Comment on Qur'an, Bible, Torah -> Fiction by Zazill
1) I don't see your point, it doesn't matter what image I make of them the Bible still teaches the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Three persons, One God: Three persons.
2)"Islam is more monothesitc than Christianty" well thats your opinion based probably on the fact of Trinity which probably confuses you( But I am just guessing).
3)Bible teaches One God in Old testament just as much as New testament...
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This site, though I do not agree with everything it states, explains the Trinity clearly and breaks it down into "trinities" of nature.
2)"Islam is more monothesitc than Christianty" well thats your opinion based probably on the fact of Trinity which probably confuses you( But I am just guessing).
3)Bible teaches One God in Old testament just as much as New testament...
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This site, though I do not agree with everything it states, explains the Trinity clearly and breaks it down into "trinities" of nature.
1) So it is safe to say, you worship three PERSONS? That can still be defined as polytheism, (def-worship or belief in multiple deities).
We can replace deities with 'persons'.
Worship or belief in three persons.
Three = Poly.
Polytheism.
The Bible clearly says to worship ONE GOD.
Also, if the Trinity is a system of equality, all persons are equal, to make One God, then why does Prophet Jesus (as) say, “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28)???
Contradiction.
Father = Son = Holy Spirit
Or is it Father > Son = Holy Spirit
An imbalanced trinity?
What a concept that contradicts itself by its own Holy Book!
2) This is a no-brainer.
If you read the Qur'an, there are hundreds of verses that you just keep repeating, talking about the Oneness of God, and it also denies the divinity of Jesus (as), or ANY other human being.
The Qur'an reconfirms the true concept of the One God that the Christians back then fell astray to, the man-made concept of Trinity.
God had helped Muhammad (saw) succeed in his mission, and now Islam is the fastest growing religion on Earth, which means more people every day are rejecting their false Gods, rejecting polytheism and idolatry, rejecting the divinity of any prophet of God, rejecting disbelief, and turning SOLELY to the ONE ETERNAL HIDDEN CREATOR.
Jesus (as) called this God, Ilah, in Aramaic, the language he spoke.
Muhammad (saw) called this God, Allah, in Arabic, the language he spoke.
BOTH of these prophets of God worshiped the same Lord, both preached the same message.
Jesus (as) used the word 'Father' and 'Son' as metaphors. The Father is simply God, and 'Son' means servant of God, and Jesus (as) used it not only for himself, but ANYONE who claims to be a servant of God.
It is written in the Bible, Jesus (as) says. "Blessed be the peacemakers, for they are the sons of God."
If Jesus (as) were to be alive today, he would reject the Christian doctrines today, as they completely contradict his message and the truth.
Jesus (as) prayed like Muslims, he prostrated on the ground, confirmed by the Bible. He kept a beard like noble Muslim men. He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights, just like the Muslims fast on Ramadan. His mother, Mary (as) observed the headscarf, just search it on Google, Muslim women also follow this practice and wear the headscarf, known as the Hijab in Arabic.
If people saw Jesus (as) and his family walking on the streets today, and seeing the acts and practices of them, people will say that they are Muslims.
3) You see, you are simply trying to defend a man-made concept from OUTSIDE sources rather than the Bible.
If the Bible was the pure word of God, then that means that the Bible, the pure word of God, should be ENOUGH, to explain the concept of trinity, but apparently, no, that isn't the case. You will never be able to support the trinity with the Bible alone. You have to start making up analogies from outside natural creations and systems to add some spice to your concept.
The Qur'an however, is ENOUGH to explain the concept of the Oneness of God, AND enough to reject all other types of beliefs and concepts and misunderstandings about God, including the trinity.
I want you to refute these 10 reasons why Jesus (as) is not God.
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We can replace deities with 'persons'.
Worship or belief in three persons.
Three = Poly.
Polytheism.
The Bible clearly says to worship ONE GOD.
Also, if the Trinity is a system of equality, all persons are equal, to make One God, then why does Prophet Jesus (as) say, “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28)???
Contradiction.
Father = Son = Holy Spirit
Or is it Father > Son = Holy Spirit
An imbalanced trinity?
What a concept that contradicts itself by its own Holy Book!
2) This is a no-brainer.
If you read the Qur'an, there are hundreds of verses that you just keep repeating, talking about the Oneness of God, and it also denies the divinity of Jesus (as), or ANY other human being.
