Director1265's avatar
I know! I especially hate the way "Dune" was portrayed in the 1980's David Lynch movie! More or less, David Lynch took Frank Herbert's epic universal oddessey and tried to cram it all in a two-hour movie after apparently not even reading the books! He ass-raped the entire saga, and I hate him and his movie for that.

The 2000 Scifi Channel miniseries remake was 1000 times better than the 1980's movie, but the books are still 1000 times better than that!

And have you noticed that they failed to put the ornithropters in any of those?

Anyway, what do you think of the Dune videogames?
NicholasKay's avatar
I couldn't agree more- ornithopters are always portrayed as airplanes or hover vehicles rather than actual flapping machines.

I've actually played all the Dune games and I'm a pretty big fan. If I remember correctly, they do portray ornithopters correctly, although some awkwardly.

There are quite a few things I didn't like however:

1. Michael Dorn was Duke Leto (so much for being from the line of Atreus)
2. Atreides colors became blue (Harkonnen colors) instead of red on green.
3. Vice versa of above
4. Sonic weapons instead of actual weirding way
5. House Ordos was OK, even if they were just a minor house.
6. Harkonnens had access to Nukes...not OK
7. Fremen constantly got killed... they should have been much tougher.

I also wasn't huge on the pervasive use of vehicles, but at least they did tend to stick to the rocks rather than sand.

Technically, house Atreidies should have been destroyed at the onset of the game, but then again it would have been a completely different plot (Maud'Dib sort of does that).
Director1265's avatar
I've always imagined the ornithropters being these airplane-like vehicles with wings that beat really fast, sort of like a housefly's wings. Is that how they're done in the games?

The House colors were REVERSED?! Now THAT I didn't expect! I guess it was influence from the movie that made me think otherwise.

But overall, the thing I love most about the Dune saga is that it seems so REAL; I mean, if man really did travel out into space, inhabiting different planets all over the galaxy like in the saga, I think we really would be a lot like Frank Herbert portrayed us. New cultures would develop, man would try to rule it all in a single government with planetary "houses," some people might see machines as evil, especially if they believe the machines will become self-aware, there would be new subspecies of humans, and any kind of space-folding technology would probably be kept in monopoly by a single organization similar to the Spacing Guild to keep it out of the wrong hands. I can bet a trillion dollars that in the distant future, Frank Herbert will be seen as a sort of modern Nostrodamus!
NicholasKay's avatar
I can't find a video online, but ya ornithopters in the games actually did have flapping wings, unlike the films.

I also enjoy Herbert's portrayal of humanity in the distant future, primarily because he approaches the subject with an anthropological and linguistic lens, not just a technological one.
Director1265's avatar
And to think that his portrayal of humanity in the distant future was thought up for the first time in the mid-1960s! That facinates me almost as much as the concepts themselves. In a time when people thought the year 1999 would be like "The Jetsons," Frank Herbert was coming up with a unique system of human cultures for the year 10,991 AG and beyond. (For "After the Foundation of the Guild," not AD, as most people confuse it for, so that tells you that this saga takes place even farther into the future than most people think!)

I would have loved to meet Frank Herbert if he was still alive. (He died in 1986...)

His writing styles have inspired my own writing styles to a certain degree. I'm writing several science fiction stories myself, and I'm hoping to at least reflect the sheer complexity and beauty of the Dune saga in these stories.