Xenomaster's avatar
Albedo turned into a copy of Ben because he was the Omnitrix's default

An Anti-Hero (also spelled Anti Hero) is a character who, while not necessarily evil, has a number of flaws that make them different from the traditional heroes of fiction and folklore - Anti-Heroes can be selfish, rude or even criminal in nature but will play the part of a hero under certain conditions: whether it be for money, fame, and glory (such as Wario) or because they don't have a choice.

and if you think that anti-hero is the middle;

Basically the opposite of an anti-hero. While the anti-hero often fights on the protagonist's team, but with selfish motives, the anti-villain plays a villain's game, but for what's at least in their eyes a noble cause. They may be personally more noble or heroic than an anti-hero but the means to achieve their ends are often considered immoral, unjust, sometimes even evil. Sometimes, they may simply be a villain with gentlemanly qualities or a code of honor or some sense of justice. Anti-villains will occasionally side with their rivals (usually the protagonist) if a greater threat than themselves comes or it is in both of their best interests. Oftentimes, if they do join the protagonists, they are distrusted. Often also considered "grey" characters due to their moral ambiguity. It is possible to be both an anti-villain and anti-hero at the same time, depending on the character's goal and their methods of attaining it.

Examples of popular anti-villains include MagnetoOzymandias from Watchmen, Eric FinchBenjamin Linus, General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross from the Incredible Hulk comics, the Jigsaw Killer, Francis Hummel, Kane from Command & ConquerThe Operative from the film SerenityNagato from the Naruto series, Loki from the 2011 adaptation of the Thor comics, and the Imposter Dan from Dan Vs.. Despite this, there are some villains that do have good intentions but carry them out in a vicious manner which can make them Complete Monsters. An example of this would be Sentinel Prime from Transformers: Dark of the Moon.

The-Robot-Cat's avatar
If I may, what point are you trying to prove?  Do you want me to admit that anti-hero is a flawed description of these characters and change the title, or are you just trolling me?  This conversation seems to be going nowhere.
Xenomaster's avatar
i'm just arguing that these three characters don't have the title of anti-hero, i take heroes and villains seriously
The-Robot-Cat's avatar
As do I, but I get the feeling we come at the topic from different angles.  Agree to disagree?
Xenomaster's avatar
i could recommend some anti-heroes if you wish
The-Robot-Cat's avatar
That would be nice.  I'd like to see your ideal form of antihero. c:
Xenomaster's avatar
there's James Heller from Prototype 2 who killed who knows how many people just to save his daughter (along with a quote from the game going: Did I say I was a f**kin' hero, you piece of s**t?!)
or the Comedian from watchmen who stopped villainy and abused the American Dream, and The Mask (SOMEBODY STOP ME!) stops any form of antagonist just for fun
The-Robot-Cat's avatar
Okay, thanks for the suggestions c:
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