Comment on Looking for a used tablet by MimiKraw
Yup, use one fairly often 
used the monoprice too. For the OP's purposes and budget the monoprice should be the same as an intuos 4 for all practical purposes.
The pen on the Monoprice is the biggest difference but that's something easy to live with if you're trying to save money. When you're going cheap for cheap hardware sometimes you have to compromise.
used the monoprice too. For the OP's purposes and budget the monoprice should be the same as an intuos 4 for all practical purposes. The pen on the Monoprice is the biggest difference but that's something easy to live with if you're trying to save money. When you're going cheap for cheap hardware sometimes you have to compromise.
Well the OP seems to disagree with you, seems like s/he wants/needs a professional-grade tablet, in which case a used intuos is a much better option than some unknown cheapo model.
Thanks! I found a cheap new intuos 4, thanks a lot for your help! xxxxx
no probs, enjoy your tablet.
You saying Monoprice isn't well-known is like someone saying that Linux isn't well known. I'm actually a little bit shocked you don't know of them, what with your usual hatred of large companies charging premiums for their brand names being slapped on products with identical features.
The OP disagrees only because the OP doesn't know what she's talking about and has too much brand loyalty to think clearly about this. She can't afford an intuos 5 by a long shot and unless she gets lucky she isn't going to be able to afford a good quality intuos 4 either. That leaves her with heavily used 4's or 3's. Any 3's on the market are going to be heavily used by now and the monoprice tablets are better then them to begin with. So if that's her goal then Monoprice would be a better choice.
Intuos 4's are best known for their ability to get scratched to hell and back with heavy use. A heavily used intuos 4 is going to be on its last legs and will last her a year if she's lucky. She'll likely be looking at replacing the tablet surface and the pen to make the thing useable to any sort of professional standard at that point. Again, seriously considering the monoprice would be a better option in that case.
I suggest the monoprice because it is the highest-rated and most known tablet to have the UL Logic digitizers, which are known to be good. They're hard to get in the English speaking world though and Monoprice is a an amazing company for that type of stuff. If I remember correctly they even have a warehouse in the UK so shipping won't break her budget (which it would if she tried to buy a used tablet from anywhere else).
You'll find that forum regulars around here know a lot about tablets. They're a common topic
The OP disagrees only because the OP doesn't know what she's talking about and has too much brand loyalty to think clearly about this. She can't afford an intuos 5 by a long shot and unless she gets lucky she isn't going to be able to afford a good quality intuos 4 either. That leaves her with heavily used 4's or 3's. Any 3's on the market are going to be heavily used by now and the monoprice tablets are better then them to begin with. So if that's her goal then Monoprice would be a better choice.
Intuos 4's are best known for their ability to get scratched to hell and back with heavy use. A heavily used intuos 4 is going to be on its last legs and will last her a year if she's lucky. She'll likely be looking at replacing the tablet surface and the pen to make the thing useable to any sort of professional standard at that point. Again, seriously considering the monoprice would be a better option in that case.
I suggest the monoprice because it is the highest-rated and most known tablet to have the UL Logic digitizers, which are known to be good. They're hard to get in the English speaking world though and Monoprice is a an amazing company for that type of stuff. If I remember correctly they even have a warehouse in the UK so shipping won't break her budget (which it would if she tried to buy a used tablet from anywhere else).
You'll find that forum regulars around here know a lot about tablets. They're a common topic
Intuos4 scratching isn't really that much of an issue because you can get surface overlays for them. Really any tablet gets some amount of wear but the ability to change the surface mitigates this problem. The surface overlays aren't even that expensive so I don't see why it's an issue for you.
I got my used intuos4 for €200 with a 2 year warranty and free shipping from the wacom store. No visible wear or anything, in fact the thing looks brand new.
Also wacom tablets have the best linux support, they in fact have some features that only work on linux so far. You can set custom images on the led displays on linux which afaik you still can't do on windows. That alone makes wacom the best choice in my opinion.
I got my used intuos4 for €200 with a 2 year warranty and free shipping from the wacom store. No visible wear or anything, in fact the thing looks brand new.
Also wacom tablets have the best linux support, they in fact have some features that only work on linux so far. You can set custom images on the led displays on linux which afaik you still can't do on windows. That alone makes wacom the best choice in my opinion.
A new (or like new) Wacom is totally the best choice, I'm not arguing that. I just don't think the OP's budget is going to allow that. I think she should consider other brands to decide what's going to work best for her. I don't think she's going to be able to find a refurb floor model of an intuos 4 anymore as they've been sold out and very few of them (if any) are really going to come back in stock. If you can find her a used intuos 4 in her budget then she should be all set. She can't find any in her budget so I'm still saying she should look at other brands when deciding between a used 3 and something new.
