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I didn't see it as incest act XD. I thought of this in two ways one it was her way of saying "I'm free from you forever, you evil bastard" and a way of taunting her brother with an emotion he'd never understand love. Cause well in their defense (I mean if people saw it as incest) I've seen Whoopi Goldberg's character in the Color Purple kiss her sister on the lips and it had nothing to do with perversion. It was an expression of love equivalent to that as a peck on the cheek. So thats probably why Laurie's kiss never bothered me XD.

Ohhh I saw the producer's cut and no don't like incest. Especially when they put it with a character as heartless as Michael. Which is why I don't see it with Michael but I won't get started with that subject or I'll get a bit witchyXD; and I don't wanna BD;;.
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Well, but a lot of people saw it as that xD. And yeah, I haven't seen what you've just said, but I saw a lot of other examples with kisses on the lips and they don't mean any harm or incest acts.

The producer's cut was weird, I like it and dislike it at the same time, but not because the incest part since I don't see it so weird, when you live in a world with full of crazy bastards that do stuff like that, and we all know Michael had some issues up there xD. But I disliked how they tried to explain about the curse of Thorn, I expected more of it, and I didn't liked how they used Michael as some kind of a puppet, the cult actually made him do that to his niece. I dunno.
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Ahh. Oh its an old movie.

Heh with the exception of adding a few scenes, the Producer's cut didn't feel very different. The incest thing was the only thing I didn't like from the film. I agree he has issues but in my mind Michael's like a shark or determined killing machine. I don't see Michael as a type of puppet for the Thorn thing. I can almost understand the curse of the thorn but it feels a bit over stretched or something. Michael doesn't want or need help if he kills its cause he wants to. Like with Resurrection he could had killed Rhymes character right there when he confronted him in that costume. But Michael chose to wait another time and decided to kill the others first. 

I can't see the whole incest thing with Michael because besides not believing him to be a puppet to the Thorn cult; he's not THAT messed up. I see the incest thing happening with Leatherface cause well they kinda fall under that category of messed up. Which is why in one of the sequels Leatherface is made a daddy:P. But Michael ... yeah no:P. It makes as much sense as Freddy suddenly wanting to say "I'm terrorizing the world for not loving me. No one loves me". 
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The incest thing and the fact that Michael was used as a puppet meant a lot to me as a change, at H6 he couldn't be controlled and also killed the cult at the end, but on the producer's cut he was like "yes sir(?)" (I hated it) he only fight back at the end with Wynn only to freed himself from the curse.
And that's when all of us has different kind of thoughts when it comes to try and guess what's inside his crazy head xD, I particulary enjoy that fact, when I'm all like "WTF were you thinking when you did that?" The case of Rhymes is an example btw. It was pretty funny xD.
Then you have Richard Curtis had his own version of Michael when he wrote that novel about the movie, I've to say I liked it pretty much. There is explained a better reason for his behaviour and curse about Samhain.
For that reason I don't like how they explained the curse on H6, I prefer to think he just moves around with this rage inside and the other stuff because of a curse, yes, but I don't like to see all that cult around him as if they were like "oh look, there he goes!"

He was a puppet of the cult we wanted it or not at the producer's cut, and he raped Jamie because they made him do it. I'm not a fan of the incest, but I don't care if it had to happen at these movies because I tend to get confused most of the times when Michael does different kind of thing, so it's like putting your hands in the fire for him when you "believe" he's not that messed up xP
As for myself for example, I never thought of the posibility of Leatherface getting into incest, since I saw him kind of horny at the sight of an ordinary woman, but not around his family. (When it comes about Michael, he only tends to behave as a voyeur, and he started it all watching at Judith with her BF) When you have to deal with this kind of characters, there will be always the doubt about which's their trigger. 
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I can understand, your views the Producer's cut. It does feel odd how his character went into a sudden change of being someone's wild dog or somethin'.

It is, lol. I never could understand how Michael didn't even once try to push or even punch Rhymes for basically chewing him out for being in the same room with him(even if he thought he was someone from his TV crew).

Hmm I gotta read that thing if I ever find it (Richard Curtis' novel I mean).

It bothered me a bit because it did still feel completely out of his character that someone we consider the embodiment of evil was manipulated like that. And as you said was basically like "yes sir". Doesn't feel like the monster we all fear.

Oh sorry mixed up my words... though I wouldn't put past Leatherface to commit incest. I meant to say his family is sorta the product of it, in a few comics its hinted he's the product of sibling incest. In a sequel its said the child in his family, was his daughter and was a product of rape. 

I suppose thats true. Makes me think of Criminal Minds show how you use the word trigger.Cause they use that a lot with profiling criminals.
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I recomend the novel, it's pretty interesting.

And yeah... that's totally ooc to me as well, "yes sir" should it be more like "yeah sure¿?" -stabs his face, lol- XD

Oh.. I see. I haven't read the Leatherface comics though, I'm still stuck with the Friday the 13th ones and Halloween. In which movie was that? I think it sounds me familiar, but I can't remember it so well.

I wasn't aware that show used that particular word for it, but yeah xD, I see a lot of real life cases in the news, and sometimes in other realistic films as well, and these things makes you think that you can never be sure of what's inside of a murderer/criminal's head, as an example. People with problems you can never guess, and the mind of a person can be such a pain in the ass. As an example, not so long ago a SoB went to a school and killed a lot of children (maybe you heard of it, I think it was in the UU.EE.), and I was like... WTF? I mean, what was he thinking when he chose to do such an awful thing? Mentally unstable people, they makes my head hurt. Sly.
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Neat:)

Lol would had been more entertaining if that had been the case XD.

Neither have I, I just read from what I see on wikipedia (only way I keep up with stuff).

They use a few words like that XD. Mostly if I hear right its "stressor" and "trigger". And yes I've noticed they do get some stories off a real life events. Its kinda scary cause some are obvious and some aren't. Hmm I've heard of it, if I think of the case you're referring to its probably the Sandy Hook shooting that was near Christmas. I've heard rumors that they found he was wayy too much into looking up events similar to what he did. Its scary when you don't know who's the real monster.
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It is scary indeed. It's more scary when you don't know where you could find/meet a person like that... some of them are so damn smart ._.
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