When you say something controversial or flawed in nature, people are GOING to point out the flaws in your thinking. When the shit you say gets REALLY dumb, people are going to give you flakk about it.
Congrats on being one of the many raging idiots who give TRUE FEMINISTS a bad name. YOU are one of the many little girls who help to give the word Feminist a negative connotation.
You are being very anti-feminist by letting men affect your sex life.
That's right!
You are letting men control and take away your right to enjoy your body because you let them make you thin that sex is something they afflict upon you.
Congrats, you anti-feminist. Way to take something enjoy and tarnish it with your soiled, man-controlled idea and sickness. But go ahead and let men control your sex life.
Not only that, she's also fucking transphobic/cissexist as hell. And she deliberately outs trans*people and misgenders them. And she deleted my comment when I linked her to an article on the violence the trans* community faces and why outing is not a good thing to do. I argued with her earlier about this and posted a screencap on both here and tumblr~ theprincessofchaos.deviantart.…
Well, on the ED forums, at least they mentioned NaokoElric2250 and my discussion where I ended up proving how transphobic she truly was. Hell, the people on the ED forums actually agreed with me that she was a transphobic/cissexist asshole~
And it's not easy to win them over usually. From my experience, many tend to be a bit arrogant but when you're on a place like ED and EDF, you gotta sorta puff your chest out or get eaten alive.
Yeah, I noticed. Only one of the ED people actually even noticed the transphobic comments NaokoElric2250 made. The rest of them were talking about how misogynist and misandrist NaokoElric2250 truly is~
Personally, I think NaokoElric2250 and ThisCrispyKat both need an ED page. Also, don't forget whatevachild from tumblr as a candidate for an ED page as well~
Oh, fuck off. I'm not respondingto that narrow-minded, assuming, typical bullshit. I came to my own conclusions retard. I am a real, strong, intelligent independent, self-resprecting, digified, honourable woman for not doing something so utterly weak, and self-oppressingfor a female.
No, you got it all wrong, you re being the retarded narrow minded one for thinking sex is evil, even though, get this, virtually every living animal does it to procreate
Humans being one of the few species that can do it for pleasure, in which it is for intimacy and feeling closer to ones partner. this applies to both heterosexual and homosexual individuals. It's nature, there's nothing weak about it, it's engrained into our genetic code to want it, males and females, if it weren't for sex our species would have never existed, nor would any that does not asexually reproduce. I can't tell if you're an elaborate troll or not honestly, and I have no idea how the fuck you came to this conclusion that sex means it makes females weak, I'm guessing maybe you've known one too many bussdowns who make themselves look like weak needy girls and decided to the far extreme you wouldn't become one..or whatever, but your logic transcends basic human nature and it utterly some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen spewed..ever wonder why you're the ONE sole person who seems to feel this way? Looking at your profile you seem to have a thing for anime couples and have a rager for Edward Elric..so you seem to believe in relationships..which I don't know how that works..you're logic is so backwards and ignorant I don't even know how someone as yourself exists..how did you come to the conclusion sex is evil? I'm curious, explain, I have an acute interest in human psychology and the make of sociopaths lol
Typical stuff I've read before and bullshit assumptions. How expected. I never said lust was unnatural. And you are saying it like asexuals do not exist. And I do not think sex is 'evil' (*yawn*).
I believe in relatonships because realationship and loves not equal sex. That is lust or the production of a new life.
And a 'rager' for Edward Elric? HA! I don't even like him. I'm not some pathetic fangirl who lusts after fictional charactrs. I',m not some pathetic girl who lusts after real life people.
You are narrow-minded, backwards and an idiot (like the rest) as you cannot accept a strong, independent woman and are scared of strong women such as myself. And I am not the only one who thinks so.
You seem to be putting it out there as if lust is unnatural, pardon my assumption.. And no I realize asexuals as yourself exist, but you keep demonizing sex and saying it makes a woman weak for doing so, if it is the natural order in which we reproduce, how is that so? And yes there can be love without sex I'm aware, but sex is how people in love typically consemate their love for one another and strengthen their relationship, as well as keep things exciting as well as it can be a display of romance believe it or not..
N ok fair enough, you don't have any kinda sexual desires or attraction to anyone..
