Comment on Cottilion: the Rope - November by Shadaan
Thanks for commenting! Yep these two are really subjective characters. My mental image of them shifted a few times through the entire series, I'm happy with cottilions face and shadowthrones smile, the rest I'd change in a hartbeat given the time and incentive.
I have always seen Cottilion as a cross between classical greek super athlete and a traditional Martial artist. something about his character says he'd obsess over perfect form. the problem is an athlete can be lean or heavy built my gut now tells me I should have aimed for something leaner. Also yes, a god of assasins would likely be covered in dark cloth, this was meant for a pinup calendar so I felt It more appropriate to have him half dressed.
shadowthrone is not the type of character I'd appreciate without motion. if someone (me or anyone so inclined) where to try him, I'd imagine a more dynamicly abstract shadow pattern second time around.
I have always seen Cottilion as a cross between classical greek super athlete and a traditional Martial artist. something about his character says he'd obsess over perfect form. the problem is an athlete can be lean or heavy built my gut now tells me I should have aimed for something leaner. Also yes, a god of assasins would likely be covered in dark cloth, this was meant for a pinup calendar so I felt It more appropriate to have him half dressed.
shadowthrone is not the type of character I'd appreciate without motion. if someone (me or anyone so inclined) where to try him, I'd imagine a more dynamicly abstract shadow pattern second time around.
wow love your work its nothing short of incredible.
i had always imagined cottilion to be quite sturdy of build though i feel as though he should be dressed i a robe of some sort similar to the night of knives. also cottilion may be a god but he is also a man in his mid to late 40s, as such i think he should have some grey in his beard and maybe his hair.
also is i remember correctly its cottilion who smiles since he is possibly insane, shadowthrone on the other hand is sound of mind and an ascendant of the warren of shadow, so his smile might be more sinister.
anyway just some suggestions and feedback, as i said i love your work and hope to see more.
i had always imagined cottilion to be quite sturdy of build though i feel as though he should be dressed i a robe of some sort similar to the night of knives. also cottilion may be a god but he is also a man in his mid to late 40s, as such i think he should have some grey in his beard and maybe his hair.
also is i remember correctly its cottilion who smiles since he is possibly insane, shadowthrone on the other hand is sound of mind and an ascendant of the warren of shadow, so his smile might be more sinister.
anyway just some suggestions and feedback, as i said i love your work and hope to see more.
Hi!
Thank you for the feedback, really appreciate your enthusiasm.
I hope to do something like this again soon. when I do I will keep this in mind.
I haven't read Dancer's Lament yet but when I do I think I'll give the characters at the heart of the Malazan Empire a proper go with all the lessons I've picked up over the years.
Again thanks for coming in and sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for the feedback, really appreciate your enthusiasm.
I hope to do something like this again soon. when I do I will keep this in mind.
I haven't read Dancer's Lament yet but when I do I think I'll give the characters at the heart of the Malazan Empire a proper go with all the lessons I've picked up over the years.
Again thanks for coming in and sharing your thoughts.
It's really hard to find information about Cotillion's looks in the series. I'm just about to read all the books for the second time and this time I _have_ to take notes. But I digress.
As for the Dancer, yes, I guess I'd see him much leaner (but still well-built) and wrapped in night camo, but again - It's pretty hard to make a shadowy-dark-hooded-etc creature look interesting.
Still, after seeing the rest of your gallery (and how fast you're progressing as an artist), I'd love to see an updated version of Cottillion some day.
And again I agree, Shadowthrone is to me more like a pattern of ever-changing shadows without a surface or a direct source of light to cast them. Probably the closest I got was making a 3D model, rendering it with strong light, then extracting only the shadows. Then changing the angle of light and repeating the process a few times. What I ended up with were many layers of shadows resembling a vague representation of a human. It still didn't work to well.
As for the Dancer, yes, I guess I'd see him much leaner (but still well-built) and wrapped in night camo, but again - It's pretty hard to make a shadowy-dark-hooded-etc creature look interesting.
Still, after seeing the rest of your gallery (and how fast you're progressing as an artist), I'd love to see an updated version of Cottillion some day.
And again I agree, Shadowthrone is to me more like a pattern of ever-changing shadows without a surface or a direct source of light to cast them. Probably the closest I got was making a 3D model, rendering it with strong light, then extracting only the shadows. Then changing the angle of light and repeating the process a few times. What I ended up with were many layers of shadows resembling a vague representation of a human. It still didn't work to well.
Wow that's interesting, did you post it up anywhere? I'm keen to have a look. As far as originality goes that tops the chart!
I think I'm gonna try a more elaborate picture for my next Malazan effort, trying to get my dynamism game going so I'm planning to do a few fight scenes.
Cottilion and Kalam fighting in the tent was one of the ideas I felt like persuing but I doubt I could make the lighting work as its meant to have been in near complete darkness.
I think I'm gonna try a more elaborate picture for my next Malazan effort, trying to get my dynamism game going so I'm planning to do a few fight scenes.
Cottilion and Kalam fighting in the tent was one of the ideas I felt like persuing but I doubt I could make the lighting work as its meant to have been in near complete darkness.
I guess it's still somewhere on my drive. It never actually went through digital painting process, just a shape on a transparent background. If I stumble upon it you'll be first to know
As for a fight scene, I'm all for it, especially that you've some sketches of them both I can see.
As for a fight scene, I'm all for it, especially that you've some sketches of them both I can see.