Comment on Justice for Peace by AnubisGraph
i dont think im in a position to answer that
But the people you want to put in charge will.
I was for their plight at first as well. However when they voted hamas, they did vote a terrorist organisation.
So while i completely disagree with Israel, i disagree even more with what Hamas wants: "Wipe Israel of the face of the map" as they call it.
The blade cuts two ways, only by remembering that can there be peace.
I was for their plight at first as well. However when they voted hamas, they did vote a terrorist organisation.
So while i completely disagree with Israel, i disagree even more with what Hamas wants: "Wipe Israel of the face of the map" as they call it.
The blade cuts two ways, only by remembering that can there be peace.
1st of all, to the ppl of Palestine and to me and to every arab and muslim, Hamas is the resistance, not "a terrorist organization" and the ppl vote proves that even more, to us Israel is the terrorist organization, and you can ask around, and as for the "Wipe Israel of the face of the map" i wounder why you see it as a strange thing for some one who is fighting to liberate his country from an invading army, no body is saying all israelis should be hanged and killed and thrown in the sea "even that most of them deserve that for all the monstrosity they did along 70 years" we just want justice and justice says the thief should give back what he stolen and they stole Palestine, it should be back. the same thing apply to the occupied Syrian Golan Heights, and Occupied lands of Lebanon, just think about it logically for a min not through what you hear in YOUR news channels but only through logic.
and by the way that blade thing, the Israelis should have thought about it long time ago when they started Killing Palestinians by the hundreds, and you can check History about that, again not what they want you to hear, look for the truth
Have a nice day
and by the way that blade thing, the Israelis should have thought about it long time ago when they started Killing Palestinians by the hundreds, and you can check History about that, again not what they want you to hear, look for the truth
Have a nice day
So what your saying, is that when Hamas by some mirracle is given the power, and would wipe Israel of the map, you would not be against it?
Even the ones that weren't born at that time?
Sadly THIS is why i cannot relate anymore to the Palestinian plight. Israel has claims to Jerusalem as well (it belonged to them before they were driven of by the arabs) and i'm pretty sure many Isreali were killed as well.
And if what your saying is right, that every muslim sees Hamas as the resistance, then i am even more worried about your peoples already damaged view of reality.
Hamas recently again killed hundreds of Fatah supporters, oppresses it's own people (apparently they don't even need Israel for that) And have arrested people for playing a Fatah tune cellphone.
If THAT is supposed to be your resistance, then i am starting to feel more drawn to the Israelian side.
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My grandfather fought against the Nazi, and while you keep saying that Israel has done attrocities against the Palestinians, they are nuns compared to what the Nazi did.
My grandfather was in the resistance, but we never once attacked innocents, not even the families of traitors or germans, and after we won the war we did not wipe Germany of the face of the earth.
Perhaps it is time you started wondering about your own views. Israel did make that blockade, but Hamas were the ones driving them so. I do not agree with it, but you can't keep seeing the Israeli as some sorts of monsters. In a conflict you have to see both sides. THAT is what Arafat did, and was succesfull in it for a while. Hamas isn't even close to being what he was.
Have a nice day yourself
Even the ones that weren't born at that time?
Sadly THIS is why i cannot relate anymore to the Palestinian plight. Israel has claims to Jerusalem as well (it belonged to them before they were driven of by the arabs) and i'm pretty sure many Isreali were killed as well.
And if what your saying is right, that every muslim sees Hamas as the resistance, then i am even more worried about your peoples already damaged view of reality.
Hamas recently again killed hundreds of Fatah supporters, oppresses it's own people (apparently they don't even need Israel for that) And have arrested people for playing a Fatah tune cellphone.
If THAT is supposed to be your resistance, then i am starting to feel more drawn to the Israelian side.
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My grandfather fought against the Nazi, and while you keep saying that Israel has done attrocities against the Palestinians, they are nuns compared to what the Nazi did.
