensen from Deus Ex... :3