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Nah, Banica is no royal, she's a noble, yet is mentioned to have no manner whatsoever and relies solely on brute force of her zombies, even more so after becoming the demon Of Gluttony. Yu as Gallerian actually makes sense, especially if Nanako is Clockworker Doll. She fall into coma after she was kidnapped by Namatame, right? I can see Yu got batshit insane to make her wake up.  Er, no. Mitsuru isn't that broken as EVE is. She's also not that dumb , weak and passive. Nah. Slap Rei as Margarita. You know, all the memory play point. She doesn't remember what she is and deny the truth, and things got into a mess FOR EVERYONE once she remember. That's basically looking for the detail relationship... If you want to force things off.... Nemesis IS Ken's INITIAL PERSONA. Make that into what you will.  Yukiko, I think ? Kayo originally had black hair as naturally Snakelanders does , her pink-haired body actually is Lukana's. Also Kayo was known for good publicity but nasty personality inside. Yukiko is infamous as an ideal Yamato Nadeshiko, but inside, she's a weirdo. (even Chie looks sane compared to her in normal circumstances) . You got my point. They both wear Yamato Nadeshiko mask.  Although to see Fuuka snapped is indeed intriguing as hell. To be fair, Riliane became like that because she was heavily pressured by the fact she became an underage ruler, and most of her crimes committed was done under the Demon of Pride's influence.  Allen, however, willingly kill his foster father because it's Riliane's order, not because he was possessed or whatsoever. No one brainwashed him to make him do Riliane's nasty biddings, it's just his sibling love instinct that is twisted. (I think mothy love word lol) . Rise and Risette is "alternate personality" , doesn't count as siblings. Liz can bully Theo like as much like Riliane did in AkuMusu , but imagining her became as guilty as Riliane.. I really can't. Actually, in P1 there was siblings- the protagonist in the manga version actually had  a twin brother, Kazuya, and died when they was young. Kazuya died when he was out to buy manga for Naoya when he got sick, and got into a car accident. Their mother was greatly upset and sad to the point it derives Naoya himself to pretend he IS Kazuya, that Kazuya is still alive, and of course Naoya himself feels very guilty about it, he never got over it, he never forgave himself for it, to the point his Shadow appears as his twin, a mirror of himself minus the earring. Riliane never forgave herself because of Allen's death, and continue to impersonate Allen even after reincarnation as The Waiter.  Also Naoya's main arcana is Emperor , which is relatable as Riliane's rule as a despot. lol. Another pair of siblings in P1 is Reiji Kido and his half-elder brother , the Big Bad after all, Takahisa Kandori.  Reiji SERIOUSLY hate his half-brother, exclaiming his whole life is a mess thanks to said brother, and believes said half-sibling have to die. Nemesis also said Michelle is the sole reason her life is a mess and have to die. Reiji forgaves Kandori in P2 , though, unlike Nemesis that it still nuts even after killing Gallerian.  Also I said it already, the hot Suou brothers from P2 is both popular. lol. 

Okay, that's my reply, I hope I'm not offending anyone... 
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OH! I'm sorry I said Michaella when her name is Margarita! Since we agree on Chie and Yu so far, I skipped right to Mitsuru discussion xD I see you mention other persona games, so I'd have to research on that to give an opinion!
How could I forget about Ken, whoa. You're right, and there's a vengeance plot in him too, but I'm not entirely sure.
I thought on Yukiko too for envy, mostly because of the traditional background on both. I still this one is quite flexible! XD
I can see there is a strong point in the Daughter of Evil as well. But if I were to make it, I think, I'm ought to include the other important members of the story (Meiko, Kaito and Miku in the story, I forgot the names >.<). I'd like to know what do you think of them!

And don't worry about offense, we're just debating here :D
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nah, nope. Michaela is a frickin' deity  and the only "Miku" character in EC that is actually not Eve at all. Do it , I''ll be waiting! :3 Eh, Nemesis is Ken's persona to show his twisted idea of justice (god this ofc reminds me to EC) that Shinjiro killed his mom (accidentally, that is) , so Shinjiro must die t pay for that. And then what? Shinji died to protect him instead. Oh , the irony. Ken did forgave Shinji though, and that's why his Persona evolves.  Not only traditional background. Emphasis on "Yamato Nadeshiko mask with something completely opposite to it inside." Well, yes. Basically it's a story of a stalker, can be applied to any yandere.  What, Germaine (The Meiko character), Kyle (The Kaito character), and Michaela (the Miku character) ?   Germaine is very badass, we all know that, but too bad poor girl have his foster father killed...Her sole reason of revolution actually is to avenge said dad, and she thought her dad was killed by the Princess (done by her orders, still similar thing) ...Only to know that the actual culprit is the boy who had lived together with her for years, his foster brother, and the actual twin of the Princess, not to mention the boy actually is as cruel as his twin to laugh at Germaine for trying to avenge her father and says she's as demonic as the twins themselves. Then she became Irina's  new soul jar after done kicking Prim's ass, poor girl... After losing her dad, her brother, and then her own self? This girl has gone too much... Just like MANY EC characters. Kyle? Bah! For someone who already 26 years old, already became a king, he's nothing but his mom's puppet ! And too dumb to realize his friend's maid is lesbian for the albino one! And good job on ditching the throne, yeah, there's still suitable inheritor, but ditching the throne ? My god. Keep Waiting for a Response states that he had became what he want, a painter. With the cost of ditching the throne. Aww yeah. Have I mentioned it before that after Michaela "dies" , he moved to whom?  To his best friend's eldest daughter. Such pedo. *sigh* And Michaela? My god. "not understanding how human world works" is a good reason to slip in the yuri, MOTHY. The lesbian part with Clarith is canon, you know that, right? They even kissed! Then again, she's not dead, just "lost human body", she's a spirit from the start. After that? Becoming the successor of the physical god Held. Awww yeah. But why the hell she didnt do anything to the Theater in Greed era !? 
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I'll have to look into all that! Of course, I already thought on taking some liberties (since it's not like Minato REALLY fits Venomania, it was kind of a joke after all).