My grandfather was in the resistance, but we never once attacked innocents, not even the families of traitors or germans, and after we won the war we did not wipe Germany of the face of the earth.
Perhaps it is time you started wondering about your own views. Israel did make that blockade, but Hamas were the ones driving them so. I do not agree with it, but you can't keep seeing the Israeli as some sorts of monsters. In a conflict you have to see both sides. THAT is what Arafat did, and was succesfull in it for a while. Hamas isn't even close to being what he was.
Have a nice day yourself
let me Quote from a previous conversation i had with an Israeli :
he says :look' i dont understand you are saying that israel is doing a war crims. but you justifies the attacks with suiaceiding?
there is a reasion for everything we do "war crims" because of your terror.
i reply: man, i know that ppl like you are so messed up and have a very mutilated idea of what is Right and wrong, but i didn't know that your memory can't hold more than couple of years back in your butthead,
Terror, hmmmmmm this word has been used so much in the last 10 years, but up to this moment none of the ppl that are using it were able to give a specific description for it, and what does it mean and what do you do to be a terrorist.
BUT..... i can tell you YOUR vision of this word "I'll try to keep it short": (( im a psycho maniac lunatic, i come from all around the world to your home land, and will bring all my psycho killer friends with me and invite the rest of the world psychos to join us or at lease help us and donate billions to help us, so, stay out of my way, oh and on your way out, don't forget to give me your land, your home, your country, your life and the life of every one you know, and don't forget to forget all about it, and i don't want to hear a peep out of you, even if you are hungry, homeless, orphan or widow coz i will kill your whole family, i don't actually care and i wish you just die quietly, or i kill you along the way, it doesn't make much of a different to me, i will try all kind of forbidden weapons on you, on your friends and family, and stuff all of you in prisons and throw away the key, i will take away your simplest rights as a human being, even as an animal, and you should be happy about it, why shouldn't you, BUT ....... if you just do anything about it, even throwing a stone at me, then WOOOOOOOW , you are definitely a TERRORIST and should be terminated on site ))
im so sorry "coz I'm a terrorist" if i missed few HUNDRED monstrosities that YOU have the right to do without anybody questioning you of course, coz the one who dare to question you will be an antisemitic and terrorist.
he says :look' i dont understand you are saying that israel is doing a war crims. but you justifies the attacks with suiaceiding?
there is a reasion for everything we do "war crims" because of your terror.
i reply: man, i know that ppl like you are so messed up and have a very mutilated idea of what is Right and wrong, but i didn't know that your memory can't hold more than couple of years back in your butthead,
Terror, hmmmmmm this word has been used so much in the last 10 years, but up to this moment none of the ppl that are using it were able to give a specific description for it, and what does it mean and what do you do to be a terrorist.
BUT..... i can tell you YOUR vision of this word "I'll try to keep it short": (( im a psycho maniac lunatic, i come from all around the world to your home land, and will bring all my psycho killer friends with me and invite the rest of the world psychos to join us or at lease help us and donate billions to help us, so, stay out of my way, oh and on your way out, don't forget to give me your land, your home, your country, your life and the life of every one you know, and don't forget to forget all about it, and i don't want to hear a peep out of you, even if you are hungry, homeless, orphan or widow coz i will kill your whole family, i don't actually care and i wish you just die quietly, or i kill you along the way, it doesn't make much of a different to me, i will try all kind of forbidden weapons on you, on your friends and family, and stuff all of you in prisons and throw away the key, i will take away your simplest rights as a human being, even as an animal, and you should be happy about it, why shouldn't you, BUT ....... if you just do anything about it, even throwing a stone at me, then WOOOOOOOW , you are definitely a TERRORIST and should be terminated on site ))
im so sorry "coz I'm a terrorist" if i missed few HUNDRED monstrosities that YOU have the right to do without anybody questioning you of course, coz the one who dare to question you will be an antisemitic and terrorist.
