Comment on Hitler was Christian by FlacidPenis
"And for some reason, it wasnt applied to humans until Darwin's time, then Hitler's."
/facepalm
Except it was: Plato discussed such a concept 400 BCE to make a guardian class of protectors, an idea put into practice by the Spartans (who practiced a brutal form of survival of the fittest selective breeding). It was practiced by countless royal lines across Europe through out history on the basis of the flawed concept of "royal blood lines" among humans (with disastrous results).
THIS is why your statement is both malformed (in that you are making incorrect assumptions about history) & also irrelevant to this discussion.
As for why it became popular in the late 1800's & early 1900's is simply because the naturalist mechanism was accurately explained for the first time.
At which point the British Eugenics Education Society and the American Eugenics Society were created. Both sought & received support from leading clergymen, and modified their message to meet religious ideals. (Citation in case you are interested in doing some actual reading shm.oxfordjournals.org/content… )
"Just quit the "atheism vs christianity" fake dichotomy"
There is no "Atheism vs Christianity" in this conversation: There is just your misunderstanding of history & the facts that demonstrate your misunderstanding of history.
/facepalm
Except it was: Plato discussed such a concept 400 BCE to make a guardian class of protectors, an idea put into practice by the Spartans (who practiced a brutal form of survival of the fittest selective breeding). It was practiced by countless royal lines across Europe through out history on the basis of the flawed concept of "royal blood lines" among humans (with disastrous results).
THIS is why your statement is both malformed (in that you are making incorrect assumptions about history) & also irrelevant to this discussion.
As for why it became popular in the late 1800's & early 1900's is simply because the naturalist mechanism was accurately explained for the first time.
At which point the British Eugenics Education Society and the American Eugenics Society were created. Both sought & received support from leading clergymen, and modified their message to meet religious ideals. (Citation in case you are interested in doing some actual reading shm.oxfordjournals.org/content… )
"Just quit the "atheism vs christianity" fake dichotomy"
There is no "Atheism vs Christianity" in this conversation: There is just your misunderstanding of history & the facts that demonstrate your misunderstanding of history.
OH SHIET DAT 61 GUY SMOKED YA ASS MATTHEW
I'm sorry, I only speak English.
I'm sure.
Hey, look at that, that was in English.
Well of course it is.
Man, you Christians and Atheist sure can give a guy a laugh...I shall be on my way.
Man, you Christians and Atheist sure can give a guy a laugh...I shall be on my way.
Plato was a Christian?
Maybe he believed in the Greek system of deities, but his critical thinking has inspired atheism. Every good educated atheist quotes him regularly.
I was talking about Western Europe, using the perspective of Christianity as a geographical entity.
Royal bloodlines are irrelevant. It was a family thing and keeping certain families in power, it had nothing to do with eugenism as a science.
Of course everything will look like eugenism is you have that weird tendency to apply modern logics to old concepts.
The facts are on my side then I would dare to say
Maybe he believed in the Greek system of deities, but his critical thinking has inspired atheism. Every good educated atheist quotes him regularly.I was talking about Western Europe, using the perspective of Christianity as a geographical entity.
Royal bloodlines are irrelevant. It was a family thing and keeping certain families in power, it had nothing to do with eugenism as a science.
Of course everything will look like eugenism is you have that weird tendency to apply modern logics to old concepts.
As for why it became popular in the late 1800's & early 1900's is simply because the naturalist mechanism was accurately explained for the first time.In other terms science was considered as more relevant than religion and tradition. Atheism much?
The facts are on my side then I would dare to say
"Plato was a Christian?"
Mate the reason I quote you back to you is so you know exactly what part of ones statement I'm answering. If you want to play fucking stupid and waste my time by pretending not to know what part of your statement I'm answering we can stop this right now.
"Maybe he believed in the Greek system of deities, but his critical thinking has inspired atheism"
Okay you know what, you are just done, because you are just pulling a Gish gallop now. On top of which I think we both know you are just trolling at this point.
Mate the reason I quote you back to you is so you know exactly what part of ones statement I'm answering. If you want to play fucking stupid and waste my time by pretending not to know what part of your statement I'm answering we can stop this right now.
"Maybe he believed in the Greek system of deities, but his critical thinking has inspired atheism"
Okay you know what, you are just done, because you are just pulling a Gish gallop now. On top of which I think we both know you are just trolling at this point.