No. At least homosexual intercrouse. while never going to result in pregnancy, does not have the selfishness of recreational heterosexual interoucrse and things are more equal on the genders.
You cannot 'rape' a non-virgin female. She already let herself be deiled so claiming that one dick going in her is ok but another is suddenly a 'violation' then she is a liar and a hypocrite. You know what is a problem in regards to this? Women (and men) getting away with raping men, and women getting away with raping other women.
"You cannot 'rape' a non-virgin female. She already let herself be deiled so claiming that one dick going in her is ok but another is suddenly a 'violation' then she is a liar and a hypocrite. You know what is a problem in regards to this? Women (and men) getting away with raping men, and women getting away with raping other women."
Um...sorry if I read this wrong but...what....
Rape is about consent if she didn't give consent for that person to touch her it doesn't matter if she's had sex before , she did not give them permission. It's kind of a human respect thing? It's a violation because well she's a human being and has the right to make that choice. It doesn't matter if she's a virgin or not. There's nothing hypocritical about that. If I get married and have sex with my husband, but then another man has sex with me....then it means I deserve it?
Yeah, but I just feel it is hypocritical and non-virgins are hypocrites in general. I cannot change that. I'll glive you the example I give others, if you met a racist who hated blacks, but thought Asians were ok, you would still call them racists or a hypocrite, right? We are all hypocrites in one way or another.
No. Again, Marriage is different. Though peope made an offical commitment to each other. That is also ehy I believe you cannot 'cheat' on a girlfriend/boyfriend or non-virgin, as, well, old-fashioned as some think my views are, it is just the conclusion I came to.
Again, sorry. Please, don't let this come between us. How did you find this anyway? I am trying to leave all that drama behind now, but other people just keep bringing it up instead of just letting me have my opinon an dealing with it. They just keep BAWWWWING and spamming me.
I just disagreed because rape is more of a power thing than anything, using sex to gain power over someone, which is really wrong no matter who the victim is.
Like for example say I like chocolate cake is a food I love...but then someone ties me up and roughly force-feeds me chocolate cake until I throw up and it hurts my throat. It's not me being a hypocrite for not liking that when I like chocolate cake. It's just....the fact that it's being forced on me against my will.
People have said that yes, and I do see their point, but sex is an entirely different matter. They gave away their consent when they gave away their virginity. I mean, yes, she may suffer, but if a female non-virgin is raped, what does she lose? Will she suffer as much pain as some poor virgin? No, nothing and not as much. Again, I also understand is about power, but I also say to that, if it is all about power, then why it is still sex? The rapist must want, you know, 'satisfication'. I do feel symapathy for anyone who is raped (especially consided it happened to my aunt's sister), yes, but I just do not see it being true rape or as bad, when it is non-virgin female (regardless of the rapist's gender), as sexist as many think that is (but I don't care, they can think that shit all they like, I am honest if they don't like that, tough).
it is not about whether a person is a virgin or not. it is not whether the victim loves being tied up while having sex with his/her preferred partner. it IS about someone forcing themselves on another person. and it is very traumatizing because it is a total trespassing of personal space and privacy. sex is supposed to be done by 2 people who agree to have sex. they know their limitations and respect each other's wants and needs. rape, on the other hand, is the rapist forcing his wants on the victim, not caring whether the victim is being hurt or not. THAT is the point. THAT is why rape is wrong. if you keep focusing on the "sex" part, or, to be more specific, in the "penetration", then "most" of it will look just the same (and i say most, because not all rapists love using their d*cks to rape women. some use other stuff. try to imagine that.). the difference between consensual sex and rape is the application, or total lack, of respect.
*Sigh* I know rape is about power. But if it was not about sex as well, it would not be sexual. That non-virgin 'victim' already let her personal space and privacy be violated (that is why I call non-virgins hypocrites, as they are perfectly willing to do that, yet judge other's sexual behaviour or refuse to take part in certain sexual activities or take off clothes for a medical exam, etc). And I know that rape can be done via objects, which many seem to forget (well, from what I have seen). And rapists can be women, you know. Sorry if you already aknowledge this, but the way you phased that sentences makes it sound like you only think men can rape.