no actually i will not be against it, but obviously you didnt read my comment coz i said that does not mean killing all israelis and throw then in the sea, please read carefully, and that includes the "the ones that weren't born at that time" and what does that have to do with anything? if you steal a house and you have children in it does that justify the theft? you dont blame the children yes but the house is still stolen.
what are you talking about, give me one good valid reason of why they should have claim of Jerusalem, and dont give me that crap "(it belonged to them before they were driven of by the arabs)" ,Says who?, get your information right for gods sake, all israelis are from all around the world, in what logic you are thinking, Jerusalem is the Capital of Palestine, if you want to talk religion wise it belongs to all 3 religions, but Religiously, that does not mean any one has the right to throw the rest out and claim it for himself, Muslims, Christians and Jews lived side by side for Centuries peacefully and harmonically through out history just when one group tries to claim it for it self, problem starts to happen, and we are not talking about Jerusalem alone we are talking about all palestine
obviously the damaged view is yours and you are not welling to listen even
No they didnt, again please get your information right, and stop listening to your lying news channels, for gods sake they tell you what they want you to believe and you simple take it for granted, this has been going for many many years, just for ppl like you would think exactly the way you do now, but the truth is all over the place just look for it.
"My grandfather fought against the Nazi, and while you keep saying that Israel has done atrocities against the Palestinians, they are nuns compared to what the Nazi did."
so that makes it ok, killing hundreds of thousands is not ok, but killing thousands is fine, do you have any idea how sick you sound right now?
"My grandfather was in the resistance, but we never once attacked innocents(1), not even the families of traitors or Germans, and after we won the war we did not wipe Germany of the face of the earth(2)"
1) again read my comment carefully for the last time
2) hmmmmmm no you didnt, but Germans are not still occupying your country, ARE THEY NOOOOOOO, you kicked them out of your country, so they went back to where they came from, HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO, any body home?
"Perhaps it is time you started wondering about your own views. Israel did make that blockade, but Hamas were the ones driving them so(1). I do not agree with it, but you can't keep seeing the Israeli as some sorts of monsters (2). In a conflict you have to see both sides(3). THAT is what Arafat did (4), and was succesfull in it for a while. Hamas isn't even close to being what he was(5)."
(1) ok let me simplify this to you to show you how sick this sounds: so a guy(X) is accused of Murder and he should be found not guilty, why? Coz she was screaming while he was RAPING HER after robing her and he had to kill her, so its Her fault she is dead
(2) yes the guy(X) is not guilty your Honor he had no choice but to kill her, he didnt want to but she forced him to kill her, he is not a monster, he is just an Innocent guy who robs ad rapes women thats all, i dont see who you cannot see how not guilty he is.
(3) Funny, i was going to tell you the same thing, coz up to this moment you sound like a Zionist, and they are much like the Nazi you claim fighting against
(4) oh god you should read about what happened to him lol he also was under siege and fire (literally) then they poisoned him, thats why it was for a while coz he didnt last that long
(5) Thank god for that other wise they would have poisoned them as well looool
now, after all this if you still think in worng and you are right then please dont bother to reply me coz i will not be replying back, and you seriously need to go see a doctor to set your brain right, or maybe master reset it so at lease you would think from a humanitarian point of view
and by the way have a nice day is not an insult lol
what are you talking about, give me one good valid reason of why they should have claim of Jerusalem, and dont give me that crap "(it belonged to them before they were driven of by the arabs)" ,Says who?, get your information right for gods sake, all israelis are from all around the world, in what logic you are thinking, Jerusalem is the Capital of Palestine, if you want to talk religion wise it belongs to all 3 religions, but Religiously, that does not mean any one has the right to throw the rest out and claim it for himself, Muslims, Christians and Jews lived side by side for Centuries peacefully and harmonically through out history just when one group tries to claim it for it self, problem starts to happen, and we are not talking about Jerusalem alone we are talking about all palestine
obviously the damaged view is yours and you are not welling to listen even
No they didnt, again please get your information right, and stop listening to your lying news channels, for gods sake they tell you what they want you to believe and you simple take it for granted, this has been going for many many years, just for ppl like you would think exactly the way you do now, but the truth is all over the place just look for it.