The Qur'an reconfirms the true concept of the One God that the Christians back then fell astray to, the man-made concept of Trinity.
God had helped Muhammad (saw) succeed in his mission, and now Islam is the fastest growing religion on Earth, which means more people every day are rejecting their false Gods, rejecting polytheism and idolatry, rejecting the divinity of any prophet of God, rejecting disbelief, and turning SOLELY to the ONE ETERNAL HIDDEN CREATOR.
Jesus (as) called this God, Ilah, in Aramaic, the language he spoke.
Muhammad (saw) called this God, Allah, in Arabic, the language he spoke.
BOTH of these prophets of God worshiped the same Lord, both preached the same message.
Jesus (as) used the word 'Father' and 'Son' as metaphors. The Father is simply God, and 'Son' means servant of God, and Jesus (as) used it not only for himself, but ANYONE who claims to be a servant of God.
It is written in the Bible, Jesus (as) says. "Blessed be the peacemakers, for they are the sons of God."
If Jesus (as) were to be alive today, he would reject the Christian doctrines today, as they completely contradict his message and the truth.
Jesus (as) prayed like Muslims, he prostrated on the ground, confirmed by the Bible. He kept a beard like noble Muslim men. He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights, just like the Muslims fast on Ramadan. His mother, Mary (as) observed the headscarf, just search it on Google, Muslim women also follow this practice and wear the headscarf, known as the Hijab in Arabic.
If people saw Jesus (as) and his family walking on the streets today, and seeing the acts and practices of them, people will say that they are Muslims.
3) You see, you are simply trying to defend a man-made concept from OUTSIDE sources rather than the Bible.
If the Bible was the pure word of God, then that means that the Bible, the pure word of God, should be ENOUGH, to explain the concept of trinity, but apparently, no, that isn't the case. You will never be able to support the trinity with the Bible alone. You have to start making up analogies from outside natural creations and systems to add some spice to your concept.
The Qur'an however, is ENOUGH to explain the concept of the Oneness of God, AND enough to reject all other types of beliefs and concepts and misunderstandings about God, including the trinity.
I want you to refute these 10 reasons why Jesus (as) is not God.
[link]
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Did you even look at the link?
-Three Persons, One God=Monotheism
-Jesus was acknowledging the fact he was a man, he has two natures and is still equally divine.
I am not wasting my time with the other part of this large text please summarize, and no not wasting my time with your link.
Did you even look at the link?
-Three Persons, One God=Monotheism
-Jesus was acknowledging the fact he was a man, he has two natures and is still equally divine.
I am not wasting my time with the other part of this large text please summarize, and no not wasting my time with your link.
Nonononononono, you can forget the text, and just focus on the link that I gave you.
No matter what you say, I won't accept your ideology of monotheism.
God's nature is ONE. He doesn't have multiple natures.
Click that link, it may just change your way of thinking.
No matter what you say, I won't accept your ideology of monotheism.
God's nature is ONE. He doesn't have multiple natures.
Click that link, it may just change your way of thinking.
No...
God says that He is nothing like His creation.
Therefore, you cannot prove the Trinity to me by giving me EXAMPLES from nature.
Disregarding that bit, that video has opened eyes of thousands of Christians that watched it, you may be scared that it will change yours. However, my mission is only to convey the message of truth.
Adam (as), Abraham (as), Joseph (as), Ezekiel (as), Jacob (as), Noah (as), Moses (as), Muhammad (saw), and ALL the other prophets of God, INCLUDING Jesus (as), preached the message of ONE God.
There was no trinity preached by Adam (as), or Abraham (as), the father of the 3 Abrahamic religions, nor was it taught by the prophet before Jesus (as) whom was Moses (as) and his brother whom was also a prophet, Aaron (as).
No prophet taught trinity, oh but now all of a sudden, Jesus (as) says God is now three, has three persons, HOWEVER you want to define it. You are attributing MULTIPLE natures with God in DIFFERENT forms/images.
This isn't ONE God anymore.
Like I said, Islam remains to be the strongest monotheistic faith on the face of the Earth. Even if Christianity is considered a monotheistic faith, Islam is still 'more' monotheistic than Christianity, because there is no trinity or associating of partners or anything like that in Islam.
The concept of God is simple, God is One, He has no sons or daughters, nor does he have parents.
God is an infinite everlasting powerful being whose presence is OUTSIDE the boundaries of His creation.