Women need to learn that is not 'misogynistic' or 'sexist' to be held accountable for their own actions as much as men - that is called equality and feminism. While it is certainly never the victim's fault if they are raped, some people need to understand that they can make themselves vulnerable to such an attack, such as by drinking heavily, getting up, personal and sexual with some stranger you only met minutes or hours before) or by advertising yourself in a sexual manner. It is 'victim-blaming' it is taking responsibility. I mean, you would say someone contributed them getting mugged if they wave about a pile of money and boast about how rich they are, would you not? People are free to do what they want, of course, but does not mean those actions cannot be rightfully critisized or shown as a mistake.
i do agree with the 2nd part of your statement. male or female victims should be as wary as they are responsible for themselves. but for the first part, yes i do acknowledge that men or women can be raped, and both can also be the rapists, and it can happen towards the opposite or same gender. my thing is that, giving permission to one person does NOT mean you give permission to all. you trust that certain person, and that's why you allow that person to participate in the activity of intercourse. how can you say one is a hypocrite? is it just because s/he is already not a virgin, so s/he can be freely "used" by everyone? mind that i say "used" because it is definitely not done in mutual consent. this is what you're totally missing. the activity should be agreed to by the 2 parties involved, whether girl-boy, boy-boy, or girl-girl. the consent should be mutual. rapists do not even wait for consent from the other party and force themselves on their victim. the name "rape" only changes to "stealing", "thievery" or "trespassing", depending on what activity was forced on the victim. with "rape", it becomes sexual that gets highlighted.
sorry, i know this has been up since back august, but i saw this through a friend and i cannot not correct your views. i don't care if you have or don't have a religion, but you should definitely hold yourself up to a little value.
Do non-virgin's have some forcefeild that blocks rapists or something? If that is true then I need to lose my virginity.
I suggest that you look up the definition of rape right now because you're not really making any sense. I bet you don't even have any proof that supports your claim.
My proof is the lack of hypocrisy and lying. Just like I said before, saying that one penis, or penial/phallic object can pnetrate her is ok, but another is suddenly not ok, a 'defiledment', 'against her will' is utterly retarded. It's like saying someone is not racist if they hate black people but are ok with asians. Non-virgins do not suffer the pysical pain, the hulimiation, the trauma that a virgin would in the taking and destorying of her body by some monster.
It's not hypocritical to want sex with one person but not another. I'll break it down for you.
There are people you do and don't like.
There are people you want to be friends with and people you don't want to be friends with. Even with your friends, there will be times when you don't feel like hanging out with them.
There are people you do want to date, and people you don't. There will be times when you won't feel up to going out on a date, sometimes even with someone you've been dating.
There are people you want to have sex with, and people you don't want to have sex with. There will be times when you will not want to have sex.
If someone you don't want to have sex with forces it on you, it's rape. When someone you have had sex with before forces it on you at a time that you don't want it, it's rape. You need to understand that sex is more than penetration; who and when are a couple of the most important factors of sex, and sex is an intimate act that you don't just share with with anyone in the world at any time.
Now that we've established that it's possible for non-virgins to not want sex, we can move onto the next point: they can feel pain, humiliation, and trauma from being forced into sex that they don't want. I'm not going to get into a petty argument with you about whether rape is worse for virgins. The fact is that when someone physically overpowers a person in a very intimate way, it has the potential to leave the victim - virgin or not - feeling ashamed and extremely vulnerable.
Not very good proof. Anyway non-virgins can feel traumatized by rape because when someone rapes someone they're forcing some emotional connection with you. Rapists are also very violent when they rape, so they do feel physical pain. If they didn't feel any pain then why would they bother to report these rapists?
Rape is horrifying. Rape can destroy your sense of self-worth, your ability to trust other people, and any sense of security you had before. It doesn't fucking matter if the victim was a virgin or not when it happened. Consensual sex in itself does not defile someone, if you truly love whoever you're having sex with, then you're fine.
But, by your fucked up logic, wouldn't a virgin woman who was raped be considered defiled because she had sex? If she was raped a second time, would that be considered rape, or no, because she had her virginity taken away?
People like you are the reason why rape victims have so much trouble seeking help. People like you say that they must have been asking for it in some way, or that they're just whores, or that they tricked their rapist.
