Comment on dream feels by Koili
"We don't believe we ARE fictional characters" well, maybe you don't and in that case it's ok, but I'd like to remind you that you're not the only one in this comunity. I've actually seen and spoken to people who LITELLARLY tought they were a wolf/cat/dragon, so yeah, sorry for that misunderstanding but I was just basing my reaction on my previous expiriences.
"we have been in a diffrent timeline" ok, now I gotta stop you. The reason I have a problem with this statment is because you say that as if it was a fact, and it isn't. What solid evidence do you have exactly to prove that claim? And before you say "ugh, just let me believe" I'm just gonna go ahead and say: no, at least as long as you don't block me I won't settle for a compromise in this category. Why? Because it's the eqivalent of saying "The earth is flat" it's a claim you have no prove for and yet say it as if it's true. I wouldn't let a flat earther roam free and spread misinformation eitcher so don't feel persecuted for this.
"It's the exact same thing as believing in reincarnation" well, there is no proof for reincarnation either, so I guess you're right.
"except with the infinite universe theory" I believe what you mean is the "multiverse theory" in which case I must sadly tell you that although it is studied by many scientist there is not much evidence to support it and thus it further deminishes the strenght of your argument.
Ok, now I'd like to take a break from your comment and touch upon something important. Thus far, you've claimed that: the multiverse theory is right, you came from a diffrent timeline, souls can pass to other universes (I know you didn't said that directly but considering your comparison to reincarnation I thought it worked similarly and therefore concluded this statment, if I'm wrong about this being the case then please inform me about it as I do not wish to push misleading narrative in my future comments). All those three statments do not have any poof to back them up, yet you treat them as fact. This is probably my biggest problem with this mindset. You see, I actually am surprisingly respectful to others beliefs, as long as they do not conflict with scientific data. I have quite a lot of religious friends, all of them believe in a christian god, and while I know there is no way to prove his existance I don't argue about it with them. Do you know why? Because they don't say Earth was created 6000 years ago, they don't say a great flood once covered all of the continents and the highest tops while all of animal life was placed on one boat, they know there is no evidence to back that up. Unlike you, who claims tho come from another timeline beyond any reason or logic. You can't just claim something and then expect others to not interfere with your belief if it's actually going against currently known scientific data.
Also, I just now noticed, you said "We don't believe we ARE fictional characters, we have been in a diffrent timeline" isn't that, like, the same thing though? Like, if a character from a universe parallel to ours would die and then you'd be reborn as that character, wouldn't you litellarly BE that character? Whatever, I digress, this comment is getting long already and I'm not even hlfway done with your first paragraph.
"People can use it to cope, which isn't even hurting anyone, and helps ease someone's mind" I begg to differ, remember the wolfkin I told you about erlier? He ate raw meat to be more "like his kind" which caused him some serious health issues. Maybe you're not directly hurting others, but you're definetly hurting yourself, even if you aren't as hard in the community as that wolf guy. You're actually spreading misinformation by trying to justify your position by claims that don't come with evidence. Suffice to say, you shouldn't do that, both because misinformation can mislead others and because you actually believing that stuff is basically like lying to yourself, and that is not a good way to cope.
"If you really think someone is going to go outside, take their clothes off, hunt and eat raw animals in chunks and try to terrorize people like a dragon, you need to get your priorities straight, bro." No, I don't think that, and even if someone were to do that, their rather weak attempts at terrorizing people like a dragon would probably be cut short by the police, so yeah. Also, sa I stated erlier, my concerns aren't about the well-being of others but rather that of someone in the kin community, and spreading misinformation.
"The multiple universe theory is that even if the characters or people that didn't exist before the creators made them, once that universe is set in stone, they exist somewhere" Ok, sorry to say this, but this is just a piece of garbage shit. This isn't even an argument, you're making stuff up at this point. You can't just say "well, when someone creates a universe it just randomly apears in the multiverse because fuck logic" and then be like "Yup, that definetly ended that argument, totally destroyed'em" like, no, that's just not how it works. First of all HOW would human minds even be capable of creating whole universes? Acording to Einsteins equation E=mc(2) all matter has an equal amount of energy. Our universe is a closed circuit, it has a set amount of energy and mass that can change places and change into one another. So basically what you are saying, is that every time someone creates a fictional world, an enoumusly large amount of energy/mass leaves our universe to create another universe that's at least as big as our own, and that doesn't affect our universe at all nor is it observable through the most precise scientific equipment in the world. Yeah, I call bullshit. And before you go "Nu-uh! I dun say that!" let me give you one useful piece of information: YOU CAN'T GO AGAINST BASIC LAWS OF PHISICS. To create something you need either mass or energy, plain and simple. You can't get energy or mass from anywhere else than this universe because it's a closed circut, and our minds or whatever is controling the creation of those other verses wouldn't be able to take any mass or energy from the outside. That's why, it is the only logical way to assume that energy is taken from our universe, and as I stated erlier, that's bullshit, so yeah.
