silversongwriter's avatar
What do gun manufacturers do? I'm in favor of 0 gun control outside of background checks.

Other than that, I say let people own all the AK's, M-16's or whatever assualt weapons they want. However, the only thing I disagree with the NRA on is background checks.

Other than that, I agree with them mostly
The-Last-Sea-Serpent's avatar
So you disagree with gun legislation such as the banning of lead bullets-lead is toxic, and the California version of this law let gun owners exchange their lead bullets for bismuth ones free of charge-and requiring guns not in use to be locked in a certified gun safe-to prevent both thieves and young children from getting a hold of them?
silversongwriter's avatar
Lead is toxic, but not just from touching it. The only people at risk from lead bullets are animals. True, animals are at risk from eating shell casing, and lead fumes can be harmful during the production if you aren't careful making them. But lead bullets are as dangerous as a lead pipe.

However, abrubtly haulting the production of a multi-million dollar industry just to save some animals that we were planning on killing anyway is a waste of time and a lot of money, especially if you expect the government to replace everyones bullets.

And as for that "Locking them up" thing... Well, the problem is lack of education. Gun education needs to be taught in school, you wouldn't have kids taking guns and playing with them if you simply taught children gun safety. Plus, when someone robs your house, you want a gun to be in the most convienient place possible so you can easilly use it. A safe isn't as practical as your nightstand. Robbers aren't going to wait until your finished opening the safe. It's like Illinois. They got this idiodic law that demands all guns that are in vehicles be in a locked case. That's dumb because it means you can't use it when you need it.
The-Last-Sea-Serpent's avatar
The major problem with lead bullets is that they poison scavenger animals (including the critically endangered California condor) which eat shot corpses. As for "protecting the economy", that same argument could also apply to nuclear weapons tests, unsanitary food processing facilities, and puppy mills.
And if you are going to take your gun with you in public, then you can take one extra minute to get it out if you wish to use it. Your right to have a weapon ends where everyone else's right to feel safe in public begins.
silversongwriter's avatar
Well, I think nuclear weapons tests are nessasary as long as nuclear weapons are nessasary. I think nuclear weapons are a good thing and help avoid real wars. If Israel for example had no nuclear weapons, they'd already have been destroyed.

"And if you are going to take your gun with you in public, then you can take one extra minute to get it out if you wish to use it"
Where do I start...

The only time I would need to take a gun out in public is in an emergency, I.E. A car jacker. Do you think a car jacker would wait for me to get my gun out of a box?

And you have the right to BE safe, not FEEL safe. You might feel unsafe by me having a gun, but in reality you are safer.
Just like I FEEL unsafe by gay people getting married. So by your arguement, it should be illegal since it makes me FEEL unsafe.

I can FEEL unsafe easilly, it's called being a parinoid idiot. But in reality, me having a gun and being able to defend myself makes the whole country safer. And by forcing me to keep my gun in a place where I can't use it for emergencies isn't making anyone safe
Jmoc1's avatar
There's a thing called two fists. Use them to defend yourself. I've taken on a gun-totter and I'm still alive. (I even took down the guy)

Also gay-marrige makes you feel unsafe? Wow, you are the wimpiest person I know.
silversongwriter's avatar
You are a fucking idiot. Are you literally telling me to bring my fists to a gun fight? Are you on drugs?

You beating up an armed man is pretty awesome I must admit. However, how is that an arguement in favor of gun control? Just because you happened to be very lucky and not get shot doesn't mean everyone is in that possition.

So if a four foot female was attacked by a 6 foot man with a lead pipe, then I guess she shoudln't use her gun. She should try to fight the armed guy.

Did you just come here to brag about beating an armed guy up? Or are you really that much of a selfish idiot that you think that everyone in the world is as big and lucky as you.

Why don't you go to a 12 yr old rape victim and ask her, "Why didn't you just use your fists?"

Is that really your arguement? You must be the stupidest person I've seen. And I don't really feel unsafe because of gay marriage, I was just using an example.

I could easily list things that make me feel unsafe. Does that mean everything that I feel unsafe for should be banned?

Also, if me owning a gun makes you feel unsafe, you're the wimp. You're already an idiot if you're actually using that ridiculous arguement for gun control. Most leftist have more sense than that.
Jmoc1's avatar
Most gun owners are white, middle aged, males who usually live in rural places. (There's a study on this from Harvard, but I'm too busy to look it up)

Now, with that in mind, in what world doesn't self defense classes help? In what world doesn't a parent escort a 12 yr old girl or at least have good friends to take care of them?

You need a gun to protect yourself? Chances are they are owned by a white, middle-aged, males. You have a home invader? Use a bat. You want to go hunting? Use an actual hunting weapon. (I hear bows are much more fun)

Sweden got away with gun control, so did Britain. Were there anymore rapes, murders, and thefts? Actually murders went down while the percentage of thefts was the same as the US. In fact even rapes dropped slightly from 32% to around 25%.

Though you want more guns? I'm sure Hitler would agree with you. Why not? He did lift the League of Nations gun ban in 1930.
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