Although, you could just sell her your used intuos 4 cheap and buy yourself an intuos 5. Actually, that's not a bad idea problem solved for everyone.
It's foolish to discount tablets simply because they aren't Wacom. Again, it would be exactly like someone saying that they wouldn't even consider an OS that wasn't made by Microsoft. The Monoprice tablets are well known and high quality. There is no reason she shouldn't be considering them.
Although, you could just sell her your used intuos 4 cheap and buy yourself an intuos 5. Actually, that's not a bad idea
problem solved for everyone.It's foolish to discount tablets simply because they aren't Wacom. Again, it would be exactly like someone saying that they wouldn't even consider an OS that wasn't made by Microsoft. The Monoprice tablets are well known and high quality. There is no reason she shouldn't be considering them.
They were sold out last fall, they recently came back and were quickly sold out again. They will come back in stock again, if they wouldn't, they wouldn't still keep the link in the e-store, the one which has the option to "notify me when they come back in stock again".
And the OP seems to have already bought a used intuos4, so this discussion is getting pointless.
I also don't discount tablets just because they aren't wacom. When someone comes up with a tablet that is the same quality as intuos4 or intuos5, that have the same level of driver support, I'll consider them. And a pen that doesn't need batteries. And don't give me any about wacom's "patented tech" either, that patent is most likely not enforceable in court, because nikola tesla already came up with the remote induction tech back in the 19th century.
And the OP seems to have already bought a used intuos4, so this discussion is getting pointless.
I also don't discount tablets just because they aren't wacom. When someone comes up with a tablet that is the same quality as intuos4 or intuos5, that have the same level of driver support, I'll consider them. And a pen that doesn't need batteries. And don't give me any about wacom's "patented tech" either, that patent is most likely not enforceable in court, because nikola tesla already came up with the remote induction tech back in the 19th century.
Discussion with you is always pointless. Also, it's been almost a week since the OP bought a tablet, so I'm not sure why you're still on about this.
Also, just a side note, Faraday discovered induction, not Tesla. Not that it matters since there are other companies with pens that don't need batteries and Wacom doesn't own rights to induction.
Also, just a side note, Faraday discovered induction, not Tesla. Not that it matters since there are other companies with pens that don't need batteries and Wacom doesn't own rights to induction.
I'm responding to your posts. If you don't want your posts to be responded, why write them in the first place? If it's so pointless, what are you doing in this discussion? So either just ignore my posts or get off your high horse. Stop feeding drugs to that poor horse, it's already so high, it doesn't even know what's going on.
Doesn't matter, Tesla still patented transfer of electricity using this method, which is what the wacom patent is basically about. [link]
And yes, there are other tablets using the same tech, which just proves my point - there's no excuse for tablets that still use pens with batteries. I'd never get a tablet that requires batteries, this is 2013 after all.
Like I said, if some other tablet manufacturer makes a tablet that is equal in quality and driver support to intuos4/5, I'll consider it. So far I haven't seen one.
Doesn't matter, Tesla still patented transfer of electricity using this method, which is what the wacom patent is basically about. [link]
And yes, there are other tablets using the same tech, which just proves my point - there's no excuse for tablets that still use pens with batteries. I'd never get a tablet that requires batteries, this is 2013 after all.
Like I said, if some other tablet manufacturer makes a tablet that is equal in quality and driver support to intuos4/5, I'll consider it. So far I haven't seen one.
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I found a new and cheap intuos 4, thanks guys!
Neat, lucky find
I'm not going for a cheap tablet, I want the best for the best price, it's being smart.
If you were being reasonable then you would take a serious look at the monoprice. Buying a new tablet is vastly preferable to buying a used tablet. Especially buying used second hand. The value of tablets drop insanely quickly and you would be a fool if you forgot to factor in support and warranty. You're looking to buy off DA where you would have no recourse if someone just sent you a broken tablet.
Realistically you're looking at getting a heavily used and abused intuos 4 or a really old used intuos 3 for what your budget seems to be. The Monoprice tablets are known to be quite good, better than intuos 3's for sure and I would argue much better than heavily used intuos 4s. Being smart would include looking at other brands that fit into your price range and still work very well.
Realistically you're looking at getting a heavily used and abused intuos 4 or a really old used intuos 3 for what your budget seems to be. The Monoprice tablets are known to be quite good, better than intuos 3's for sure and I would argue much better than heavily used intuos 4s. Being smart would include looking at other brands that fit into your price range and still work very well.