TracyWong's avatar
First - almost all the things you are nit picking about are style preferences, not problems or faults. It's important when critiquing other people's work to be able to discern between personal taste preferences and actual problems with the image.

Second, unless the artist has requested critique for the work, it's not cool to just come onto someone's page and tear apart their artwork with a list of things you feel are wrong with it.

Third, if you feel it's appropriate to critique another person's work, it's probably best that your artist skills are quite a bit higher or at least a bit more advanced than the person you are critiquing. There is a strange notion that some people have that anyone and everyone can leave great artistic critique to anyone else, despite their own personal artist skills or artistic level. Can anyone leave critique - of course, but should everyone and anyone leave critique to any other artist, despite their own personal skill level vs the skill level of the person they are critiquing? Probably not. To measure how good or bad something is (and more importantly, what can be done to improve it) requires knowledge about, and the intent of, the thing they are critiquing.
wwwjam's avatar
First: I clearly pointed out that there are many things I don't like, but acknowledge are stylistic. I sincerely doubt- and hope- that a thumb the length of 3 fingers is an intentional stylistic choice. Other problems were anatomical, no taste-driven. I even mentioned that in the part about the leg being bowed.

Second: It's on the internet. The comments are enabled. They didn't say "no crit plz". It's fair game for both compliments and criticism.

Third: A critic's personal skill does not matter especially when it comes to information about anatomical or logical flaws. One need not be an architect to see when a building looks hideous. One need not be a cook to know when food tastes horrible. One need not be a master artist to critique other artists. If that were the case, then Rob Leifeld wouldn't be getting his very justly deserved roastings over his insane work by people on the internet who are not in the comics industry. By your logic, he's working and they aren't, so they have no place to criticize his work!

If I were comparing myself to Elsevilla, that'd be another story, but I'm not, so it's a moot point.
TracyWong's avatar
I think finger length, forehead size, and hand size are style issues. Though I, personally, don't like a lot of the artist's style choices, I feel that much of what you are pointing out as flaws, are style related. But that's just my opinion, and the "flaws" are just your opinion. :)

You pointed out that you don't feel that skill matters when it comes to critique, and I couldn't disagree more. Going with you cook analogy, would a chef seriously take advice on what to do to improve their dish from someone who can only prepare food that comes in a box? An untrained chef or amateur cook might taste a dish and, realizing that it’s a bit bland, automatically say “Hey this needs more salt”, when it fact, it may not need salt at all, it may need some basil, or garlic, or some other spice that would improve the flavor. An amateur chef would know that, yes, it’s bland, but the advice they give on how to make it less bland could be Way Off.
Sye216's avatar
Not to butt in, but a person's artistic knowledge is not necessarily defined by their skill level in art. I can rattle off anatomy rule after anatomy rule, but I still have trouble expressing my knowledge in my art. I recognize what I'm doing wrong; the issue is getting my hand to go along with it.

Don't judge someone's artistic knowledge by their technical skill.
TracyWong's avatar
There is a difference between knowing a rule in theory and knowing it when you see it. Fact knowing and application knowing are two different things. I think this is one of those cases where we have to agree to disagree. :)
Sye216's avatar
Okay. I guess any time kids in my art class who aren't as artistically skilled as me give me critiques and recommendations, I'll ignore them because they obviously have no idea what they're talking about.
TracyWong's avatar
Whatever works for you. :) If something someone says makes sense to you, then go with it. If not, then don't. You're the only one who should decide what recommendations to take or not. If having people with little or no artistic skill telling you how to do your art helps you to improve, then awesome, go with it. If it doesn't help you, then ignore it. You are the best judge of what helps you on your journey. :D That's the cool thing about being human, we all have different things that help or hinder us. And we all have our own journey's to walk. May your journey be smooth and fun! :rose:
Kiwipancakes's avatar
Sye has a point.