Jesus (as) was a mortal man made of flesh and bones, he ate, he slept, he drank, he felt pain, grief, sorrow, loss of hope, anxiety, and anger like any other human. If he hadn't of eaten or slept, he would have died! And God cannot die, He is an everlasting infinite being.
All of this is coming from that video.
The video shows 10 points that you cannot deny. A former Christian minister that has converted to Islam is an EXPERT at Christianity.
You can ask him any question regarding Christianity, and he will give you the best answer, but he ain't Christian, he's a Muslim, and he knows every itty bitty flaw that exists in Christianity, that is why he is a Muslim.
He has been guided by God to a straighter path, to BRING people to the straight path.
Islam continues to be the fastest growing religion.
The Qur'an is the most recited religious scripture in the world today, with millions around the world having memorized it ALL cover to cover, ranging from old men and women to children as young as 7!
What a miracle.
Your God, My God, Our God, mankind's God, has called ALL of His servants.
IF you believe that you are a SERVANT of The God, IF you believe that you are on the side of truth, then please, DO me a favor, and go pray. THIS is the fundamental basic practice of ALL religions.
Pray to God alone, in your room, wherever that you may feel comfortable. PROSTRATE on the ground, like JESUS (as) did. Prostrate and pray to God to reveal to you the TRUTH.
Do not say anything about religion, do not say anything about the form of God, just simply ask God to reveal to you the ultimate truth, and guide you to the straight path.
God loves consistency, and you must be patient, because if you show God you are patient, then He WILL give you the answer.
God will test you. I am telling you, do YOU really want to know what the truth is? Then you have to SHOW God that you care and you WANT to know what the TRUTH is. Pretend that you are an Atheist begging to be guided by God, forget what religion you are a part of, simply say GOD, do not mention specific names, simply say God, or Lord.
Prostrate and pray, and ask God to reveal to you the truth, and guide you to the straight path, and keep doing it UNTIL God decides the proper time to answer you.
You must be patient, don't expect an answer within the first day, because God WANTS to try you and test your patience, He wants to see your willingness and dedication towards your prayer. If you give up after a few days, then God will just say that you weren't worthy of receiving His answer anyway, you have up too soon, so you really DON'T want to know the truth anyway and you don't want to be guided.
So pray to God and tell Him to reveal to you the truth and guide you to the straight path.
When God FINALLY answers you, He WILL show you what is the truth, He will DISTINGUISH the right from wrong.
I pray to God 5 times a day, every day, every week, every month, every year, until the day I die I'll be doing this. This is standard Muslim practice, we simply say 'God' in our prayers, so WHICHEVER God is out there right now, He HAS to hear us, because WE are calling on Him by HIS general title, GOD. God is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing, can we say that God cannot hear our prayers? Can we say that God cannot hear the prayers of the billions of Muslims that pray to Him every day? Can we say that God ignores the prayers of ALL those who pray to Him and turn to Him every day?
Of course not, because this is part of God's NATURE. He CANNOT just stop listening to a person, ESPECIALLY when they are praying DIRECTLY to Him.
God hears EVERY prayer from EVERY individual, despite their religion or faith.
The closer you are to the true belief however, the higher regard of God accepting and answering your prayers.
So my friend, simply pray to God and ask Him to reveal to you the truth.
If you are confident that you are completely on the path of truth, then God will bring about signs that will confirm it.
BUT...if you see that the signs of God are OPPOSITE to what you were expecting, then DON'T shun it away and ignore it, God doesn't like that you pray for truth and then when He shows it, you ignore it.
God will reveal to you the truth if you pray to Him to show you it, and whatever that truth ends up becoming, if you are a true servant of God, then you should and will accept it without question.
There is a reason Islam is the fastest growing religion, we actually pray...for our people, and all of mankind.
Peace.
Therefore, you cannot prove the Trinity to me by giving me EXAMPLES from nature.
Disregarding that bit, that video has opened eyes of thousands of Christians that watched it, you may be scared that it will change yours. However, my mission is only to convey the message of truth.
Adam (as), Abraham (as), Joseph (as), Ezekiel (as), Jacob (as), Noah (as), Moses (as), Muhammad (saw), and ALL the other prophets of God, INCLUDING Jesus (as), preached the message of ONE God.
There was no trinity preached by Adam (as), or Abraham (as), the father of the 3 Abrahamic religions, nor was it taught by the prophet before Jesus (as) whom was Moses (as) and his brother whom was also a prophet, Aaron (as).
