:/ No one is obliged to change their views or lifestyle for you to fit into your mold of a "strong female". Strong females don't fly off the handle and laugh at others when others disagree with them. Strong females don't backbite, bully, and gossip about others. Strong females don't have two faces. Those are actyally the most horrible, stereotypically "woman" traits one can have.
You can't begin to accept the fact that you insult others every other breath, and yet you expect people to accept your offensive opinions without reason. Your logic. I do not understand.
I really, really don't understand you people.
You can't begin to accept the fact that you insult others every other breath, and yet you expect people to accept your offensive opinions without reason. Your logic. I do not understand.
I really, really don't understand you people.
*Sigh* Another person making assumptions. I did not say that people had to change their behaviour, everyone can behave anyway they like (unless it is criminal) I am just saying that dome behaviours annoy me. We all behave and react to things in different ways, and I understand that.
I know that. That is one of my flaws along with my temper. I genuinely find it hard to tell when I am insulting someone unless I am doing on purpose, which I am not. I am not really ones of those who gets in touch with people’s feeling, as I find it hard. I really do not see how my views are offensive. They are not racist, they are not homophobic, they are not discriminating, or going against a group of innocent people, so I do not understand why they are offensive. Can you all not understand that?!
And us ‘people’. What is that supposed to mean? You are saying I am being offence but you are singling me and other people out?
And BTW, thank you for completely ignoring my genuine apology and falsely labelling my rant as “Anti-EdWin”. I thougtht you would adult enough to accept it.
I know that. That is one of my flaws along with my temper. I genuinely find it hard to tell when I am insulting someone unless I am doing on purpose, which I am not. I am not really ones of those who gets in touch with people’s feeling, as I find it hard. I really do not see how my views are offensive. They are not racist, they are not homophobic, they are not discriminating, or going against a group of innocent people, so I do not understand why they are offensive. Can you all not understand that?!
And us ‘people’. What is that supposed to mean? You are saying I am being offence but you are singling me and other people out?
And BTW, thank you for completely ignoring my genuine apology and falsely labelling my rant as “Anti-EdWin”. I thougtht you would adult enough to accept it.
-sigh- Your apology was you essentially asking me to "forget about it" and be grateful that you admitted it wasn't cool of you to laugh at me. A sincere apology shows caring for understanding. I don't have to accept it if I don't find it sincere, and your reaction here only seems to reinforce that.
Opinion? When you go around telling people that the way they deal with pain and shit is pathetic, that's when it stops being okay. These are people's fucking lives. I'm typically a very forgiving and sweet person but these are things i draw the lines at.
Opinion? When you go around telling people that the way they deal with pain and shit is pathetic, that's when it stops being okay. These are people's fucking lives. I'm typically a very forgiving and sweet person but these are things i draw the lines at.
You have completely misinterpreted it. When you apologise to someone, it is generally because you feel you have wronging someone and want to leave in the past, instead of holding a grudge.
If you cannot find it serene, well then, I just do not know. It shows that I more mature, as I saw I was wrong (and I do not laugh, did you not read that?) and it shows you as immature as you do not believe it and will not accept it.
Sorry, but that is the truth. I kind of thought you would have been more mature than that, but I guess I was mistaken.
If you cannot find it serene, well then, I just do not know. It shows that I more mature, as I saw I was wrong (and I do not laugh, did you not read that?) and it shows you as immature as you do not believe it and will not accept it.
Sorry, but that is the truth. I kind of thought you would have been more mature than that, but I guess I was mistaken.
Also, for a better explanation because I've noticed the trend of you requiring such: If you think you did something wrong the main focus is how the wronged person feels. NOT</> you. If it is about you then you're doing it wrong, certainly not sincerity. "I said I'm wrong now let it go!" sounds entitled. You bullied me and it's not good enough that you feel bad after my friends jumped in. I know for a fact I'm not the first person you bullied. I am however, the first person to have people defend her. Dearheart showed me your thoughts --that even as you typed the comment you found it uncool. So really, there's no excuse. You knew what you were doing was wrong. The only thing is, it didn't work out --you didn't bully me successfully.
You wanna prove me wrong? Have a heart. You brought this outside of notes, so I'm gonna say this publicly. I'm actually someone who accepts apologies easily... very, very easily. Think about how insincere you have to sound to get me to scoff at someone's apology. You saw how i tried to get through to your friend --I believe in reconciliation. But I can't do it without sincerity, sorry. I have a backbone.
