Comment on Belief by KendraKayKayKamera
You are aware that, even if by some crazy chance you prove evolution wrong, you cannot connect any god to that, right?
I don't believe because there is no proof. Same reason I don't believe in unicorns or the Loch Ness monsters.
I don't believe because there is no proof. Same reason I don't believe in unicorns or the Loch Ness monsters.
If life was not created by evolution then what created it?
Even if there is no proof for a God, there is no proof of evolution either.
I don't believe in ridiculous things like the Loch Ness monster either, at least not the one that people depict.
So if there was solid proof you would believe?
Even if there is no proof for a God, there is no proof of evolution either.
I don't believe in ridiculous things like the Loch Ness monster either, at least not the one that people depict.
So if there was solid proof you would believe?
Evolution didn't create life, abiogenesis started life, and science hasn't 100% figured that part out. Also, if by some miracle you could prove there was a god created everything, how can you prove it was your god?
Also, there is proof of evolution. DNA, transitional fossils.
If there was concrete, irrefutable proof for a god, I'd believe it exists, yes.
Also, there is proof of evolution. DNA, transitional fossils.
If there was concrete, irrefutable proof for a god, I'd believe it exists, yes.
yes you're right evolution did not create life. Abiogenesis is the theory that life can start form inanimate matter correct? That everything happened just by happenstance? It's a good theory, however it doesn't make sense. it's Just like the big bang theory: Something came out of nothing; Matter was created from no matter; Life was created from nothing. I'm not a scientist or anything, but to me, that makes absolutely no sense.
How do DNA and transitional fossils prove evolution? I'm not that sure about fossils, but I do know that DNA certainly supports creation, and ultimately supports that the world was created by a God and I will eventually get to how I believe in that.
and you ask, how would it be my God? What other God is there? Different religions have different gods I know, but ultimately they are all the same God just in different contexts.
How do DNA and transitional fossils prove evolution? I'm not that sure about fossils, but I do know that DNA certainly supports creation, and ultimately supports that the world was created by a God and I will eventually get to how I believe in that.
and you ask, how would it be my God? What other God is there? Different religions have different gods I know, but ultimately they are all the same God just in different contexts.
The big bang theory doesn't say everything came from nothing, if you can say that honestly then you don't know the big bang theory. I'm not too keen on abiogenesis but I do know there was an experiment done that proved that life can come from nonlife, but that experiment was not with the conditions that would be found on earth.
The fact that humans and apes share somewhere around 98% of the same DNA, or that humans have a chromosome that is two chromosomes found in apes fused together goes towards evolution.
the Greek/Roman pantheon of Gods, Native American gods, Old Norse pantheon, I think Babylonian had a pantheon of gods but I could be wrong there, Hinduism. Erebus and Night, the creators of everything according to the Greek myths, are no the same god as Jehovah/Yahweh/whatever you choose to call him.
The fact that humans and apes share somewhere around 98% of the same DNA, or that humans have a chromosome that is two chromosomes found in apes fused together goes towards evolution.
the Greek/Roman pantheon of Gods, Native American gods, Old Norse pantheon, I think Babylonian had a pantheon of gods but I could be wrong there, Hinduism. Erebus and Night, the creators of everything according to the Greek myths, are no the same god as Jehovah/Yahweh/whatever you choose to call him.
If the experiment was created with conditions that were not of this planet, then how could it come to create earth. If everything were to happen by the "big bang" wouldn't that mean that life itself just happened by happenstance. everything is just by Accident and it is a mere miracle that life exists today? I don't think so. Everything was designed and thought out before it was created.
If all life was created from small organisms, how did those small organism become so many different creatures, and types of life's?
Let us say that Humans evolved from apes:
If we are an evolved version of Apes, how is it that a creature, with little intelligence, can suddenly evolve into a being with much more intelligence and intellect? How could it evolve into the everyday man, and yet there are still apes today? Where is the missing link? if man and ape are in the same world today, how come the missing link is not still the world today, and the apes are not still evolving into humans.
