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Ah. I remember you...
That girl, whose art and style I thought were pretty cute, up until I saw some of the things you had posted.
I'm extremely forgiving... But that kind of narcissistic behaviour is hard for me to get past by. There are so many incredibly talented people out there, who achieved so much in their lives, - and even they're much more modest about it.
Modesty is attractive.
While what you did, was basically insult every single artist who hasn't gone to art school, and made them feel like shit (myself included).
Oh, I forgot, - you don't even consider us 'artists'.
You know the way I see it? I think self-thaught artists are actually just as much, if not more, admirable. Because they went through the whole insanely hard and tedious process of learning everything (shadowing, anatomy, proportions and etc.) by themselves. WITHOUT paying someone to 'put' all the required information in their heads.
We had to teach ourselves everything. And it takes years, sometimes decades, to grow that way.
While an art school is basically a 'shortcut', in a way.
I know you already posted an 'apology' journal. But you still seem to have that mindset that tells you that you're far more superior than everyone else, just because you're a successful student in an art school...
Which is not right. We're all people.
We're all 'siblings' in this world.
Like I said, even people who have truly achieved admirable heights, are often very modest about it.
And that's what makes them so much more wonderful; even after achieving so much, they have still not forgotten how to be 'human'.
I have over 40 awards for all kinds of subjects and contests (not only art), as well; but I still feel like I'm shitty at almost everything. I'm just a human, afterall.
A little self-confidence won't hurt anyone... But belittling others, because they had not been able to attend the same places you have (which can be for multiple reasons, like financial hardships, for instance), - is not cool.
I was not trying to be rude. Just tried explaining my point of view in the least aggressive way possible.
Whether to read it or ignore it, is your choice.
And before you bash me for any grammatical mistakes that might have occurred (even though you make them from time to time as well, - heck, we all do), just letting you know that English is my third language. I'm actually Russian (born in Latvia though, and I wish I wasn't, lol).
That girl, whose art and style I thought were pretty cute, up until I saw some of the things you had posted.
I'm extremely forgiving... But that kind of narcissistic behaviour is hard for me to get past by. There are so many incredibly talented people out there, who achieved so much in their lives, - and even they're much more modest about it.
Modesty is attractive.
While what you did, was basically insult every single artist who hasn't gone to art school, and made them feel like shit (myself included).
Oh, I forgot, - you don't even consider us 'artists'.
You know the way I see it? I think self-thaught artists are actually just as much, if not more, admirable. Because they went through the whole insanely hard and tedious process of learning everything (shadowing, anatomy, proportions and etc.) by themselves. WITHOUT paying someone to 'put' all the required information in their heads.
We had to teach ourselves everything. And it takes years, sometimes decades, to grow that way.
While an art school is basically a 'shortcut', in a way.
I know you already posted an 'apology' journal. But you still seem to have that mindset that tells you that you're far more superior than everyone else, just because you're a successful student in an art school...
Which is not right. We're all people.
We're all 'siblings' in this world.
Like I said, even people who have truly achieved admirable heights, are often very modest about it.
And that's what makes them so much more wonderful; even after achieving so much, they have still not forgotten how to be 'human'.
I have over 40 awards for all kinds of subjects and contests (not only art), as well; but I still feel like I'm shitty at almost everything. I'm just a human, afterall.
A little self-confidence won't hurt anyone... But belittling others, because they had not been able to attend the same places you have (which can be for multiple reasons, like financial hardships, for instance), - is not cool.
I was not trying to be rude. Just tried explaining my point of view in the least aggressive way possible.
Whether to read it or ignore it, is your choice.
And before you bash me for any grammatical mistakes that might have occurred (even though you make them from time to time as well, - heck, we all do), just letting you know that English is my third language. I'm actually Russian (born in Latvia though, and I wish I wasn't, lol).
And, you could have told me that by noting me. It's kinda, like, rude to remind the whole waste of time and drama to me in my very own profile.
I'm not gonna beat a dead horse and try to explain myself anymore-
Just know one thing about me,
I would /never/ do and/or say such things out of the blue, without a reason.
