BudCharles's avatar
Are highly intelligent or very talented people better able to hide their misery from loved ones, thus making it all the harder to “read” them and help them?

I don't think that's quite why. Academic and creative intelligence does not equal emotional intelligence, being a good artist or scientist doesn't make someone good at hiding emotions. I think the main reason smarter people are harder to help is they have a solid logical reason for being upset and it's impossible to convince them they should be happy.
NormalIdeal's avatar
Such people have a high pride. I think that's a big reason they aren't eager to be helped.
BudCharles's avatar
I'm not sure about that, many successful and smart people have a much lower opinion of themselves than others.
NormalIdeal's avatar
That's so true! How do you know that?...But pride and low self esteem can go hand in hand. Everyone thinks you're perfect and you're proud of that image. But secretly, you think you suck. It might be a bad mix that ends in depression.
BudCharles's avatar
Many quotes from smart people like scientists, writers and artists who thought lowly of themselves, plus I'm one of the top students in my school academically but I'm also one of the saddest and least self-confident, so it happens on a smaller scale too.
NormalIdeal's avatar
Oh god, I learned to read and write at 3, started an anti global warming club at 4. First solo concert at 7. Always scored full in tests. Most popular girl in high school with guys begging to date me. And I'm the person with the lowest self esteem I know of! And I've always been kinda sad! I think it's related to being and thinking different. Do you know why yours is?
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Well I wrote this much more elegantly before, and I would've remembered it but grandpa went on some lecture about railways and I forgot every word.

Basically, I feel very restricted and trapped in this world, because I have so much creativity and imagination, and I can imagine going on an adventure in the TARDIS to the Pokemon World or The Isle of Berk every day, so a life of going to a school only 3 km away, and sitting on the same planet my whole life, is extremely boring, and also extremely depressing (ugh speaking of depressing I worded this so much better the previous time, dammit Google). 

I want a life where everything I can imagine can be made real right in front of me. It would be so exciting and thrilling, but instead I'm left with just the empty, lonely shell of my imagination. It's hard to explain, I can see, hear, touch and smell my imagination, but not as fully as I can real life. I sort of know that it's imaginary and because of that it feels empty, hollow, just out of reach, sort of like it's behind a computer screen, but in my mind. I want to have a life where it's not empty and hollow, but just as real as reality, unfortunately however that seems impossible under our depressing and frustrating laws of physics.

Add to this the fact that I'm pretty much the opposite of everyone else in my country. I am super left wing, probably the most progressive person on my continent, like I can imagine a world where animals vote and we have colonies on Pluto (I don't usually say that though because it will make me sound stupid and discredit the more moderate versions of my opinions). Yet I live in a country that is the second most conservative in the first world after the United States, we are like the freaking Texas of the world. Gay marriage is illegal, refugees are treated like crap, nobody's even considered animal rights, we're doing nothing on climate change, and everyone thinks and does what the TV tells them too. Also, everyone I know at school (except the science teachers) likes sports more than science, whereas I like science more. And I can't ride a bike or tie shoelaces even though I knew more about plate tectonics and planets than my science teacher. 

Having such different opinions and skills just makes me feel so miserable and alone, I feel like something is wrong with me, like I am not even human. Everyone around me says how amazingly smart I am, but all I see in myself is how amazingly mutated I am. And the only characters I CAN relate to are either fictional (Kimba, Hiccup, the Doctor), or another species (my dogs), which is as you can imagine very depressing and isolating.

So yeah it's really complicated, there's even more to me being depressed than that, heaps of little causes like my guilt about being sexually attracted to animals and a few other things, my feeling of emptiness after I deliberately tried to lose passion for things after my brother deleted my Typhlosion and it actually worked (I know that was stupid but I was in Year 6 at the time, and I regret it now but I haven't recovered), my feeling of being trapped because I hate my brothers so much and I'm forced to live in the same tiny little house as them (I legit want my brothers to die, I know it sounds harsh but you would agree if you were forced to live with them for 14 years and counting), my worries that I'm not talented enough and don't have enough people skills to make the films and games I want to and make Quilava popular enough to make it real one day, all these things just pile on, and I just sort of stare at the huge list of things causing my depression and just go "fuck it, I can't fix all this, I'll just have to live with it", which only makes it worse.

I just feel like total shit, all the time, it friggin sucks. Sometimes I can distract myself from it, but it's always there, this mixture of being heavy in the stomach and empty like a hollow shell. I just want to sit in a corner and break down crying sometimes. It fucking sucks.

Lol sorry about making you read all that but you just triggering something in me and I spewed it all out of the depths of my mind XD
NormalIdeal's avatar
Oh I feel you...I chuckled a few times while reading through :)

In the future it might be possible to (almost) live in very advanced computer games which you've probably thought about. And it is possible that you'll be able to design them however you want. But they will still be games...Still something :)

You're very creative, left wing, science lover, etc. which most people aren't. And that does get depressing at times  Llama Emoji 33 (Down or Depressed) [V2] I know it from myself. But actually there are many people just like us. Only you have to find a few (or more) to feel human again...I think you're very young so you haven't had much opportunity but for example in the future, a great college with a department full of creative types or science lovers can serve you kinda well about that loneliness thing...Ok not so sure about the sexually attracted to animals part...Pfft, how did you develop that?! Sorry, sorry. Maybe too much hormones, no person to have sex to, and a few loved animals...Well I like hentai and feel damn guilty about it so I can't question you too much. Still, sex with people is the best solution. People sex is GOOD. I can't tell a 14 year old (I think?) to go have sex with someone so I say wait for it? :)

Hmm, you could try what I do from time to time to keep sane: For a while, do things completely different or new at your free times. Do that for a few days, maybe. Like instead of drawing, etc., go sit at a park and listen to music. Or try to cook something or...Anything, just different than what you usually do and where you usually are, or with who you usually are. And it should be really fun for you. That way, you give yourself a new life. Then go back and live your usual life. When I do that, it makes me realize "Have I really worried about these things so much?! I should chill about them more."
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I just typed a whole comment and then Chrome decided to reload the page for no reason, so that sucked :/ Just a minute while I try to remember the entire paragraph I just poured my heart into xD Stupid internet XD
NormalIdeal's avatar
It happened to me before, too. It sucks! Haha.
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