Rape is no fucking joke, happened to me several times.
Sooooo, apparently to the dumb bitch who is trying to talk down on you "I gave in" or what the fuck ever she was talking about, I am so confused and shit.
They already gave up their self-worth when they pointlessly had sex. Again, it is perfectly logically. To say one penis or phallic object can defile her but another is suddenly 'rape' or 'unwanted' is blatant hypocrisy and lying. I don't care if it makes any of you 'sick', as I know what true rape is, a virgin suffering the agony, humliation, utter destruction of her body by some sick animal. A non-virgin female feels none of that.
No. She did not williningly give up her virginity.
*Sigh* Another misreading. Of course not. You were just a teenager, and underage at that, so obvously, you would not be interested in sex, so it would be rape. Though, by the way you speak of this so casually, I'm not fully sure I believe you. In any case, sorry that you misunderstood.
I was, you idiot. But it is not suprise you did not beleive me. I've always been more intelligent/knowlegdable then my peers at school and out. My mother did not treat him a child, like I would not understand. You would be suprised ny things children can understand. She started teaching me how to read at three, and research has shown that children can began to read as young as one.
OOH, SPECHUL SNOHFLAKE.Bitch, I learned to read at age three, too. It's not a huge deal. You're just jealous other people get action because no one wants your ugly, nerdy ass. Stop taking your jealousy out on fucking innocent people, cunt.
OOH, TROLL. I like being a nerd and no-one is 'ugly'. Such typicle, boring, over-used arugments. Only proves further that you are a troll not worth my time or energy.
I actually get frighteningly coherent when I'm pissed. My normal manner of speech is actually very jumbled and I stumble over pronunciations and sometimes even forget the English word for something, but the angrier I get, the more sense I actually make.
When I've reached complete coherence, that is when you fucking run.
Just so you know (in case the seemingly dimwitted you isn't aware), there's a difference between consensual sex, and then forcing it, usually ravaging their genitalia and sometimes killing them. People who rape others use it as a form of torture and cruelty, and the state of their virginity doesn't make it any more or less "wrong". It's still forcing an intimate act on someone who doesn't want it, and that's wrong. According to your logic, married people can't be raped either. It's people like you who need eradicated from this world for being small-minded, disrespectful, and insensitive.
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No. At least homosexual intercrouse. while never going to result in pregnancy, does not have the selfishness of recreational heterosexual interoucrse and things are more equal on the genders.
You cannot 'rape' a non-virgin female. She already let herself be deiled so claiming that one dick going in her is ok but another is suddenly a 'violation' then she is a liar and a hypocrite. You know what is a problem in regards to this? Women (and men) getting away with raping men, and women getting away with raping other women.
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Yeah, but I just feel it is hypocritical and non-virgins are hypocrites in general. I cannot change that. I'll glive you the example I give others, if you met a racist who hated blacks, but thought Asians were ok, you would still call them racists or a hypocrite, right? We are all hypocrites in one way or another.
No. Again, Marriage is different. Though peope made an offical commitment to each other. That is also ehy I believe you cannot 'cheat' on a girlfriend/boyfriend or non-virgin, as, well, old-fashioned as some think my views are, it is just the conclusion I came to.
Again, sorry. Please, don't let this come between us. How did you find this anyway? I am trying to leave all that drama behind now, but other people just keep bringing it up instead of just letting me have my opinon an dealing with it. They just keep BAWWWWING and spamming me.
it is not about whether a person is a virgin or not. it is not whether the victim loves being tied up while having sex with his/her preferred partner. it IS about someone forcing themselves on another person. and it is very traumatizing because it is a total trespassing of personal space and privacy. sex is supposed to be done by 2 people who agree to have sex. they know their limitations and respect each other's wants and needs. rape, on the other hand, is the rapist forcing his wants on the victim, not caring whether the victim is being hurt or not. THAT is the point. THAT is why rape is wrong. if you keep focusing on the "sex" part, or, to be more specific, in the "penetration", then "most" of it will look just the same (and i say most, because not all rapists love using their d*cks to rape women. some use other stuff. try to imagine that.). the difference between consensual sex and rape is the application, or total lack, of respect.