"Rick and Morty kinda use that all the time, even if it's bad universes or timelines, shit happens." Just because a FICTIONAL universe uses those standards doesn't mean they apply to our own. I know that this concept might be hard to grasp for soeone who doesn't distinguish between the two, but trust me on that, if there are unicorns in a fictional universe it does not prove the existance of unicorns in ours.
"Being otherkin/fictionkin is a PERFECTLY ok way to cope." Nope, and I already explained why.
"It hurts no one, it gives someone peace of mind that there's a reason for how they feel, or what they've experienced, and even memories that don't connect with anything, it's a really nice outlet, something to be loved and help others, and if you think that a concept that doesn't hurt anyone, doesn't influence others into anything wrong, and stays to someone's likes, then you ARE the problem." Well then, I'm glad I am not the problem, as I already explained how this behaviour is harmful to you and others, and is not a good way to cope at all. What a relief.
"Liking a character, being kin with them because of the multiple universe theory = Good, and you have no say in it." Making up bullshit excuses to believe in fiction and spread misinformation = bad and I'll do everything I can to stop you.
"Roleplaying, liking characters, relating to them = Good." Glad we can finally agree on something.
"Maybe learn to respect other people JUST a little, bro. It ain't hurtin' you, or anyone else, leave us be." well, my brain IS hurting from the stupidity overdose, so you might wanna rephrase that last part.
Anyway, sorry if I seemed overly harsh in this comment, but I really do not tolerate pseudo-scientific babling that proves nothing and spreads misinformation. Hope I helped you realise how wrong you are.
"we have been in a diffrent timeline" ok, now I gotta stop you. The reason I have a problem with this statment is because you say that as if it was a fact, and it isn't. What solid evidence do you have exactly to prove that claim? And before you say "ugh, just let me believe" I'm just gonna go ahead and say: no, at least as long as you don't block me I won't settle for a compromise in this category. Why? Because it's the eqivalent of saying "The earth is flat" it's a claim you have no prove for and yet say it as if it's true. I wouldn't let a flat earther roam free and spread misinformation eitcher so don't feel persecuted for this.
"It's the exact same thing as believing in reincarnation" well, there is no proof for reincarnation either, so I guess you're right.
"except with the infinite universe theory" I believe what you mean is the "multiverse theory" in which case I must sadly tell you that although it is studied by many scientist there is not much evidence to support it and thus it further deminishes the strenght of your argument.
Ok, now I'd like to take a break from your comment and touch upon something important. Thus far, you've claimed that: the multiverse theory is right, you came from a diffrent timeline, souls can pass to other universes (I know you didn't said that directly but considering your comparison to reincarnation I thought it worked similarly and therefore concluded this statment, if I'm wrong about this being the case then please inform me about it as I do not wish to push misleading narrative in my future comments). All those three statments do not have any poof to back them up, yet you treat them as fact. This is probably my biggest problem with this mindset. You see, I actually am surprisingly respectful to others beliefs, as long as they do not conflict with scientific data. I have quite a lot of religious friends, all of them believe in a christian god, and while I know there is no way to prove his existance I don't argue about it with them. Do you know why? Because they don't say Earth was created 6000 years ago, they don't say a great flood once covered all of the continents and the highest tops while all of animal life was placed on one boat, they know there is no evidence to back that up. Unlike you, who claims tho come from another timeline beyond any reason or logic. You can't just claim something and then expect others to not interfere with your belief if it's actually going against currently known scientific data.
Also, I just now noticed, you said "We don't believe we ARE fictional characters, we have been in a diffrent timeline" isn't that, like, the same thing though? Like, if a character from a universe parallel to ours would die and then you'd be reborn as that character, wouldn't you litellarly BE that character? Whatever, I digress, this comment is getting long already and I'm not even hlfway done with your first paragraph.
"People can use it to cope, which isn't even hurting anyone, and helps ease someone's mind" I begg to differ, remember the wolfkin I told you about erlier? He ate raw meat to be more "like his kind" which caused him some serious health issues. Maybe you're not directly hurting others, but you're definetly hurting yourself, even if you aren't as hard in the community as that wolf guy. You're actually spreading misinformation by trying to justify your position by claims that don't come with evidence. Suffice to say, you shouldn't do that, both because misinformation can mislead others and because you actually believing that stuff is basically like lying to yourself, and that is not a good way to cope.
"If you really think someone is going to go outside, take their clothes off, hunt and eat raw animals in chunks and try to terrorize people like a dragon, you need to get your priorities straight, bro." No, I don't think that, and even if someone were to do that, their rather weak attempts at terrorizing people like a dragon would probably be cut short by the police, so yeah. Also, sa I stated erlier, my concerns aren't about the well-being of others but rather that of someone in the kin community, and spreading misinformation.