You wanna prove me wrong? Have a heart. You brought this outside of notes, so I'm gonna say this publicly. I'm actually someone who accepts apologies easily... very, very easily. Think about how insincere you have to sound to get me to scoff at someone's apology. You saw how i tried to get through to your friend --I believe in reconciliation. But I can't do it without sincerity, sorry. I have a backbone.
I have never bullied anyone. I do not bully anyone, and I never have, and never will I. I only replied to comments that were flaming me in a way befitting there attitude, and due to the fact that I have a short temper. and for the last time, I did not laugh at your comment, when is that going to get through to you?
I am one person, you and many others were ganging up on me, simply because I expressed an opinion you did not agree with.
I do not ‘belittle you’, I was expressing the attitude, that to me, you seemed to be showing. That is not ‘belittling’.
I think you are being completely unreasonable and just singling me out, accusing me, when you have never met me in real life and do not know what I am like.
Why are so many people on the internet like this? Why do they need to hold grudges about people they have never met? It is most definitely not about pride, as showing to much of that is a sin. It take the better person to say sorry, especially to someone they have never met, and you cannot understand that.
You also lied about me, claiming my rants was “Anti-EdWin” when it was addressing sexism in fiction, in this case FMA, along with making improvable assumptions. You, and others I could mention.
It is also funny how you have being asking Averia for an apology, and yet you completely ignored mine, which I feel is hypocritical.
I am not awful, and many of my friends (ones I know from the internet and real life) can prove this as well.
I am trying be reasonable, and it seems you are not as you will not do one tiny little thing.
I am one person, you and many others were ganging up on me, simply because I expressed an opinion you did not agree with.
I do not ‘belittle you’, I was expressing the attitude, that to me, you seemed to be showing. That is not ‘belittling’.
I think you are being completely unreasonable and just singling me out, accusing me, when you have never met me in real life and do not know what I am like.
Why are so many people on the internet like this? Why do they need to hold grudges about people they have never met? It is most definitely not about pride, as showing to much of that is a sin. It take the better person to say sorry, especially to someone they have never met, and you cannot understand that.
You also lied about me, claiming my rants was “Anti-EdWin” when it was addressing sexism in fiction, in this case FMA, along with making improvable assumptions. You, and others I could mention.
It is also funny how you have being asking Averia for an apology, and yet you completely ignored mine, which I feel is hypocritical.
I am not awful, and many of my friends (ones I know from the internet and real life) can prove this as well.
I am trying be reasonable, and it seems you are not as you will not do one tiny little thing.
And the lie about you? Honestly? That is such a miniscule fact it doesn't even register. It was just an offhanded label for your rant. I don't really care whether it's anti-EdWin or not. You're grasping at straws here. Stop playing victim. A sincere apology does not come from playing victim.
And I'm gonna leave this in --I'm not a bitch. I'm perfectly willing to listen and reconcile. But I won't do it while abandoning myself. You'd be surprised at how amiable and friendly I am to someone willing to listen and understand. As it is though, I have little tolerance for people who play victim and call me "unreasonable" and basically pull hypocrisy on me by "judging me"and then crying about being judged and whatnot...and *raggles head*. man this is confusing. Anyways, you refuse to look at yourself or understand anything I'm saying. You're at your stance of where you're victim. And honestly, from what I've seen of you I think you're going to keep saying that. So I'm really tired of dealing with this. That is why I didn't respond to your note int he first this. This is exactly what I knew I would get. You don't even understand the basics of reconciliation.
And I'm gonna leave this in --I'm not a bitch. I'm perfectly willing to listen and reconcile. But I won't do it while abandoning myself. You'd be surprised at how amiable and friendly I am to someone willing to listen and understand. As it is though, I have little tolerance for people who play victim and call me "unreasonable" and basically pull hypocrisy on me by "judging me"and then crying about being judged and whatnot...and *raggles head*. man this is confusing. Anyways, you refuse to look at yourself or understand anything I'm saying. You're at your stance of where you're victim. And honestly, from what I've seen of you I think you're going to keep saying that. So I'm really tired of dealing with this. That is why I didn't respond to your note int he first this. This is exactly what I knew I would get. You don't even understand the basics of reconciliation.
And the fact that you deny you did bully me renders your apology null, as you basically are saying you had nothing to apologize for.
