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That's also what I remember. IIRC only Jade Empire when playing as Male and DAO as a Cousland allowed for multiple relationships.
So Crusader Kings 2 got Bioware beat there ;) . Although it wasn't until version 2.1.1. that non-Muslims rulers got the opportunity to have up to 4 lovers in addition to a spouse.
Not that there aren't plenty of pitfalls there. Like your kids not bothering to wait until they get married, or after making sure that conquered territory stays in the family by handing out new lands and titles to your siblings you find out that your sisters firstborn was fathered by her Chancellor.
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That all sounds...terribly dramatic! I downloaded the game once but it was all very complicated and kept closing at random times, so I gave up on playing it. I played Jade Empire but the threesome left much to be desired, I hear. Then again, it's quality, not quantity when it comes to relationships. 

Unfortunately I'm having video card issues, so I won't be gaming for a few weeks and won't get either. :(
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It is very dramatic. The game totally is very much you playing not as a nation, but as a ruler, a person. I've written about it twice, before patch 2.0.4. so now it would be even more hectic than in my journal entries: nerooncousland.deviantart.com/… & nerooncousland.deviantart.com/… .
Lately Paradox has unfortunately listened too much to the most hardcore of their fanbase and "corrected" exploits that were mere survival strategies most of us mortals. But that can easily be worked around by rolling back to version 2.1.6, which PI thankfully lets you do within Steam.
For the complicated: Start out as a small independent county in Ireland, best place to learn. Random crashes I've not had had in ages, really runs quite stable by now.
Jade Empire I can't get to work, not even the GOG version unfortunately. Sounds I didn't miss much from what you write.

Video card? Ouch! If I had to fall back on my onboard, I hardly could play anything either. Best of luck getting a replacement. Have you considered getting a 2nd hand one from Ebay as a temporary solution until you can afford a new one?
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Actually, I think Jade Empire is worth playing, at least just once. There was a fix...what was it? Mm, A work around that let me play even the old version. I think I googled "crashes" and just tried whatever came up. It worked eventually. I then purchased it on Steam a while back as well but never played it because whatever, I already went through it. I tend to pirate games before I buy them which, yes, would account for all of those crashes I complained about innocently. I guess I've never been into RTS because I don't have the aptitude for it. I love building little towns an' shit but when it comes to fighting If I can't run in and bash it up with superior numbers, I'll lose for sure. Also it usually ends up with a tiny village struggling to support my massive army, and then inevitable social collapse. Metaphors! 

As for the video card, I bought the Radeon R9 290 a few weeks ago, first time trying to install my own card. I was terrified I was screwing up but after fourteen hours of two people trying to get it to work, we realised it was probably dead on arrival and I sent it back for a refund. Now I have to wait 3-5 working days for a technician to pretend to look at it (like hell they're going to put it in a PC and install it just to see) and then another 5-7 working days for a refund before I can buy a new one. Much depression, also I feel like I'm being punished for them having a fault product and me daring to ask for my money back. Grumble grumble, but it was a learning experience, that's for sure. 
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Well I'd LIKE to play Jade Empire, but I can't just get it to run nor google up any solution. My problem is that during startup it just doesn't go past the splash screen. The loading screen where a game artwork is shown. Alt-tabbing out and opening the task manager shows the process still running not as unresponsive, but consuming 0% CPU power. Trust me I've waited a long long time once. Nothing. A crash would be more polite at this point ;) .

CK2 I really wouldn't call an RTS even though it technically runs in realtime. Like all the other Paradox strategy games it's basically "wait and pause when something happens" the auto-pause usually something that happens automatically during events and stuff. You don't base-build or anything. It all takes place on a big map.

Sorry to hear about the video card. Installing one is usually the first thing someone learns to do without help. To have it fail due to gettting a DAO one must be frustrating no matter how much logic tells you it wasn't your fault. About the store: You should consider doing what I did 12 years ago: Emigrate to Sweden ;) . Kind of overkill, I know. But ever since I had my first problem with something I'd ordered from CDON I've been blown away with how great their customer support is. Needless to say I now hardly ever order anywhere else.
ZolaPaulse's avatar
You've probably already tried these, but disabling the intro movies in the jadeempire.ini may help; Also making sure your install is on the same drive as your OS; Maybe starting from the exe; Running with XP compatibility; Most likely time travelling back to a shitty computer. If I remember...I installed it from a downloaded file before buying it, so maybe looking for a NoCD file would do the trick. I mean this is all a lot of effort and the game isn't something I'd get off the sofa for, but there you go.

I feel like the only game that I'd really like to play now would be a WoW offline. Other people take the joy from multiplayers. Does one of those exist?

I've been sulking. I sent my broken video card back to the company and they won't refund. It's not the card they listed as selling me. It seems an incredibly personal crime for a big company, so I think that means some fucker swapped it out with a dead one on the mailing floor. The amount of complaints about eBuyer seems to run for a while though, so I'm going to assume they do this kind of thing all the time. The PSU I bought to run the new card is also having some issues already, I suspect if I tried to return it they'd accuse me of making a paper mache forgery so I'll take what I can get.
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I think I did, but I'm going to look into trying that anyway just in case. Going to need to reinstall it again some time for that first, though.

I never played WoW at all, but I did play Guild Wars 2 for quite some time. As I like to play multiplayer on occasion, but not a lot a more casual MMORPG with buy-to-play instead of a subscription is just the ticket for me. And well Skyrim is a massive openworld single-player, with still massive amount of mods to add yet more content that I sunk way over 100 hours into.

Sorry to hear about you getting the runaround with your video card. Actually getting literally ripped of by their shipping and then them refusing to admit responsibility is a new low in customer support.
I don't know anything much about British institutions regarding complaints about bought stuff, but here in Sweden every local council has a department where you can get aid for filing complaints and stuff. Perhaps you have something similar. Naturally all this takes quite a long time unfortunately.
Either way best of luck!
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I kind of have the urge to play Jade Empire too now, but I don't really wanna go through all the effort.

I've pretty much given up on Great Justice, that company seems untouchable. I read a story where some dude returned his new laptop for repairs after it had a few dead pixels. They sent it back to him saying, "the warranty doesn't cover this amount of damage." He's like 'whut?' and opens the box back up and

LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE KICKED HIS SCREEN IN :lol:?!
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