Comment on christian nation by wquon
The majority of the Founding Fathers were not Christian in fact they were Agnostic and some of them leading towards Atheism. They wanted the government and stage to be SEPARATED due to the treatment of how Religion was FORCED upon them in a certain previous country.
Christianity did not brought freedom to America did.
People did and sadly whetever or not you like it. Violence was also an important root to America's orgin.
Christianity did not brought freedom to America did.
People did and sadly whetever or not you like it. Violence was also an important root to America's orgin.
Here's an excerpt from an article, and I will leave the link if you wish to read the full article. The author is David Barton.
"John Adams himself declared that the Rev. Dr. Jonathan Mayhew and the Rev. Dr. Samuel Cooper were two of the individuals “most conspicuous, the most ardent, and influential” in the “awakening and revival of American principles and feelings” that led to our independence. Other ministers whose influence and leadership were also important included the Rev. George Whitefield, the Rev. James Caldwell, the Rev. John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg with his brother the Rev. Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg, and many more. (The exploits of many of these ministers are recorded in several older historical works, including The Pulpit of the American Revolution, The Patriot Preachers of the American Revolution, and The Chaplains and Clergy of the Revolution.) Regrettably, today we don’t hear much about the role of the church – of ministers and Christians – in the founding of our civil government."
Here's the link. The article is brief.
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Also, as to the majority of the Founding Fathers not being Christian, over 54% were Episcopalian/Anglican, 18% were Presbyterian, 16% were Congregationalist, and then the rest were a mix of Quaker (4.3%), Dutch Reformed (3.7%), Lutheran (3.1%), Catholic (1.9%), Huguenot (1.9%), Unitarian (1.9%), Methodist (1.2%), and Calvinist (.6%). That adds up to a majority.
Here is the context for my findings, which you can peruse at your convenience. These were the men who stood up for our Freedom, and for most of them, what drove them was their determination not to give up their God-given rights. Christianity brought freedom to America. I'm sorry if you don't like it.
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"John Adams himself declared that the Rev. Dr. Jonathan Mayhew and the Rev. Dr. Samuel Cooper were two of the individuals “most conspicuous, the most ardent, and influential” in the “awakening and revival of American principles and feelings” that led to our independence. Other ministers whose influence and leadership were also important included the Rev. George Whitefield, the Rev. James Caldwell, the Rev. John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg with his brother the Rev. Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg, and many more. (The exploits of many of these ministers are recorded in several older historical works, including The Pulpit of the American Revolution, The Patriot Preachers of the American Revolution, and The Chaplains and Clergy of the Revolution.) Regrettably, today we don’t hear much about the role of the church – of ministers and Christians – in the founding of our civil government."
Here's the link. The article is brief.
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Also, as to the majority of the Founding Fathers not being Christian, over 54% were Episcopalian/Anglican, 18% were Presbyterian, 16% were Congregationalist, and then the rest were a mix of Quaker (4.3%), Dutch Reformed (3.7%), Lutheran (3.1%), Catholic (1.9%), Huguenot (1.9%), Unitarian (1.9%), Methodist (1.2%), and Calvinist (.6%). That adds up to a majority.
Here is the context for my findings, which you can peruse at your convenience. These were the men who stood up for our Freedom, and for most of them, what drove them was their determination not to give up their God-given rights. Christianity brought freedom to America. I'm sorry if you don't like it.
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yeah your first link is of a Christian BLOGGER. and a Speaker for a Christian group.
Please don't link BLOGs but read Articles that have been published and credited..
Its a little sad that the only proof you have is from some Internet Christian. I can link to you thousand of Atheist bloggers who disprove David every means but I am not going to do that since Bloggers aren't really a great example of history.
So sorry you are very biased and you need to step out of your comfort zone and maybe read less rants and articles on a Christian blogger who doesn't even seen to be quoted anywhere else for so far I have notice.
SHOW me some history page that is without biased and is crediting some historical records.
Please don't link BLOGs but read Articles that have been published and credited..
Its a little sad that the only proof you have is from some Internet Christian. I can link to you thousand of Atheist bloggers who disprove David every means but I am not going to do that since Bloggers aren't really a great example of history.
So sorry you are very biased and you need to step out of your comfort zone and maybe read less rants and articles on a Christian blogger who doesn't even seen to be quoted anywhere else for so far I have notice.
SHOW me some history page that is without biased and is crediting some historical records.
How is what you just wrote not a rant? But be that as it may, I have given my numbers. You have given none. Back up your statements on "the majority of the Founding Fathers being agnostic bordering on atheism." I have provided evidence, and your own bias refuses to accept it.
Sure I will, Just give me some time.
Your number doesn't mean anything as its nothing but just Christian blogger who can say whatever he wants,
Your number doesn't mean anything as its nothing but just Christian blogger who can say whatever he wants,
Did you even look at the second link?
I was pretty sure that was also that David Christian blogger.
My mistake was it something else?
My mistake was it something else?
The website is www.adherents.com. So no, it isn't David Barton. It gives the official religious affiliations for the signers of the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution. Here's the link again in case it didn't work last time. I'm sorry I wasn't clearer about where it came from earlier.
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