Um honey? When you offend someone it's unreasonable to expect them to not be upset. Polite words are for those who deserve it. Nice try derailing, though.
And okay... in one breath you accuse me of not knowing you and in another you then judge me? Nice try. You can't have it both ways. And for the record, the internet is real life. last i checked I am a real human being, and so are you... if logic serves me right. The way you treat me is still the way to treat another person. Nice try, again.
Here's a thought, instead of sitting here mouthing off at me for daring to take offense at your misbehavior, how about you try acting like a decent, reasonable person and actually show you're sorry. If you ever were, that was. I don't really care about holding a grudge. All I know is that I don't like the way you keep talking to me and to other people. I don't like the things you say. And I don't like how you keep making yourself out to be victim.
Point: See, you say you're sorry, but then you have the nerve to get mad that I won't bow down and accept your glorious apology (which was, and I still have the note, essentially telling me to "get over it" and be grateful you admitted you were wrong). I don't need an arrogant apology. I don't need to be nice to someone who isn't nice to me. And guess what, I also don't have to be civil with someone who keeps and keeps (and still keeps) insulting me even now, and even in the "apology note".
For that matter, I find it funny that your apology note blamed me of making this about fandom and causing drama. Yes, because that's really sincere.
And newsflash? I wasn't asking Averia for an apology. Don't you dare even compare that. You see what I'm doing here now? I'm talking to you. I'm giving you a chance to comment and defend yourself. That chick doesn't have the dignity to do that. That's really low of you to compare that.
-Sigh- I really don't care how bullies deal with cognitive dissonance.
Um honey? When you offend someone it's unreasonable to expect them to not be upset. Polite words are for those who deserve it. Nice try derailing, though.
And okay... in one breath you accuse me of not knowing you and in another you then judge me? Nice try. You can't have it both ways. And for the record, the internet is real life. last i checked I am a real human being, and so are you... if logic serves me right. The way you treat me is still the way to treat another person. Nice try, again.
Here's a thought, instead of sitting here mouthing off at me for daring to take offense at your misbehavior, how about you try acting like a decent, reasonable person and actually show you're sorry. If you ever were, that was. I don't really care about holding a grudge. All I know is that I don't like the way you keep talking to me and to other people. I don't like the things you say. And I don't like how you keep making yourself out to be victim.
Point: See, you say you're sorry, but then you have the nerve to get mad that I won't bow down and accept your glorious apology (which was, and I still have the note, essentially telling me to "get over it" and be grateful you admitted you were wrong). I don't need an arrogant apology. I don't need to be nice to someone who isn't nice to me. And guess what, I also don't have to be civil with someone who keeps and keeps (and still keeps) insulting me even now, and even in the "apology note".
For that matter, I find it funny that your apology note blamed me of making this about fandom and causing drama. Yes, because that's really sincere.
And newsflash? I wasn't asking Averia for an apology. Don't you dare even compare that. You see what I'm doing here now? I'm talking to you. I'm giving you a chance to comment and defend yourself. That chick doesn't have the dignity to do that. That's really low of you to compare that.
-Sigh- I really don't care how bullies deal with cognitive dissonance.
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Sorry, but that is the truth. I kind of thought you would have been more mature than that, but I guess I was mistaken.
Wow, so now I'm the bad guy here?
Excuse me, I'm just sitting here wondering how on earth you once again manage to belittle me and make me feel the same way i did after you laughed in my face. In the name of an apology?
Acting like I'm immature for doubting your sincerity when you go on to your friend about how STUPID my comment is sincerely. My bad. So much thanks for clearing that up.
Apology is a willingness to understand and care about their feelings. newsflash, it isn't about you. If someone doesn't feel like you're sorry you have to communicate with them and understand where they're coming from, not go "oh well you're immature". That's not sincerity. That's pride.
Just. You're awful. I'm glad I wasn't mistaken in doubting you and your supposed maturity (which is why I approached you in the first place).
"I really do not see how my views are offensive. They are not racist, they are not homophobic, they are not discriminating, or going against a group of innocent people, so I do not understand why they are offensive."
You can't see why you're being offensive, because it's not something that you connect with...
look, if someone says (like I have said) "people who don't cry are made of stone"
or
"people who wear glasses are lame and genetically defective, they're worthless, with their genetic condition they should not be alive were we in nature"
What would you say to people who talk that way?
I'd hate them. 