You say 98%? that is not 100% if we evolved from apes wouldn't our DNA still be the same. to say that humans evolve form apes, is to say that humans are animals:
Animals act on instinct; Human act on conscience and emotions, which is something that animals do not have.
All gods the same, it all comes back to them being the master/creator of something, and that being the creator of the world.
My God has several names, Jehovah being one of them. however I am not Jehovah's witness.
You said that you did not believe in any God especially not the Christian one; Why so against the Christian God?
I don't know the big bang theory, because I don't want to; I know it is only a theory.
Just like you don't believe that there is no God because there is no solid proof, is the same reason I do not believe in evolution or the big bang theory; there is no solid proof; everything in science that has to do with the origin's of life based on evolution/the big bang theory is based on theory. There is no concrete proof for it.
I have my own proof for creation, but it is only visible to those are willing to see it.
If all life was created from small organisms, how did those small organism become so many different creatures, and types of life's?
Let us say that Humans evolved from apes:
If we are an evolved version of Apes, how is it that a creature, with little intelligence, can suddenly evolve into a being with much more intelligence and intellect? How could it evolve into the everyday man, and yet there are still apes today? Where is the missing link? if man and ape are in the same world today, how come the missing link is not still the world today, and the apes are not still evolving into humans.
You say 98%? that is not 100% if we evolved from apes wouldn't our DNA still be the same. to say that humans evolve form apes, is to say that humans are animals:
Animals act on instinct; Human act on conscience and emotions, which is something that animals do not have.
All gods the same, it all comes back to them being the master/creator of something, and that being the creator of the world.
My God has several names, Jehovah being one of them. however I am not Jehovah's witness.
You said that you did not believe in any God especially not the Christian one; Why so against the Christian God?
I don't know the big bang theory, because I don't want to; I know it is only a theory.
Just like you don't believe that there is no God because there is no solid proof, is the same reason I do not believe in evolution or the big bang theory; there is no solid proof; everything in science that has to do with the origin's of life based on evolution/the big bang theory is based on theory. There is no concrete proof for it.
I have my own proof for creation, but it is only visible to those are willing to see it.
"If the experiment was created with conditions that were not of this planet, then how could it come to create earth. If everything were to happen by the "big bang" wouldn't that mean that life itself just happened by happenstance. everything is just by Accident and it is a mere miracle that life exists today? I don't think so. Everything was designed and thought out before it was created."
That experiment proved that life can come from nonliving matter. And abiogenesis does say what created the earth, that's the Big Bang theory.
"If all life was created from small organisms, how did those small organism become so many different creatures, and types of life's?"
They adapt to the pressures that are put on them by their environment. Big ones eat more than little ones, so eventually they all get bigger. Faster ones eat more than slower ones, so eventually they get faster. Ones with eyes can get prey more efficiently then ones without eyes, so eventually they start getting eyes.
"If we are an evolved version of Apes, how is it that a creature, with little intelligence, can suddenly evolve into a being with much more intelligence and intellect? How could it evolve into the everyday man, and yet there are still apes today? Where is the missing link? if man and ape are in the same world today, how come the missing link is not still the world today, and the apes are not still evolving into humans."
First of all, let me correct a mistake I made. Humans did not evolve from apes, both species come from a common ancestor. Now, intelligence comes with the increased brain size (smarter ones can get more food than dumber ones). There is no missing link because ever species between us and our common ancestor is a transitional fossil, no link is missing. Lets say there was a "missing link", this missing link would be less intelligent than us, and thus would have been whipped out. Apes are not evolving into humans because, for the niche they fill, they are perfect for that. Chimpanzee's are stronger and more agile than us, it wouldn't be necessary for them to evolve into a human, they would evolve into something like a human, but they don't because the niche they fill is good with them being the way they are.
"You say 98%? that is not 100% if we evolved from apes wouldn't our DNA still be the same. to say that humans evolve form apes, is to say that humans are animals:
Animals act on instinct; Human act on conscience and emotions, which is something that animals do not have."
That is a common misconception. My dog wants my food, his instinct would say "take it", why doesn't he? Because his conscious knows if he tries to take it I will get angry and that would be counter productive to him.