No I'm not being backwards, and I actually respect strong independent woman far more than ignorant helpless girls fyi..
You act as though a woman who has chosen to participate in the natural biological need for human intimacy cannot be strong or independent for doing so it what bugs me and the resort of us.. From what I see you'd see a single mom supporting herself and her kid working two jobs and getting by on her own as weaker than a man because she had sex to conceive the child, that is foolish. Sex does not make one weaker, your logic has no basis, perhaps a nympho who can't function without getting laid every day and lusts after everything she sees with a penis, yeah, then perhaps you could validate an argument saying she is weak, otherwise, no. Simply refusing sex does not make you strong, it means you're an asexual who chooses not to participate in sexual activities or has no desire to do so. Anyone who feels like that could do so and still not be strong or independent. That's your personal preference, not a show of character. That's like being gay and refusing to be with the gender you're attracted to because you think it'd make you a weaker person..it makes no sense, you demonize people for the choices and natural desires shared by pretty much the entire earthly population because it makes you feel more secure with yourself in which you then put yourself on a pedestal and shame everyone who doesn't think like you. You are in fact anti feminist in what you do and shame your own gender, there's nothing wrong with people having and fulfilling natural desires as long as they're not some sleezy sex addict who screws everything that walks and lacks self respect. You can be celebit that's your choice, no ones discriminating towards you for that, but you throw around your opinions and discriminate those who don't agree with you then act better for it, you're not a strong woman for doing so, that makes you a bitch who blasts people for having different life choices and desires than you. Now top that because I just ran your argument into the ground.
Having it for reproduction is not the weak bit. Wanting and enjoying being dominated and used by a man is. As the child of a single mother, I know single parents are strong.
Ok then, that's fair.. But just because a woman has sex does not mean she is dominated if she agrees to it..there's a such thing as dominatrix mind you..why do woman have a clitoris if they're not supposed to enjoy it? And why do men feel pleasure? That's the ignorance in what you're saying. If its consensual what's the problem? A man is not using a woman if the woman agrees to it, if there's love involved what's the issue? Both can feel love and joy in the act, I don't understand why you think that makes a woman weaker, there can be deep mutual love involved with sex, that's what you don't seem to understand..
Dominatrix or not, if there is sex intercourse in it, she is still being penetrated (pegging does not count). And again, that pleasure is to make the reproductive process more comfortable, esepcially for women. Men feel pleasure due to the friction, duh. She is agreeing to be domininated and used (I did not say the man is using her, but she still allowing herself to be used, even if that is not the man's intenion).
I just cannot see hetrosexual sex as equating to love unless they are tying to make a baby. That is showing love, as you are so commited to their partner that they want to have a family with them.
By that logic if a woman wants it then she is also using the man to feel pleasure.. If both participants want it then how is this wrong?
And are you saying homosexual intercourse equals love then and heterosexual cannot? Because homosexual intercourse can't reproduce and is Sheryl for pleasure, that means between 2 men then the same difference I. What you're saying applies and a man is being used to submit himself to another man, as a female is then submissive to another female, In both instances, by you're logic this would make them weak.. You can't just pick what is correct and what isn't, love is equal on all plains, heterosexual and homosexual, saying one is right over the other just because of a varying difference is sexism.. Your logic makes no sense, you're basically saying sex is wrong unless one is conceiving a child when it all adds up.. If the case were pleasure is for making intercourse more enjoyable when having sex does that make it wrong for animals who have sex just for pleasure, because that does exist in The world you realize..humans aren't the only species that do it for fun, it's natural instinct and its one of the most intimate and enjoyable things lovers can do with each other..you're basically saying if 2 people have sex for fun then they don't really love each other and the relationship is purely superficial..can you not see what you're saying has absolutely no logical basis or standing and is purely you're own opinion?
Again, things I have previously explained. Ok, first off, at least in homosexual intercourse, things are more equal, due to the same genders, and as for the bit about animals doing it for pleasure, they do not stop the natural result of which from occurring.
And no, unless, it is rape, a woman cannot sexually ‘use’ a man, as once again, she is the penetrated, submissive, bottom partner.