"The multiple universe theory is that even if the characters or people that didn't exist before the creators made them, once that universe is set in stone, they exist somewhere" Ok, sorry to say this, but this is just a piece of garbage shit. This isn't even an argument, you're making stuff up at this point. You can't just say "well, when someone creates a universe it just randomly apears in the multiverse because fuck logic" and then be like "Yup, that definetly ended that argument, totally destroyed'em" like, no, that's just not how it works. First of all HOW would human minds even be capable of creating whole universes? Acording to Einsteins equation E=mc(2) all matter has an equal amount of energy. Our universe is a closed circuit, it has a set amount of energy and mass that can change places and change into one another. So basically what you are saying, is that every time someone creates a fictional world, an enoumusly large amount of energy/mass leaves our universe to create another universe that's at least as big as our own, and that doesn't affect our universe at all nor is it observable through the most precise scientific equipment in the world. Yeah, I call bullshit. And before you go "Nu-uh! I dun say that!" let me give you one useful piece of information: YOU CAN'T GO AGAINST BASIC LAWS OF PHISICS. To create something you need either mass or energy, plain and simple. You can't get energy or mass from anywhere else than this universe because it's a closed circut, and our minds or whatever is controling the creation of those other verses wouldn't be able to take any mass or energy from the outside. That's why, it is the only logical way to assume that energy is taken from our universe, and as I stated erlier, that's bullshit, so yeah.
"Rick and Morty kinda use that all the time, even if it's bad universes or timelines, shit happens." Just because a FICTIONAL universe uses those standards doesn't mean they apply to our own. I know that this concept might be hard to grasp for soeone who doesn't distinguish between the two, but trust me on that, if there are unicorns in a fictional universe it does not prove the existance of unicorns in ours.
"Being otherkin/fictionkin is a PERFECTLY ok way to cope." Nope, and I already explained why.
"It hurts no one, it gives someone peace of mind that there's a reason for how they feel, or what they've experienced, and even memories that don't connect with anything, it's a really nice outlet, something to be loved and help others, and if you think that a concept that doesn't hurt anyone, doesn't influence others into anything wrong, and stays to someone's likes, then you ARE the problem." Well then, I'm glad I am not the problem, as I already explained how this behaviour is harmful to you and others, and is not a good way to cope at all. What a relief.
"Liking a character, being kin with them because of the multiple universe theory = Good, and you have no say in it." Making up bullshit excuses to believe in fiction and spread misinformation = bad and I'll do everything I can to stop you.
"Roleplaying, liking characters, relating to them = Good." Glad we can finally agree on something.
"Maybe learn to respect other people JUST a little, bro. It ain't hurtin' you, or anyone else, leave us be." well, my brain IS hurting from the stupidity overdose, so you might wanna rephrase that last part.
Anyway, sorry if I seemed overly harsh in this comment, but I really do not tolerate pseudo-scientific babling that proves nothing and spreads misinformation. Hope I helped you realise how wrong you are.
FACT: the universe is more than what we can perceive, just because you live with one way of thinking about it doesn't mean you have the "correct" one. Marketplace of ideas, bro. Intelligent discussion only works if no one is being told their ideas are stupid.
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You're comment was so fucking long, and preachy that I gave up halfway, not because of laziness, but because you're literally so full of yourself and so far up your own ass that it wasn't WORTH reading, all you did was try to belittle me and then try to say "sorry if I came over as overly harsh", shut the actual fuck up, you know what you did. You're levels of intolerance of other people's beliefs are off the charts. And the "I'm treating my things as fact" comment, so are you, bro.
You can't do shit to stop me, you're nothing but a damn keyboard warrior who can't handle someone else having beliefs that you don't, and can't stand other people being happy with something you can't be happy with.
Just shut the actual fuck up??? Like, no one cares what YOU think, you're one drop in the fucking bucket of people who want to be happy, and you're more than welcome to stay in your little hate bubble all you want.
When therapists tell you it's a perfectly good way to cope, damn you know what? Their diplomas might just be void! Wow, someone on the internet who thought they were smarter than everyone else was so much more right about this than someone who went to school for this!!
Just get out, Me, my girlfriend, and a LOT of our friends are otherkin/fictionkin and you're just not welcome here, just like you don't want us flocking to your page to talk about how much of a cunt you are.
I'm also screenshotting this and putting it up on a avoid blog for people to know what kind of person you are <3
Have a nice day sweaty :^)
You can't do shit to stop me, you're nothing but a damn keyboard warrior who can't handle someone else having beliefs that you don't, and can't stand other people being happy with something you can't be happy with.
Just shut the actual fuck up??? Like, no one cares what YOU think, you're one drop in the fucking bucket of people who want to be happy, and you're more than welcome to stay in your little hate bubble all you want.
When therapists tell you it's a perfectly good way to cope, damn you know what? Their diplomas might just be void! Wow, someone on the internet who thought they were smarter than everyone else was so much more right about this than someone who went to school for this!!
Just get out, Me, my girlfriend, and a LOT of our friends are otherkin/fictionkin and you're just not welcome here, just like you don't want us flocking to your page to talk about how much of a cunt you are.
I'm also screenshotting this and putting it up on a avoid blog for people to know what kind of person you are <3
Have a nice day sweaty :^)