"All gods the same, it all comes back to them being the master/creator of something, and that being the creator of the world."
No. The two I mentioned before just created everything, they are not the masters of it. The Aztecs had at least two gods known as creator/master gods, are they the same as your god?
"You said that you did not believe in any God especially not the Christian one; Why so against the Christian God?"
Any other god is more plausible than the Christian one simply because the Christian god is allpowerful, can do anything. Can he make something so large even he can't lift it? If he can, than he cannot life that object and isn't all powerful. If he cant, then he isn't all powerful. See?
"I don't know the big bang theory, because I don't want to; I know it is only a theory."
Gravity is just a theory, why don't you go test it?
"Just like you don't believe that there is no God because there is no solid proof, is the same reason I do not believe in evolution or the big bang theory; there is no solid proof; everything in science that has to do with the origin's of life based on evolution/the big bang theory is based on theory. There is no concrete proof for it."
You're right. The fact that the Big Bang model made testable predictions that turned out to be true, or that you can Google search an image of every skull between new and early humans and clearly see evolution happening just with the skulls, clearly isn't enough solid evidence for either of the theories.
That experiment proved that life can come from nonliving matter. And abiogenesis does say what created the earth, that's the Big Bang theory.
"If all life was created from small organisms, how did those small organism become so many different creatures, and types of life's?"
They adapt to the pressures that are put on them by their environment. Big ones eat more than little ones, so eventually they all get bigger. Faster ones eat more than slower ones, so eventually they get faster. Ones with eyes can get prey more efficiently then ones without eyes, so eventually they start getting eyes.
"If we are an evolved version of Apes, how is it that a creature, with little intelligence, can suddenly evolve into a being with much more intelligence and intellect? How could it evolve into the everyday man, and yet there are still apes today? Where is the missing link? if man and ape are in the same world today, how come the missing link is not still the world today, and the apes are not still evolving into humans."
First of all, let me correct a mistake I made. Humans did not evolve from apes, both species come from a common ancestor. Now, intelligence comes with the increased brain size (smarter ones can get more food than dumber ones). There is no missing link because ever species between us and our common ancestor is a transitional fossil, no link is missing. Lets say there was a "missing link", this missing link would be less intelligent than us, and thus would have been whipped out. Apes are not evolving into humans because, for the niche they fill, they are perfect for that. Chimpanzee's are stronger and more agile than us, it wouldn't be necessary for them to evolve into a human, they would evolve into something like a human, but they don't because the niche they fill is good with them being the way they are.
"You say 98%? that is not 100% if we evolved from apes wouldn't our DNA still be the same. to say that humans evolve form apes, is to say that humans are animals:
Animals act on instinct; Human act on conscience and emotions, which is something that animals do not have."
That is a common misconception. My dog wants my food, his instinct would say "take it", why doesn't he? Because his conscious knows if he tries to take it I will get angry and that would be counter productive to him.
"All gods the same, it all comes back to them being the master/creator of something, and that being the creator of the world."
No. The two I mentioned before just created everything, they are not the masters of it. The Aztecs had at least two gods known as creator/master gods, are they the same as your god?
"You said that you did not believe in any God especially not the Christian one; Why so against the Christian God?"
Any other god is more plausible than the Christian one simply because the Christian god is allpowerful, can do anything. Can he make something so large even he can't lift it? If he can, than he cannot life that object and isn't all powerful. If he cant, then he isn't all powerful. See?
"I don't know the big bang theory, because I don't want to; I know it is only a theory."
Gravity is just a theory, why don't you go test it?
"Just like you don't believe that there is no God because there is no solid proof, is the same reason I do not believe in evolution or the big bang theory; there is no solid proof; everything in science that has to do with the origin's of life based on evolution/the big bang theory is based on theory. There is no concrete proof for it."
You're right. The fact that the Big Bang model made testable predictions that turned out to be true, or that you can Google search an image of every skull between new and early humans and clearly see evolution happening just with the skulls, clearly isn't enough solid evidence for either of the theories.
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