And- Oh, I almost forgot, another thing,
'Jealousy' ( I don't even know what I'm supposed to be jealous of ) isn't a reason, since it's out of my nature. ^^
Anyway, have a nice day/evening!
Just know one thing about me,
I would /never/ do and/or say such things out of the blue, without a reason.
And- Oh, I almost forgot, another thing,
'Jealousy' ( I don't even know what I'm supposed to be jealous of ) isn't a reason, since it's out of my nature. ^^
Anyway, have a nice day/evening!
I would have done it privately, if you had done the same thing in the first place.
But you keep saying offensive things, and telling everyone you're better than them because of the art school thing, - and you do not seem to do so privately. So why should I?
I treat people the way they treat others. And me. If they insult me, am I supposed to sit around like a sadsack and say nothing?
Not too fair, in my opinion.
And who said anything about jealousy? Where did you get that from? Or were you just trying to make me feel worthless by that statement?
Because I could see that you're definitely not the type of person to be jealous of anyone, because of your 'god'-complex; so I wasn't even implying that.
Such people usually think the world revolves around them, even when they actually have nothing to be proud of (not implying that you don't).
Just saying that such behavior is not a good start to anything.
And that you should've been more respectful towards others yourself, if you want that kind of treatment in return.
Thank you for the wish, if it's not sarcasm, and likewise.
But you keep saying offensive things, and telling everyone you're better than them because of the art school thing, - and you do not seem to do so privately. So why should I?
I treat people the way they treat others. And me. If they insult me, am I supposed to sit around like a sadsack and say nothing?
Not too fair, in my opinion.
And who said anything about jealousy? Where did you get that from? Or were you just trying to make me feel worthless by that statement?
Because I could see that you're definitely not the type of person to be jealous of anyone, because of your 'god'-complex; so I wasn't even implying that.
Such people usually think the world revolves around them, even when they actually have nothing to be proud of (not implying that you don't).
Just saying that such behavior is not a good start to anything.
And that you should've been more respectful towards others yourself, if you want that kind of treatment in return.
Thank you for the wish, if it's not sarcasm, and likewise.
I'm not a narcissistic person, at all. Nor do I have a 'god-complex'. You've mistaken me as Nine, I suppose.
The person who jıdged and threatened innocent people, luckily, I befriended one. And he's a really nice person and he told me he did /nothing/ wrong. All Nine did was claiming what /is/ art and what is not. Which she should not do since she can't even improve anymore.
Oh, and, my 'narcissism' was offensive?
The actual offensive thing is posting a badly drawn cat for an example, saying 'Don't ask me for AT if you draw like this'. Can you imagine how much loss of confide ce new artists lost?
And, I gotta mention, I got no problem with being a hobbyist, but I'm against behaving like a godess, claiming to fight for colors and justice meanwhile the only thing she did was harassing people. That's definitely not helping since those people were highly offended and broken. More damage? Of course; She went to her own page, crying her eyes out about that and basically did let her watchers on me. Wow.
More?
The next day she mocked me, the next next day she made a comic about me and my friends. More wow.
And, when my friends heard that, they wanted to defend me like Nine's waychers and friends did for her. But as she claims, they are my bitches/lovers.
And she complained about Turkey- I think she should take a look at a history book.
Anyway, I DID treat her the way she treated others. Just like you're doing now. Also, about privacy, they replied to me like that in comments at the first place, meanwhile it was only a normal comment. It was actually a nice try. Instead of asking me why or noting me, they decided to overreact and insult me. So, why wouldn't I do the same thing? Another thing about me, I actually am shy and doubtful rather than narcissistic. So, the difference is, you don't know her, you don't know me, you don't know what happened between us. And the case was closed, beating a dead horse, pretty much. But I did reply to make you see that I only behaved the way she did. Yet, Nine is very successful at crying her eyes out, of course everybody would blame me. And, I don't think she will 'react' to my apology unless somebody corners her ego and talks about me as an example, like it happened with Royalei. Apologizig in notes and literally everywhere for the entire situation she had been in. But, again, Nine continuously talked about her, mocked and offended her, broke her-- Until somebody, me, cornered her with an amazing example and proof of her huge ego. What did she do? Cried her eyes out and apologized to her. I'm aware of what I have done, unlike her.