No prophet taught trinity, oh but now all of a sudden, Jesus (as) says God is now three, has three persons, HOWEVER you want to define it. You are attributing MULTIPLE natures with God in DIFFERENT forms/images.
This isn't ONE God anymore.
Like I said, Islam remains to be the strongest monotheistic faith on the face of the Earth. Even if Christianity is considered a monotheistic faith, Islam is still 'more' monotheistic than Christianity, because there is no trinity or associating of partners or anything like that in Islam.
The concept of God is simple, God is One, He has no sons or daughters, nor does he have parents.
God is an infinite everlasting powerful being whose presence is OUTSIDE the boundaries of His creation.
Jesus (as) was a mortal man made of flesh and bones, he ate, he slept, he drank, he felt pain, grief, sorrow, loss of hope, anxiety, and anger like any other human. If he hadn't of eaten or slept, he would have died! And God cannot die, He is an everlasting infinite being.
All of this is coming from that video.
The video shows 10 points that you cannot deny. A former Christian minister that has converted to Islam is an EXPERT at Christianity.
You can ask him any question regarding Christianity, and he will give you the best answer, but he ain't Christian, he's a Muslim, and he knows every itty bitty flaw that exists in Christianity, that is why he is a Muslim.
He has been guided by God to a straighter path, to BRING people to the straight path.
Islam continues to be the fastest growing religion.
The Qur'an is the most recited religious scripture in the world today, with millions around the world having memorized it ALL cover to cover, ranging from old men and women to children as young as 7!
What a miracle.
Your God, My God, Our God, mankind's God, has called ALL of His servants.
IF you believe that you are a SERVANT of The God, IF you believe that you are on the side of truth, then please, DO me a favor, and go pray. THIS is the fundamental basic practice of ALL religions.
Pray to God alone, in your room, wherever that you may feel comfortable. PROSTRATE on the ground, like JESUS (as) did. Prostrate and pray to God to reveal to you the TRUTH.
Do not say anything about religion, do not say anything about the form of God, just simply ask God to reveal to you the ultimate truth, and guide you to the straight path.
God loves consistency, and you must be patient, because if you show God you are patient, then He WILL give you the answer.
God will test you. I am telling you, do YOU really want to know what the truth is? Then you have to SHOW God that you care and you WANT to know what the TRUTH is. Pretend that you are an Atheist begging to be guided by God, forget what religion you are a part of, simply say GOD, do not mention specific names, simply say God, or Lord.
Prostrate and pray, and ask God to reveal to you the truth, and guide you to the straight path, and keep doing it UNTIL God decides the proper time to answer you.
You must be patient, don't expect an answer within the first day, because God WANTS to try you and test your patience, He wants to see your willingness and dedication towards your prayer. If you give up after a few days, then God will just say that you weren't worthy of receiving His answer anyway, you have up too soon, so you really DON'T want to know the truth anyway and you don't want to be guided.
So pray to God and tell Him to reveal to you the truth and guide you to the straight path.
When God FINALLY answers you, He WILL show you what is the truth, He will DISTINGUISH the right from wrong.
I pray to God 5 times a day, every day, every week, every month, every year, until the day I die I'll be doing this. This is standard Muslim practice, we simply say 'God' in our prayers, so WHICHEVER God is out there right now, He HAS to hear us, because WE are calling on Him by HIS general title, GOD. God is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing, can we say that God cannot hear our prayers? Can we say that God cannot hear the prayers of the billions of Muslims that pray to Him every day? Can we say that God ignores the prayers of ALL those who pray to Him and turn to Him every day?
Of course not, because this is part of God's NATURE. He CANNOT just stop listening to a person, ESPECIALLY when they are praying DIRECTLY to Him.
God hears EVERY prayer from EVERY individual, despite their religion or faith.
The closer you are to the true belief however, the higher regard of God accepting and answering your prayers.
So my friend, simply pray to God and ask Him to reveal to you the truth.
If you are confident that you are completely on the path of truth, then God will bring about signs that will confirm it.
BUT...if you see that the signs of God are OPPOSITE to what you were expecting, then DON'T shun it away and ignore it, God doesn't like that you pray for truth and then when He shows it, you ignore it.
God will reveal to you the truth if you pray to Him to show you it, and whatever that truth ends up becoming, if you are a true servant of God, then you should and will accept it without question.
There is a reason Islam is the fastest growing religion, we actually pray...for our people, and all of mankind.
Peace.