So try. TRY to understand people's feelings. Just because I cry doesn't mean I'm a crybaby, weak, unable to do anything at all by myself, etc. etc.
Just because I bake doesn't mean, (I'm quoting someone) That I'm a 1950's housewife, who's only good for sex and cooking and wants nothing more than to please her man.
You don't necessarily have to be a HORRID person (nazi, racist, etc) to offend, am I right? Think about it. Making fun of your personal (physical or psychological) traits is never nice. Making fun, or trampling upon them saying they're lame, useless, weak, etc...
I don't know if you're anti-Edwin (if you are, you're perfectly entitled to it), but don't generalize. Not all EdWin fangirls are hormone-raging, biting monsters obsessed with a pairing, willing to tear you up for breathing one thing against EdWin.
It makes the "sane" ones (like me, durrhurr) look bad.
You can't see why you're being offensive, because it's not something that you connect with...
look, if someone says (like I have said) "people who don't cry are made of stone"
or
"people who wear glasses are lame and genetically defective, they're worthless, with their genetic condition they should not be alive were we in nature"
What would you say to people who talk that way?
I'd hate them. So try. TRY to understand people's feelings. Just because I cry doesn't mean I'm a crybaby, weak, unable to do anything at all by myself, etc. etc.
Just because I bake doesn't mean, (I'm quoting someone) That I'm a 1950's housewife, who's only good for sex and cooking and wants nothing more than to please her man.
You don't necessarily have to be a HORRID person (nazi, racist, etc) to offend, am I right? Think about it. Making fun of your personal (physical or psychological) traits is never nice. Making fun, or trampling upon them saying they're lame, useless, weak, etc...
I don't know if you're anti-Edwin (if you are, you're perfectly entitled to it), but don't generalize. Not all EdWin fangirls are hormone-raging, biting monsters obsessed with a pairing, willing to tear you up for breathing one thing against EdWin.
It makes the "sane" ones (like me, durrhurr) look bad.
I will try, but I sometimes just let my temper get the better of me, and I then regret it afterwards, and I then wish I had not opened my big mouth, but I still do it.
I just tell things as it is, which I know can be bad, but that is just my personality. I voice my opinions, inside of keeping them to myself.
I can be in touch with other people’s feelings, but as you can see, I do ‘distance’ myself allot.
I do not think all EdWin fans are rabid and hate you if you do not like it, for example, there is
, who is an EdWin fan, but a really nice person too.
I just tell things as it is, which I know can be bad, but that is just my personality. I voice my opinions, inside of keeping them to myself.
I can be in touch with other people’s feelings, but as you can see, I do ‘distance’ myself allot.
I do not think all EdWin fans are rabid and hate you if you do not like it, for example, there is
, who is an EdWin fan, but a really nice person too.Yeah, I can understand that. That's mostly what some other people did: they let their tempers get to them so when they reply, they're not as "nice" as they could have been.
Sometimes being direct is a good thing.
but as time passes you (and I mean "you" generally) need to learn how to say things so you won't spark any unwanted backlashes. It ain't easy and you can't always guess who you're gonna hurt when you say something - hell, sometimes you just don't give a shit ;D - but practice makes perfect if you really want to avoid long, vicious debates.
Yes, I know her, and she's quite nice indeed. ^^
Sometimes being direct is a good thing.
but as time passes you (and I mean "you" generally) need to learn how to say things so you won't spark any unwanted backlashes. It ain't easy and you can't always guess who you're gonna hurt when you say something - hell, sometimes you just don't give a shit ;D - but practice makes perfect if you really want to avoid long, vicious debates.Yes, I know her, and she's quite nice indeed. ^^
I know this, and I do try to control my temper. After these kinds o things, I just like to leave them in the pass where they belong. I do not like dwelling on bad things. I do try to be nice, even if I am being negative, but really, who is nice all the time?
What's already passed is past, sure, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't learn from it. when something bad is suddenly in the past tense, you'll want to never go through it again. Hence, learning from our "mistakes", so we won't end up repeating something that turned out not very well.
Nobody is nice all the time. Trust me! -.-;
when something bad is suddenly in the past tense, you'll want to never go through it again. Hence, learning from our "mistakes", so we won't end up repeating something that turned out not very well.Nobody is nice all the time. Trust me! -.-;
Thank you. You're lovely. she THINKS she's being the right kind of female... ha! Look at me laughing at her. xD
she THINKS she's being the right kind of female... ha! Look at me laughing at her. xD