And yes, I like the idea of Nemesis and Shinjiro as Gallerian in this situation, not many disagreements here (And to be honest, I didn't like the song as much as others so I'm not interested in looking into all of wrath's story, EXCEPT maybe when she becomes master of the hellish yard :O)

As for Pride arc, I keep forgetting the names XD but yep, it's those you mention. I could add them in to a big drawing with several characters, similar to this one :D (Again, I'll probably take some liberties and maaaaybe a crack pairing even).

I'm already working on few sketches for Gluttony, but one thing I wonder is make the Persona characters wear their regular clothes or the EC ones (If you read my description I wasn't sure of that, but I went with regular since it fitted so well still. Not sure if Gluttony and others would make the same result). What do you think? :3
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lol . What. If Ken is Nemesis, and Shinji is Gally , who is Clockworker's Doll !? Minako !?  Oh, I'm curious about that too. XD.


You know, if you want make a big drawing of Pride Arc, you gotta draw Elluka Gumilia, Irina and Prim too. but who will be them. Lol.  Actually Tatsuya , rather than became Venomania fits more as Elluka because you know, she lost everything, make a journey to make up of a previous mass-destruction, is quite cranky and mysterious,  REALLY likes to curse (as in, foul words. I mean this is the woman who came to her knight friend's funeral and kick the coffin and yell "YOU FUCKING DUMBASS" and left) and is not above using rough ways to get things done, like when Elluka want to pass the longwall gate SHE BLOW THE GATE GUARDIAN AWAY.  And Minato as Gumilia, the mostly emotionless sniper witch apprentice. Awww yeee. 

EC clothes, of course. EC is well-known for the costume porn after all :3 XD . 
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I'm liking the Nemesis setup! I loooove Minako so I can't say no to that! (If you look closely I took some extra time drawing her XD)

I see. Pride arc is tricky then! And will probably be a big challenge which I'm willing to take soon :D (of those I don't know who Prim is). Given the big cast, I think it can be split in different drawings even, or made into a play (my way of saying "time to take more liberties" xD). Oh and if it's ok to ask, is there some site where I could catch up to all this wonderful information? D: Sadly I have no means to buy the novels and other stuff, and I can't read Japanese either >_<" but I'd like to know more about it! I'm mostly left on the songs and some wiki fragments.

And I guess EC clothes make more sense, too!
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lol. I see that she's the one who had the most detail, XD.  I'll wait until you finish it, then! 

Yes, it is. Pride Arc is so far the most flashy and famous arc (well, it is PRIDE arc after all), and have most number of plot-important character based off vocaloids. There's Clarith (A Haku character) , Michaela's lesbian girlfriend, Keel Freesis (the Kiyoteru character) ,Kyle's best friend,  Mikina Freesis (The Miki character) , Kyle's wife and one of  MANY Irina's pawn, Ney Futapie (a Neru character) , with real name Ney Marlon, Kyle's stepsister and one of Prim's many children, her right-hand  and spy to Lucifenia, and many more... And Prim (a Prima character) is Kyle's mother, and the de facto leader of Marlon, with Kyle being her puppet.... Which Prim herself is Irina's puppet. The actual antagonist of Pride arc.  

Oh ! I'm so glad when people asked this question. Did you keep in check with the Vocaloid Wiki? That's the wrong way to do it, EC have its own wiki, here's the link theevilliouschronicles.wikia.c… , and the TVtrope page: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php…  . Also, check the EC group on FB, they kept on updating the news quite frequently. www.facebook.com/groups/125982… . I'll invite you if needed. Also,  the main illustrator (the one who draws the most illustrations for EC franchise, for the PV, manga, illustration book, novel, etc) , Ichika, despite she's not that good in English (self-admitted, she even wrote it on her twitter bio) , may answer your question in English (despite being the broken one, lol). Her tumblr is ichi-ka.tumblr.com/ and her twitter is twitter.com/ichi_ka . That shameless person who mentioned her to make the detail of male conchita costume to cosplay it? That's me. Lol. 


Yeah! Because the EC clothes gives more "acting feels XD .
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Oh. I knew about EC Wiki so I go there from time to time :o
Thanks a lot for all those other links!! I really appreciate it and will take the time to go through them :D :heart:
Although I'm not sure about facebook, because I don't really use it (and don't plan to) >.<

And there's a chance I may work on this 'series' this week! At least to some degree, I'm feeling really positive about it :D
Thanks a lot for your support and looking forward to this, it is really great for me ;w;
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