I'm not the one you should complain to- This is not even something you should talk about by just looking at the comments and such.
So, yes. What you did was judging me, congrats. ^^
I just- Honestly hope you won't insist to complain more about this.
And where did I get that 'jealousy' idea? Oh yes, innumerable friends and watchers of Nine called me jealous and sooo so so on. That's why.
It was no sarcasm. But I honestly tried to close this subject yesterday. Because the case is closed /already/ and it has nothing to do with you.
The person who jıdged and threatened innocent people, luckily, I befriended one. And he's a really nice person and he told me he did /nothing/ wrong. All Nine did was claiming what /is/ art and what is not. Which she should not do since she can't even improve anymore.
Oh, and, my 'narcissism' was offensive?
The actual offensive thing is posting a badly drawn cat for an example, saying 'Don't ask me for AT if you draw like this'. Can you imagine how much loss of confide ce new artists lost?
And, I gotta mention, I got no problem with being a hobbyist, but I'm against behaving like a godess, claiming to fight for colors and justice meanwhile the only thing she did was harassing people. That's definitely not helping since those people were highly offended and broken. More damage? Of course; She went to her own page, crying her eyes out about that and basically did let her watchers on me. Wow.
More?
The next day she mocked me, the next next day she made a comic about me and my friends. More wow.
And, when my friends heard that, they wanted to defend me like Nine's waychers and friends did for her. But as she claims, they are my bitches/lovers.
And she complained about Turkey- I think she should take a look at a history book.
Anyway, I DID treat her the way she treated others. Just like you're doing now. Also, about privacy, they replied to me like that in comments at the first place, meanwhile it was only a normal comment. It was actually a nice try. Instead of asking me why or noting me, they decided to overreact and insult me. So, why wouldn't I do the same thing? Another thing about me, I actually am shy and doubtful rather than narcissistic. So, the difference is, you don't know her, you don't know me, you don't know what happened between us. And the case was closed, beating a dead horse, pretty much. But I did reply to make you see that I only behaved the way she did. Yet, Nine is very successful at crying her eyes out, of course everybody would blame me. And, I don't think she will 'react' to my apology unless somebody corners her ego and talks about me as an example, like it happened with Royalei. Apologizig in notes and literally everywhere for the entire situation she had been in. But, again, Nine continuously talked about her, mocked and offended her, broke her-- Until somebody, me, cornered her with an amazing example and proof of her huge ego. What did she do? Cried her eyes out and apologized to her. I'm aware of what I have done, unlike her.
I'm not the one you should complain to- This is not even something you should talk about by just looking at the comments and such.
So, yes. What you did was judging me, congrats. ^^
I just- Honestly hope you won't insist to complain more about this.
And where did I get that 'jealousy' idea? Oh yes, innumerable friends and watchers of Nine called me jealous and sooo so so on. That's why.
It was no sarcasm. But I honestly tried to close this subject yesterday. Because the case is closed /already/ and it has nothing to do with you.
That's the thing. It has a TON to do with me, when you group all of us 'self-taughts' together and say that we'll never be able to improve or become 'true' artists. That's insulting. And it definitely comes across as narcissistic, no matter what you say.
Judging you? So saying Nine's work sucks and can't improve, as well as calling her man a pedophile when everything they do is completely fine and legal, was NOT judging from your side? That's interesting logic you have, indeed...
I know very well about what happened between you and Nine, but that is not why I am here, confronting you.
I already voiced my opinion about that on one of her journals, so I am not going to repeat it.
I am here because what you said is insulting to ALL of us, 'self-thaughts', who decided to choose the harder path and learn drawing without the help of an art school.
You should also understand that not all artists are willing to spend their time (usually at least several hours) drawing their part of an AT, when they receive something that looks like it took 5 minutes in return. When you're a grown-up yourself you'll understand that, as an adult, you simply will not have time to do such things.