It is logical to anyone who knows the psyical and biological facts of sex.
so what if things are more equal they do it for pleasure just as in heterosexual relationships, you're basically telling me homosexuals have a right to sex for pleasure and heterosexuals don't, is that right? In which you cant even say that, its discriminative, youre putting down woman for a natural act shared by virtually all living things and saying it makes them weaker than men, then claiming to be a feminist..pretty much saying a woman can only be better than or equal to a man if shes celibate unless conceiving.. It's discriminatory and sexist..yes, a woman who agrees to have sex with a man is giving herself up to him just as he is to her, you're saying just because the man penetrates the woman even if its consensual then the woman is weak minded for allowing it even if she's getting the same amount if not more pleasure for it, even if its passionate and they are making LOVE rather than just having sex..you're like some uptight scientist who refuses a known fact about human nature just because they can't understand it from the data they see, open your mind woman, you don't need to be so ignorant and tell everyone they're wrong because you can't understand consenting sex and relationships are a beautiful thing that are part of our biology
More bullshit and wrongful knowledge about me. *Sigh* Although the “uptight scientist” is new. I know it is not your intention, but I’ll gladly take that as a compliment . Better than being assumed to be some religious fanatic (which, contrary to popular belief is minority of religious peope.
Besides I would not a 'woman' if I, again, commited that ultimate female-opression, man-pleasing, and weakness.
A woman having sex can be just as strong as a man having sex.
There are different types of strength, after all. There is the strength in "dishing it out" and also there is a strength in being able to "take it". Penetration does not imply domination, there's really no connection between the two. You're jumping a wide gap here without any way to fill in the blanks. Making a statement and saying one equals the other because it makes sense to you will not make it click with other people . . . you have to add reasoning in between, to show us how you got all the way from penetration to domination.
And after all, while she is man-pleasing, the man is also woman-pleasing. So that makes them both partner-pleasers . . . and when you are in a relationship, there should be nothing wrong with wanting to please your partner, in any way, shape or form. People should be able to please each other in billions of different ways. Many people like to do this with sex, but there's nothing wrong with that.
Take fruits, for example. Strawberries are a tasty fruit. But so are apples, and watermelons, and oranges, and etc.. we shouldn't say that we don't need one kind of fruit just because there are others out there to enjoy, too.
When it comes to "using", the man is using the woman less than the woman is using the man. This is because, most commonly during sex, the man does most of the work, but women are capable of multiple orgasms, and thus receive more pleasure than a man does.
So by this logic, the man is not only working harder to please his partner (making the man more of a woman-pleaser than the woman is being a man-pleaser), but he is receiving less pleasure during the sex than the woman is.
I think the big issue here has more to do with society's perceptions than what is really biologically happening.
Ok, that's fine I suppose, if you want to believe a woman choosing to partake in loving consensual sex is oppressive and weak go ahead, that's not the case because a woman can enjoy sexual intercourse and have deep committed relationships without being a weak girl and a tramp, but you don't seem to understand that so I'm done.. You're entitled to your opinion no matter how ludicrous, if it makes you happy to believe it then go right ahead..please just don't put yourself on a pedestal and blast people who think differently is all.. But um this has been an interesting conversation I suppose to say the least and with that, I bid you adieu, peace out crazy asexual girl lol
I would say that claiming that a woman freely doing what feels natural for her and enjoying herself through sex is unfeminist and assuming that naturally the woman isn't getting as much out of it as the man... is extremely sexist.
I think you should look up this thing, it's called "asexuality". You might be asexual, or have experienced something in the past that makes you see sex as something bad. I also think you need to realize that you can't demand that every other woman acts just like you in this matter in the name of feminism. It just doesn't work like that.
No. Once again, there is nothing 'free', 'strong', or 'liberating' about letting a man invade, dominate, and own you. It is not something she is 'choosing' to do. She is being a weakling by surrendering to lust and wanting to submit her body, her whole being, to a man. There is nothing ‘enjoyable’ about a female committing the ultimate act of self-oppression and anti-feminist hypocrisy. I am equal to my opposite-gender friends (or just men in general) as I will not make myself their slave. The one having sex with a man and then daring to claim she is a feminist, a strong or independent woman, or objects and oppresses when people dare to have a negative opinion on her disgusting, destructive behaviour, just because she is female, is the sexist one. You could be the most successful female lawyer in the world and still be a slave to men (what amuses me is non-virgins claiming they don’t like relationships or need a man, because if not, they would still have their virginity, otherwise, they obviously do need them). Even a dildo counts.