"My grandfather fought against the Nazi, and while you keep saying that Israel has done atrocities against the Palestinians, they are nuns compared to what the Nazi did."
so that makes it ok, killing hundreds of thousands is not ok, but killing thousands is fine, do you have any idea how sick you sound right now?
"My grandfather was in the resistance, but we never once attacked innocents(1), not even the families of traitors or Germans, and after we won the war we did not wipe Germany of the face of the earth(2)"
1) again read my comment carefully for the last time
2) hmmmmmm no you didnt, but Germans are not still occupying your country, ARE THEY NOOOOOOO, you kicked them out of your country, so they went back to where they came from, HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO, any body home?
"Perhaps it is time you started wondering about your own views. Israel did make that blockade, but Hamas were the ones driving them so(1). I do not agree with it, but you can't keep seeing the Israeli as some sorts of monsters (2). In a conflict you have to see both sides(3). THAT is what Arafat did (4), and was succesfull in it for a while. Hamas isn't even close to being what he was(5)."
(1) ok let me simplify this to you to show you how sick this sounds: so a guy(X) is accused of Murder and he should be found not guilty, why? Coz she was screaming while he was RAPING HER after robing her and he had to kill her, so its Her fault she is dead
(2) yes the guy(X) is not guilty your Honor he had no choice but to kill her, he didnt want to but she forced him to kill her, he is not a monster, he is just an Innocent guy who robs ad rapes women thats all, i dont see who you cannot see how not guilty he is.
(3) Funny, i was going to tell you the same thing, coz up to this moment you sound like a Zionist, and they are much like the Nazi you claim fighting against
(4) oh god you should read about what happened to him lol he also was under siege and fire (literally) then they poisoned him, thats why it was for a while coz he didnt last that long
(5) Thank god for that other wise they would have poisoned them as well looool
now, after all this if you still think in worng and you are right then please dont bother to reply me coz i will not be replying back, and you seriously need to go see a doctor to set your brain right, or maybe master reset it so at lease you would think from a humanitarian point of view
and by the way have a nice day is not an insult lol
Seeing as you won't be replying back, I thought i'd give my peace as well.
I'll simply quote ONE line from everything you have said:
"and you seriously need to go see a doctor to set your brain right, or maybe master reset it so at lease you would think from a humanitarian point of view"
You call me messed up, but you also evaded the question about what you would do with the Israeli.
Apparently you as a muslim don't have to set reset your own brain, or think from a humanitarian point yourself when it comes to your "justice".
If being a muslim has anything to do with peace or forgiveness, then i don't think the line "proud to be a muslim" is fitting under your text message.
Proud to be a blind fool who has become everything he ever hated would be more fitting.
Perhaps something to think about?
Have a nice day.
I'll simply quote ONE line from everything you have said:
"and you seriously need to go see a doctor to set your brain right, or maybe master reset it so at lease you would think from a humanitarian point of view"
You call me messed up, but you also evaded the question about what you would do with the Israeli.
Apparently you as a muslim don't have to set reset your own brain, or think from a humanitarian point yourself when it comes to your "justice".
If being a muslim has anything to do with peace or forgiveness, then i don't think the line "proud to be a muslim" is fitting under your text message.
Proud to be a blind fool who has become everything he ever hated would be more fitting.
Perhaps something to think about?