So I understand why she would post something like that. Some kids have no shame, and keep nagging and begging for AT an requests non-stop, unless you finally let them know what you think about it. And, at times, you have to be a rude 'dick' to them, or they will not stop.
As for her alleged narcissistic behaviour, most of what she says is sarcasm, obviously.
So yeah, I really don't feel like arguing about this as well, as I have more important things to do; which is why my response took this long. Just letting you know that what you said was wrong and offensive, and not just to a single person, - but to at least half of all existing artists.
If you admit it, we can finally wrap this thing up and move on.
Judging you? So saying Nine's work sucks and can't improve, as well as calling her man a pedophile when everything they do is completely fine and legal, was NOT judging from your side? That's interesting logic you have, indeed...
I know very well about what happened between you and Nine, but that is not why I am here, confronting you.
I already voiced my opinion about that on one of her journals, so I am not going to repeat it.
I am here because what you said is insulting to ALL of us, 'self-thaughts', who decided to choose the harder path and learn drawing without the help of an art school.
You should also understand that not all artists are willing to spend their time (usually at least several hours) drawing their part of an AT, when they receive something that looks like it took 5 minutes in return. When you're a grown-up yourself you'll understand that, as an adult, you simply will not have time to do such things.
So I understand why she would post something like that. Some kids have no shame, and keep nagging and begging for AT an requests non-stop, unless you finally let them know what you think about it. And, at times, you have to be a rude 'dick' to them, or they will not stop.
As for her alleged narcissistic behaviour, most of what she says is sarcasm, obviously.
So yeah, I really don't feel like arguing about this as well, as I have more important things to do; which is why my response took this long. Just letting you know that what you said was wrong and offensive, and not just to a single person, - but to at least half of all existing artists.
If you admit it, we can finally wrap this thing up and move on.
Wow, good job. You failed once again.
I'm not gonna lie- I mean, 'admit' anything.
You have no idea about me, so, wow, it was truly stupid of me to tell you all of this.
And, it really has nothing to do with you because the case is over. You're just beating a dead horse over there, and expect me to say something that is NOT true, basically waiting for me to lie. But no, no no, I don't lie, especially when a person like you, who keeps insisting to beat that fucking dead horse.
Being a hobbyist, is the easy way, by the way.
Now, I'll return to my own business, I suggest you to do the same.
Because you're wasting your time, and you're also wasting my time.
I'm not gonna lie- I mean, 'admit' anything.
You have no idea about me, so, wow, it was truly stupid of me to tell you all of this.
And, it really has nothing to do with you because the case is over. You're just beating a dead horse over there, and expect me to say something that is NOT true, basically waiting for me to lie. But no, no no, I don't lie, especially when a person like you, who keeps insisting to beat that fucking dead horse.
Being a hobbyist, is the easy way, by the way.
Now, I'll return to my own business, I suggest you to do the same.
Because you're wasting your time, and you're also wasting my time.
Okay.
I've finally realized that you're one of those people who are impossible to reason with; and that you, indeed, are the prepubescent bratty little snob people say you are. It was honestly foolish of me to assume that someone half my age would be mature and understanding. But I've actually met young people like that before, so I was naive enough to hope you'd be one of them.
You did not address even HALF of the issues I've provided. All you're capable of doing is saying things like 'wow, you fail', 'being a self-thaught is easy' without a single friggin' argument to back up your opinion. Shows how much you know, and how primitive and immature your mindset is. But I suppose it's more than understandable, since you're just a little kid who's not old enough to even grasp the simple concept of a 'debate'.
You won't admit that you are not better than everyone else just because of an art school, and you say that you are modest and not narcissistic? Laughable.
It's not a 'dead fu**ing horse', when you still keep insisting that you're right about something that is clearly a product of a very flawed logic. It would be a 'dead horse' if you had admitted that you were wrong long ago, and I would still not calm down after that.
But, since you had done no such thing, it's only natural of me to attempt to stand my ground.
After seeing what you say and post, I don't NEED to know you in real life to see what kind of person you are.