*Sigh* I know rape is about power. But if it was not about sex as well, it would not be sexual. That non-virgin 'victim' already let her personal space and privacy be violated (that is why I call non-virgins hypocrites, as they are perfectly willing to do that, yet judge other's sexual behaviour or refuse to take part in certain sexual activities or take off clothes for a medical exam, etc). And I know that rape can be done via objects, which many seem to forget (well, from what I have seen). And rapists can be women, you know. Sorry if you already aknowledge this, but the way you phased that sentences makes it sound like you only think men can rape.
Women need to learn that is not 'misogynistic' or 'sexist' to be held accountable for their own actions as much as men - that is called equality and feminism. While it is certainly never the victim's fault if they are raped, some people need to understand that they can make themselves vulnerable to such an attack, such as by drinking heavily, getting up, personal and sexual with some stranger you only met minutes or hours before) or by advertising yourself in a sexual manner. It is 'victim-blaming' it is taking responsibility. I mean, you would say someone contributed them getting mugged if they wave about a pile of money and boast about how rich they are, would you not? People are free to do what they want, of course, but does not mean those actions cannot be rightfully critisized or shown as a mistake.
but for the first part, yes i do acknowledge that men or women can be raped, and both can also be the rapists, and it can happen towards the opposite or same gender. my thing is that, giving permission to one person does NOT mean you give permission to all. you trust that certain person, and that's why you allow that person to participate in the activity of intercourse. how can you say one is a hypocrite? is it just because s/he is already not a virgin, so s/he can be freely "used" by everyone?
mind that i say "used" because it is definitely not done in mutual consent. this is what you're totally missing. the activity should be agreed to by the 2 parties involved, whether girl-boy, boy-boy, or girl-girl. the consent should be mutual. rapists do not even wait for consent from the other party and force themselves on their victim. the name "rape" only changes to "stealing", "thievery" or "trespassing", depending on what activity was forced on the victim. with "rape", it becomes sexual that gets highlighted.
sorry, i know this has been up since back august, but i saw this through a friend and i cannot not correct your views. i don't care if you have or don't have a religion, but you should definitely hold yourself up to a little value.
One day you'll realize the error of your ways and learn how to think logically.
If you see anything that is relevant to whether or not the victim is a virgin, then give me a heads-up because I must've missed it.
human beingpiece of fucking shit I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with.Do non-virgin's have some forcefeild that blocks rapists or something? If that is true then I need to lose my virginity.
I suggest that you look up the definition of rape right now because you're not really making any sense. I bet you don't even have any proof that supports your claim.
Not very good proof. Anyway non-virgins can feel traumatized by rape because when someone rapes someone they're forcing some emotional connection with you. Rapists are also very violent when they rape, so they do feel physical pain. If they didn't feel any pain then why would they bother to report these rapists?
I wish there was a like button.
Rape is no fucking joke, happened to me several times.
Sooooo, apparently to the dumb bitch who is trying to talk down on you "I gave in" or what the fuck ever she was talking about, I am so confused and shit.
I'm so confused XD
But I loooove what you said.
They already gave up their self-worth when they pointlessly had sex. Again, it is perfectly logically. To say one penis or phallic object can defile her but another is suddenly 'rape' or 'unwanted' is blatant hypocrisy and lying. I don't care if it makes any of you 'sick', as I know what true rape is, a virgin suffering the agony, humliation, utter destruction of her body by some sick animal. A non-virgin female feels none of that.
No. She did not williningly give up her virginity.
When I was 13 years old and I was raped several times by my neighbor, I wasn't raped?
Him tying me up, cutting me, gagging me with a cloth and threatening to kill me and then penetrating me isn't rape?
Instead I was merely giving myself in?
hahahaha... shut the fuck up
OOH, TROLL. I like being a nerd and no-one is 'ugly'. Such typicle, boring, over-used arugments. Only proves further that you are a troll not worth my time or energy.
Just... jesus.
...Somebody needs to make that a plz account, btw. There's the rainbow-vomit happy plz. We need a lava-vomit rage plz.
Oh god. You're serious, aren't you? You really need to see a therapist.
Wow. You are either a troll, or officially the worst misogynist I have ever spoken to. I also think I've spoken to you quite enough!