Have a nice day.
did you even read any of my replies? god ..... i answered your questions many times now but you really need to read it, do you want me to pinpoint it for you? reread my replies again, god you are so typical
and please keep me being a Muslim out of it, i didn't bring up you being a Jew or Christan or anything else to the subject to run away from the fact that you already made up your mind about this whole issue, and prejudged me , this way you will not see the truth even if it bites you in the face
Islam is about peace and forgiveness but it does not mean to surrender , let go my rights and everything i own, and let every one else step on you, so you would e happy, and again you prove the idea that you as Ignorant about Islam as much as you are about Palestine.
one last thing, i want you to really now read my reply to that israeli as a definition or a terrorist and put your self in the same situation of a Palestinian, can you do that? coz every word i said in there is happening and on a daily bases, i hope you are old enough for that and you are mature enough to even try.
have a nice day
and please keep me being a Muslim out of it, i didn't bring up you being a Jew or Christan or anything else to the subject to run away from the fact that you already made up your mind about this whole issue, and prejudged me , this way you will not see the truth even if it bites you in the face
Islam is about peace and forgiveness but it does not mean to surrender , let go my rights and everything i own, and let every one else step on you, so you would e happy, and again you prove the idea that you as Ignorant about Islam as much as you are about Palestine.
one last thing, i want you to really now read my reply to that israeli as a definition or a terrorist and put your self in the same situation of a Palestinian, can you do that? coz every word i said in there is happening and on a daily bases, i hope you are old enough for that and you are mature enough to even try.
have a nice day
I read your reply alright, and still now you evade the question.
Also if it is about forgiveness, then why not forgive the Israeli? Because you're only willing to forgive when it suits you. I'm not saying you should surrender, that is your interpretation of what i said. I am saying however that the current leadership is far from forgiving or peacefull when they actually have the chance, and are responsible for the sealing off of gaza (the missile attacks remember?).
They don't care about their people as people, they suppress them themselves and keep provocing Israel. HOW is that supposed to help their cause? They train kids as soldiers and over the radio's talk about the killing of the un believers.
So yeah, i certainly am bringing your religion into this. A religion is only as good as the people who practice it. In europe we have let several thousands of muslim immigrants (millions now) into our home, while we had no problem with other immigrants, they have so far caused nothing but trouble (crime rates went of the scale, as did rape and child rape. Your people ARE causing trouble, and i'm tired of hearing how you keep calling yourself victims (Darfur, India etc.) yet not willing to sort out your own problems.
And put myself in that place? My grandfather sure could, and he would laugh at the softness of the Israeli. They aren't trying to genocide or mass murder your people, a lot of this can be laid by the Israeli, but also by the Palestinians.
If you read what i said, you would understand the meaning behind it. Sadly your replies only show your own immaturity.
If this is your reply, then i sadly have little else to add to it. I hope you have at least tried to see what i meant (because i most certainly understand yours myself).
This will be my last reply, i hope you'll think about what i said.
Have a nice day
Also if it is about forgiveness, then why not forgive the Israeli? Because you're only willing to forgive when it suits you. I'm not saying you should surrender, that is your interpretation of what i said. I am saying however that the current leadership is far from forgiving or peacefull when they actually have the chance, and are responsible for the sealing off of gaza (the missile attacks remember?).
They don't care about their people as people, they suppress them themselves and keep provocing Israel. HOW is that supposed to help their cause? They train kids as soldiers and over the radio's talk about the killing of the un believers.
So yeah, i certainly am bringing your religion into this. A religion is only as good as the people who practice it. In europe we have let several thousands of muslim immigrants (millions now) into our home, while we had no problem with other immigrants, they have so far caused nothing but trouble (crime rates went of the scale, as did rape and child rape. Your people ARE causing trouble, and i'm tired of hearing how you keep calling yourself victims (Darfur, India etc.) yet not willing to sort out your own problems.
And put myself in that place? My grandfather sure could, and he would laugh at the softness of the Israeli. They aren't trying to genocide or mass murder your people, a lot of this can be laid by the Israeli, but also by the Palestinians.
If you read what i said, you would understand the meaning behind it. Sadly your replies only show your own immaturity.
If this is your reply, then i sadly have little else to add to it. I hope you have at least tried to see what i meant (because i most certainly understand yours myself).
This will be my last reply, i hope you'll think about what i said.
Have a nice day
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