Only a complete incompetent and ignorant prick would say that learning all the tedious techniques of drawing by yourself is easier than with the help of someone who you literally pay to shove that knowledge up your skull.
I AM an artist, - whether I have learned to be one myself or not. I've been paid amounts you have yet to only imagine, for my commissions. And I usually only ask about one third of what I'm being given in the end, - yet another proof of modesty being a virtue rather than a flaw.
So yeah, again, I don't need to know you personally, - I have seen enough. Even though this is a silly thing to point out, even your ID picture seems to scream 'bow down to be, because I'm obviously better than all of you'.
You are not compassionate enough to care about other people's feelings, whom you obviously wronged. My and their feelings are just a 'waste of time' to you.
Think whatever you want about yourself. You'll understand the sad truth someday.
We're all just 'ants' on this miserable planet and you're not, even by a millimetre, bigger than us.
Let's just hope you don't accidentally choke on your overwhelming self-pride one day.
At least you made me appreciate my little brother more; who's your age, smart and skilled in many aspects WITHOUT being a douchebag about it; instead he's very modest and kind to people, - and I'm proud of him for that
So kudos, - you're the first person to make me insult someone without even regretting it one bit
Oh, and by the way... At least most of us actually try doing poses without heavily referencing (which is almost the same thing as tracing) other people's work, haha. I never even considered doing that, unlike you.
Now let's see if you stoop so low as to make another account just to bug be
If you truly want this over with, you won't.
Anyway, peace
I've finally realized that you're one of those people who are impossible to reason with; and that you, indeed, are the prepubescent bratty little snob people say you are. It was honestly foolish of me to assume that someone half my age would be mature and understanding. But I've actually met young people like that before, so I was naive enough to hope you'd be one of them.
You did not address even HALF of the issues I've provided. All you're capable of doing is saying things like 'wow, you fail', 'being a self-thaught is easy' without a single friggin' argument to back up your opinion. Shows how much you know, and how primitive and immature your mindset is. But I suppose it's more than understandable, since you're just a little kid who's not old enough to even grasp the simple concept of a 'debate'.
You won't admit that you are not better than everyone else just because of an art school, and you say that you are modest and not narcissistic? Laughable.
It's not a 'dead fu**ing horse', when you still keep insisting that you're right about something that is clearly a product of a very flawed logic. It would be a 'dead horse' if you had admitted that you were wrong long ago, and I would still not calm down after that.
But, since you had done no such thing, it's only natural of me to attempt to stand my ground.
After seeing what you say and post, I don't NEED to know you in real life to see what kind of person you are.
Only a complete incompetent and ignorant prick would say that learning all the tedious techniques of drawing by yourself is easier than with the help of someone who you literally pay to shove that knowledge up your skull.
I AM an artist, - whether I have learned to be one myself or not. I've been paid amounts you have yet to only imagine, for my commissions. And I usually only ask about one third of what I'm being given in the end, - yet another proof of modesty being a virtue rather than a flaw.
So yeah, again, I don't need to know you personally, - I have seen enough. Even though this is a silly thing to point out, even your ID picture seems to scream 'bow down to be, because I'm obviously better than all of you'.
You are not compassionate enough to care about other people's feelings, whom you obviously wronged. My and their feelings are just a 'waste of time' to you.
Think whatever you want about yourself. You'll understand the sad truth someday.
We're all just 'ants' on this miserable planet and you're not, even by a millimetre, bigger than us.
Let's just hope you don't accidentally choke on your overwhelming self-pride one day.
At least you made me appreciate my little brother more; who's your age, smart and skilled in many aspects WITHOUT being a douchebag about it; instead he's very modest and kind to people, - and I'm proud of him for that
So kudos, - you're the first person to make me insult someone without even regretting it one bit
Oh, and by the way... At least most of us actually try doing poses without heavily referencing (which is almost the same thing as tracing) other people's work, haha. I never even considered doing that, unlike you.
Now let's see if you stoop so low as to make another account just to bug be
If you truly want this over with, you won't.
Anyway, peace
OH MY GOD......This is really beautiful.
You really prove it to her.
You really prove it to her.
