Valkyrie1981's avatar
So no government should exist? You can't have no government, just one based on conservative principles of Limited Government. We need a government that soul job is to protect, and defend, handle infrastructure but leave, education, and personal responsibility in the hands of the people of a free market.

There will never be a 1 class world. There will always be rich, poor, and middle class. But we must give people the right to pursue happiness… NO ONE SHOULD BE GRANTED IT. You are not guaranteed anything at life but the chance. Do poor people have to work harder? Yes that is life. But making the rich poorer only makes the poor poorer. Class warfare does nothing but hurt all.

We must deal with the cards dealt to us, and when government starts stacking the deck we all lose. In the game of life, even those with the worst of hands can win big, and it should be up to them alone to do so. If they don’t they did so by their own choice. I am tired of hearing the Poor, which I was for a long time in my life cry about being poor and demand at the same time that someone else do something about it. If it’s hot get out of the kitchen.
government should exist

and i agree with what you say

but you see what you wrote is nothing more a utopia that cannot exist because of the flawed factor of existence, which is humanity (greed, selfishness, self righteousness)

that is way that fantasy that you wrote does not work for all. You lady luck smiled upon you and saved you from poverty, but that doesn't mean every has the chance to get out of tough situations. you see I know people who are better suited than me to live this comfortable life.

the reason why they cannot enjoy is because the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the powerful become more ambitious, the enslaved are further oppressed

and the reason is because no matter the system the man can come up with they always cater to those principles.

sadly that is is a cycle that is non Escapable, for all systems create a balance of oppression that cannot be tipped
Valkyrie1981's avatar
IT work in America for 120 years. Lost under Rosevelt and the New Deal.

It is possible to do it, however humanity seems that it takes a great war to shake things up. It is odd that War would be the answer to checks and balances, but history tuaght us it is.

I see in America's future a very bad war with Latin America, which will kill around 20 million.

Its simply Humanity we can't really argue it or try to avoid it... Its life, I don't want it, but it will happen, and trying to avoid it is just as bad as letting it happen. Welcome to Humanity, we just have to make deal and shoot for the "Utopia" as you call it.
first time i have to disagree

humanity can be be avoid, didn't the being Yahweh, God, Allah, (actually I'm a buddhist) or evolution give man reason to override that flawed nature

the utopia I envision is when true evil (ignorance and Intolerance) is
rid from men's mind

but sadly that will never happen because the unthinking mass that produces problem will never understand
Valkyrie1981's avatar
"For after all what is man in nature? A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing. A central point in between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either."

The only place your utopia exsists in in heaven. God never garanteed us peace on earth, just hope, and faith. For it will not be until the end of days that man finally can live in such peace. Until then, we need soldiers, we need knights, we need heros... We will always need those rough men to stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm.

Balancem as a buddhist you must understand this, for on this world we must have balance, in all things.
I enjoyed this "conversation" and hope to have one like this in the near future

I'm sad it took you to long to reply :(

but if what you said is right, and the "utopia" i envision is heaven i will never see it, for i have turned back to "God" when I converted, and if anything, I am destined to hell

What is god to you?
Valkyrie1981's avatar
Sorry for the long post, there was a death in the family.


You are not destined for hell, you did not turn your back on God. Humans take such a literal approach to his word. What is god? God is many things, love, happiness, kindness, togetherness and hope.


In my religion it is said that “Throw him is the path of heaven.” People think that through him is “Jesus Christ” but what is in a name? Jesus was just a man, the great message as even he put it was great then himself. If you are love, happiness, kindness, togetherness, you are walking the path to heaven, whatever you heaven might be.


For you it is on this world. You live your hell and heaven on earth. Buddhists teaching from what I can remember from my teachings. Your future existence is conditioned by the last thought-moment of your experiences at the point of death. This last thought which determines the next existence results from the past actions of a man either in this life or before that. Is that heaven or hell, that is a matter of perspective. I feel you are a good person in life and in heart. You are destined for heaven in my book.