And this bullshit again? Urgh. I am not answering that again. I do not have ‘recreational’ sex or any sexual activity (not even for reproduction, even though that is what is natural) as I am a real, strong, independent, intelligent, self-respecting, dignified, honourable, sophisticated woman, not some hammered-in rubbish you things were indoctrinated with.
If that's your view on sex, then the women in your life are all stupid for letting those kinds of men fuck them, not because they fuck.
If you equate sex to 'owning', 'invading' and 'dominating', then you haven't been adequately educated on the emotional aspects of sex. Or you've read way too many Hentais.
How is a woman not choosing to have sex when she has sex? You do realize that all sex is not rape, do you not?
Lust is natural. Lust is what propels the human kind. It's what keeps us alive. Without lust, we wouldn't have the desire and our kind would die out.
Your mouth is just as dirty as someones anal, all this shit comes out of it. There is more bacteria on your hands that on someones dick. Think about it next time when you and your bf hold hands
are you fucking serious? You don't need to have sex it's your choice but calling us sex dolls or other shit that crosses your mind, it's just ridiculous!
You are a self centered,close minded and very immature. And I'm no speaking of your sexuality choices.
And for your information honey, if your mom and daddy didn't have sex you wouldn't be here. So stop winning sex its natural and nothing wrong with it. It's like a massage. You have sex together with your partner, and both men and female feel the same pleasure of it. No one is forcing you to do it but stop talking like you speak for every woman.
And, once again, assuming that a woman's natural tendencies are slavery and that the norm is for the man to be the powerful one in the sexual act, and the both of them aren't equal in terms of pleasure and this "giving of one's body" that you speak of, is extremely sexist. It is in fact more sexist towards the woman than it is towards the man.
Women who have lost their virginity, claiming they don't need a man can be right. If they throw themselves at any asshole they can find, they are relationship addicts and they DO "need" a man. However, if they choose partners carefully and end up with a man, they do so because it can be NICE having a man, not because they desperately need one. Comparision: A person who drinks wine every once in a while drinks it because it can be nice to have every now and then. An alcoholic drinks pretty much anything with alcohol in it because they feel a desperate need to feel drunk.
You also seem to be forgetting that men can have relationship addictions too. But I guess someone like you would just jump to calling it sex addiction and assume that any man that enjoys having sex with a woman is not really looking for serious love.
A dildo is not even part of a man. You can't give your entire being to, or submit to, a dildo. A dildo can't be dominant. The dildo has no brain. The dildo was made for women's pleasure. Saying that by using their rights to feel sexual pleasure, women can make themselves lesser beings is sexist.
You are not a feminist. You calling yourself a feminist is an insult to, and harmful to, the name of real feminists. You are making it very difficult for real feminists to have their voice heard and taken seriously. Please stop doing whatever you're trying to do, as it isn't doing any good.
Women are penetrated, therefore hetrosexual intercourse is male-domininated. Even when a woman 'makes the firsgt move' she is just being all the more submissive. Yes, she can oppress herself using a dildo, as she is violating her own own, by her own hand.
And the thing about men and sex addiction. No. As the woman, she lost her virginity. She already threw herself needyly at a man. Nothing can change that. A female claiming sex addiction or 'hypersexuality' is nothing more than a slut trying to justify her behaviour.
You are the ones who are sttuffing your mothes shut with cocks, dearie.
So everytime I put food in my mouth, the food is being dominant towards me? Since it's something going in a hole, you know? What makes the penetrator logically dominant? Fact, or your delusion? You are constantly using the same argument but you base it on nothing but your own opinion, which has taken very little inspiration from facts or reality.
As a person who has masturbated, I don't feel violated. Not physically and not mentally. I have taken absolutely no damage from it. So, once again, what makes it violation? Fact, or your delusion?
As for the woman throwing herself at a man, you are still confusing "like" with "need". There is a large difference.
