Comment on Did you know? 03 by Nayzak
The Old Testament is from God. I never said it wasn't 
And God inspired it - when we say God, we mean the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit would have been the specific Person to influence the writing on the Bible, I think, but this doesn't mean the others had nothing to do with it. They are an undivided unity.
And God inspired it - when we say God, we mean the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit would have been the specific Person to influence the writing on the Bible, I think, but this doesn't mean the others had nothing to do with it. They are an undivided unity.
I think you missed my point ^^'. You see, when such laws as death penalty exists in the Old testament,and since you say that the son(meaning Jesus) is divine, as in being God Almighty, The God must be the very same from the Old Testament to the New Testament, God cannot change His mind or repent on things He created and made lawful and things He forbid. So you see, whenever we muslims meet a christain who gets astonished by the death penalty law and such in the Qu'ran, they dont realize that such law do in fact exist in the Old Testament and Jesus even honors the law and the prophets who carried them on. So shouldnt the christains go back to the law since it is the commandemet of God, dont they fear God?(also pay close attention to 2 timothy 3:16) Jesus himself never claimed that religion and the state should be separeted, it was Apostle Paul himself who made that happen, and many things he taught during the Roman dominant society, contradicted to the teachings of Jesus(pbuh).
Oh, I see. Sorry I didn't see what you meant! 
I'll do my best to explainI discussed it with a friend (who is more knowledgeable than I). I hope this answers your question 
We find in Hebrews 1:1-2: “God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.”
This change was foretold in Jeremiah 31:31-34: “”Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the LORD, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”” Notice that God said the covenant would differ from the law given to Moses. This isn’t a change of mind… as these verses clearly show, this change (upgrade) was planned from the foundation of the world! God planned to send his Son and that through Jesus we would obtain salvation (I Peter 1:19-20, II Timothy 1:9, II Thessalonians 2: 13-14).
There was a change in the covenant. There was nothing wrong the Old covenant, but the people were unable to keep it. It defined what sin was, but it brought no escape. It offered only hope for the future (Romans 7:7-13). In the end, it is Christ Himself that freed us from sin and the law. (Galatians 4:21-31; 5:1-4).
Paul said that the Old Law was nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14). In Ephesians 2:15, we learn that the law was put to death on the tree. Hence, the law ceased to be binding when Christ died on the cross. As we find in Hebrews: “For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it. For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives.” (Hebrews 9:16-17).
I'll do my best to explain
I discussed it with a friend (who is more knowledgeable than I). I hope this answers your question We find in Hebrews 1:1-2: “God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.”
This change was foretold in Jeremiah 31:31-34: “”Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the LORD, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”” Notice that God said the covenant would differ from the law given to Moses. This isn’t a change of mind… as these verses clearly show, this change (upgrade) was planned from the foundation of the world! God planned to send his Son and that through Jesus we would obtain salvation (I Peter 1:19-20, II Timothy 1:9, II Thessalonians 2: 13-14).
There was a change in the covenant. There was nothing wrong the Old covenant, but the people were unable to keep it. It defined what sin was, but it brought no escape. It offered only hope for the future (Romans 7:7-13). In the end, it is Christ Himself that freed us from sin and the law. (Galatians 4:21-31; 5:1-4).
Paul said that the Old Law was nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14). In Ephesians 2:15, we learn that the law was put to death on the tree. Hence, the law ceased to be binding when Christ died on the cross. As we find in Hebrews: “For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it. For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives.” (Hebrews 9:16-17).
I kinda find it hard to believe when according to Jesus(pbuh) himself, he never claimed that the law he got is different Moses(pbuh). In Islam, we're taught that we make no disctinction between the prophets, and they all carry the very same essensial message and the laws.
Jesus himself tells again that you should honor the commandements and the law from the Old Testament and that they shall be fullfilled if one seeks salvation:
"Think not that I am come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these commandments and teach men to do so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 5:17 – 20
And Jesus(as) also made it very clear how one could achieve salvation;
“And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’ And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ He saith unto him, ‘Which?’ Jesus said, ‘Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.’” Matthew 19:16-19
. In Islam, we're taught that we make no disctinction between the prophets, and they all carry the very same essensial message and the laws.Jesus himself tells again that you should honor the commandements and the law from the Old Testament and that they shall be fullfilled if one seeks salvation:
"Think not that I am come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these commandments and teach men to do so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 5:17 – 20
And Jesus(as) also made it very clear how one could achieve salvation;
“And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’ And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ He saith unto him, ‘Which?’ Jesus said, ‘Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.’” Matthew 19:16-19
Ah, my mistake, I meant to say Jeremiah.
Some of those Bible passages I quoted to you where from prophets, though... Like Ezekiel... about the coming of the new covenant and so on. You just said in Islam "there is no distinction between the prophets", yet you make a distinction here.
You also seem to be confusing the law with the commandments. Jesus FULFILLED the law. You seem to miss that part when quoting Christians STILL believe in and follow the Commandments (such as "do not murder, "do not steal" etc). So I don't know why you quoted that second paragraph.
You also seem to be confusing the law with the commandments. Jesus FULFILLED the law. You seem to miss that part when quoting
Christians STILL believe in and follow the Commandments (such as "do not murder, "do not steal" etc). So I don't know why you quoted that second paragraph.different from Moses(pbuh)'s law*