You need to get back to reality. Even your keyboard is giving up on you, as seen in the last line. And it's funny that you chose oral sex in particular to insult me, as I have no interest in giving, nor recieving, oral sex. But you know what? That's my personal opinion and decision. I don't run around saying it's unfeminist to do -insert thing I personally wouldn't do here- because it's stupid.
You are such an idiot and hypocrite. Those things you mentioned are non-sexual, they do not involve the domination of one gender over the other. The 'reality' once again, is women are penetrated by men, and are therefore the submissive sex in sex and any 'woman' who actually wants or 'enjoys' that is an insane, anti-feminist, man-pleaseing, wretch of a being.
I am do not 'deluded'. All of you man-slaves, you living sex doll, you self-degraders, are the deluded and stupid
And not wanting to give oral sex? Again, non-virgins/sexual 'virgins' show their hypocrisy. If all forms of sexual activity are not disgusting to you, then none are, as you cannot violate, degrade, and destroy yourself any more. I meean the oral thing as a general statement that you 'feminists' are too busy wanting cock to do anything strong or good. Your ‘opinion’ means nothing as you are man-pleasing, self-oppressing, piece of rubbish.And it is 'anti-feminist', sweetheart. Again, a non-virgin proves that pointless sex rots the female mind. And before you go insulting strong, self-respecting virgin woman by claiming you are one, you are not as you masturbate/have masturbated. You just do not feel that defilement as ‘feminists’ and ‘women’ have caused you to supress it.
P.S.: Those mistake in my writting is called 'bad eyesight which causes me to sometimes suggest to read to the text', idiot.
I'm not responding to that comment up there but...I just wanted to say > ....reading through these comments are highly amusing. What a load of crap oh and go ahead and block me I don't care.
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You're a FEMNAZI.
Congrats on being one of the many raging idiots who give TRUE FEMINISTS a bad name.
YOU are one of the many little girls who help to give the word Feminist a negative connotation.
Congrats, you anti-feminist. Way to take something enjoy and tarnish it with your soiled, man-controlled idea and sickness.
But go ahead and let men control your sex life.
Can you maybe link it if possible~
Well, on the ED forums, at least they mentioned NaokoElric2250 and my discussion where I ended up proving how transphobic she truly was. Hell, the people on the ED forums actually agreed with me that she was a transphobic/cissexist asshole~
From my experience, many tend to be a bit arrogant but when you're on a place like ED and EDF, you gotta sorta puff your chest out or get eaten alive.
But it does ring a bell
Personally, I think NaokoElric2250 and ThisCrispyKat both need an ED page. Also, don't forget whatevachild from tumblr as a candidate for an ED page as well~
Typical stuff I've read before and bullshit assumptions. How expected. I never said lust was unnatural. And you are saying it like asexuals do not exist. And I do not think sex is 'evil' (*yawn*).
I believe in relatonships because realationship and loves not equal sex. That is lust or the production of a new life.
And a 'rager' for Edward Elric? HA! I don't even like him. I'm not some pathetic fangirl who lusts after fictional charactrs. I',m not some pathetic girl who lusts after real life people.
You are narrow-minded, backwards and an idiot (like the rest) as you cannot accept a strong, independent woman and are scared of strong women such as myself. And I am not the only one who thinks so.
Dominatrix or not, if there is sex intercourse in it, she is still being penetrated (pegging does not count). And again, that pleasure is to make the reproductive process more comfortable, esepcially for women. Men feel pleasure due to the friction, duh. She is agreeing to be domininated and used (I did not say the man is using her, but she still allowing herself to be used, even if that is not the man's intenion).
I just cannot see hetrosexual sex as equating to love unless they are tying to make a baby. That is showing love, as you are so commited to their partner that they want to have a family with them.
Again, things I have previously explained. Ok, first off, at least in homosexual intercourse, things are more equal, due to the same genders, and as for the bit about animals doing it for pleasure, they do not stop the natural result of which from occurring.
And no, unless, it is rape, a woman cannot sexually ‘use’ a man, as once again, she is the penetrated, submissive, bottom partner.
It is logical to anyone who knows the psyical and biological facts of sex.
More bullshit and wrongful knowledge about me. *Sigh* Although the “uptight scientist” is new. I know it is not your intention, but I’ll gladly take that as a compliment
. Better than being assumed to be some religious fanatic (which, contrary to popular belief is minority of religious peope.
Besides I would not a 'woman' if I, again, commited that ultimate female-opression, man-pleasing, and weakness.
There are different types of strength, after all.
And after all, while she is man-pleasing, the man is also woman-pleasing. So that makes them both partner-pleasers . . . and when you are in a relationship, there should be nothing wrong with wanting to please your partner, in any way, shape or form. People should be able to please each other in billions of different ways. Many people like to do this with sex, but there's nothing wrong with that.
Take fruits, for example. Strawberries are a tasty fruit. But so are apples, and watermelons, and oranges, and etc.. we shouldn't say that we don't need one kind of fruit just because there are others out there to enjoy, too.
When it comes to "using", the man is using the woman less than the woman is using the man. This is because, most commonly during sex, the man does most of the work, but women are capable of multiple orgasms, and thus receive more pleasure than a man does.
So by this logic, the man is not only working harder to please his partner (making the man more of a woman-pleaser than the woman is being a man-pleaser), but he is receiving less pleasure during the sex than the woman is.
I think the big issue here has more to do with society's perceptions than what is really biologically happening.
*Shrugs* That's your opinion.
Good day to you, then.
No. Once again, there is nothing 'free', 'strong', or 'liberating' about letting a man invade, dominate, and own you. It is not something she is 'choosing' to do. She is being a weakling by surrendering to lust and wanting to submit her body, her whole being, to a man. There is nothing ‘enjoyable’ about a female committing the ultimate act of self-oppression and anti-feminist hypocrisy. I am equal to my opposite-gender friends (or just men in general) as I will not make myself their slave. The one having sex with a man and then daring to claim she is a feminist, a strong or independent woman, or objects and oppresses when people dare to have a negative opinion on her disgusting, destructive behaviour, just because she is female, is the sexist one. You could be the most successful female lawyer in the world and still be a slave to men (what amuses me is non-virgins claiming they don’t like relationships or need a man, because if not, they would still have their virginity, otherwise, they obviously do need them). Even a dildo counts.
And this bullshit again? Urgh. I am not answering that again. I do not have ‘recreational’ sex or any sexual activity (not even for reproduction, even though that is what is natural) as I am a real, strong, independent, intelligent, self-respecting, dignified, honourable, sophisticated woman, not some hammered-in rubbish you things were indoctrinated with.
Or you've read way too many Hentais.
You're a FEMNAZI.
And again *Yawn*.
Women are penetrated, therefore hetrosexual intercourse is male-domininated. Even when a woman 'makes the firsgt move' she is just being all the more submissive. Yes, she can oppress herself using a dildo, as she is violating her own own, by her own hand.
And the thing about men and sex addiction. No. As the woman, she lost her virginity. She already threw herself needyly at a man. Nothing can change that. A female claiming sex addiction or 'hypersexuality' is nothing more than a slut trying to justify her behaviour.
You are the ones who are sttuffing your mothes shut with cocks, dearie.
You are such an idiot and hypocrite. Those things you mentioned are non-sexual, they do not involve the domination of one gender over the other. The 'reality' once again, is women are penetrated by men, and are therefore the submissive sex in sex and any 'woman' who actually wants or 'enjoys' that is an insane, anti-feminist, man-pleaseing, wretch of a being.
I am do not 'deluded'. All of you man-slaves, you living sex doll, you self-degraders, are the deluded and stupid
And not wanting to give oral sex? Again, non-virgins/sexual 'virgins' show their hypocrisy. If all forms of sexual activity are not disgusting to you, then none are, as you cannot violate, degrade, and destroy yourself any more. I meean the oral thing as a general statement that you 'feminists' are too busy wanting cock to do anything strong or good. Your ‘opinion’ means nothing as you are man-pleasing, self-oppressing, piece of rubbish. And it is 'anti-feminist', sweetheart. Again, a non-virgin proves that pointless sex rots the female mind. And before you go insulting strong, self-respecting virgin woman by claiming you are one, you are not as you masturbate/have masturbated. You just do not feel that defilement as ‘feminists’ and ‘women’ have caused you to supress it.
P.S.: Those mistake in my writting is called 'bad eyesight which causes me to sometimes suggest to read to the text', idiot.
That will be all.