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BJPentecost's avatar
I definitely recommend building your own models from scratch. You don't want to be limited by using other people's models. But at the same time, there's no harm in downloading them and studying them. Seeing and understanding how other people model will help you learn to model.
Internet-Cancer's avatar
Something that came to my concern is...well...let me show you.
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Note the flowing outfit and extremely long hair.
I'm getting ahead of myself here, but that hair worries me more than the clothes and I can already hear my i5 processor and stock video rendering card screaming in mercy.
Another area of concern is her ass. I haven't gotten up to it in the tutorial series yet but the tutorial I'm using has a very simple, cartoony character model, whereas this one is basically a tweaked, stylized photorealistic person.

But...I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm sketching her in a T-pose from various angles and because I've never done this I've never quite realized how massive this character's body is. Specifically her tree trunks of legs.
BJPentecost's avatar
All I can tell you is to take it one step at a time and most importantly, don't let the frustration deter you. That's the BIG reason I see people giving up on 3D. It can be difficult to learn and frustrating.
Internet-Cancer's avatar
Patience is my one downfall.
I want to learn this to spite college wasting my time and money.
I learned photoshop in college only to realize they weren't going to teach me the aspects I wanted to learn; the painting aspects. Then I realized I could have saved thousands of dollars by switching to Krita, which is so ridiculously intuitive and powerful that I feel like I'm robbing the developers by downloading it for free.

Edit: I realized I was ranting about my personal life here and it's probably best not to do that to people I just met/kind of idolize.
BJPentecost's avatar
Heh. I can relate. College was useless for me. All it did was take a metric fuckton of my money, among other things. I'm sure it's not that way for everyone but I really did not need it. Most of what I've learned thus far as an artist is self-taught.

And I don't mind. I'm always happy to chat. :) So no worries.
Internet-Cancer's avatar
well...it's part of the reason I failed and I still have this problem and it's the reason I'm up at 9:20 in the morning without sleeping.

I cannot sleep because I haven't finished anything. The amount of anxiety of being away from my work is immense.
My books...8 of them...have been in the works for a full decade now. Those are my passion and I'm basically writing a franchise and by the time it's finished I'll have an entire universe to sell instead of a single book that I can build on.
I feel like every moment I'm not working on them is wasted and there is an immense pressure.
Learning new skills like rendering...
Hell, even going out and cooking a proper meal with fresh ingredients instead of cheap microwave stuff...and proper cleaning of the house, is sacrificed for this and I find myself on this schedule where I'm up 20 hours at a time and sleeping 6 hours until I have to grit my teeth, stay up the whole day...and then come home to pass out for a full 16 hours.
It's exhausting and I'm getting the impression that this pressure is hindering more than helping, but this phobia of dying alone and a failure is so strong that I can only describe it as a sense of perpetual dread.

...I respect artists who don't feel that sort of backbreaking pressure because I don't know any other way of working.
BJPentecost's avatar
Hah. It sounds like you and I have A LOT in common. I LOVE writing. I have hundreds of story ideas and I love writing them out. But I become afraid that no one is going to like my stories because they feature nonhuman characters, some of whom are GLBT and non-cis. I start to doubt myself and my writing skills. Then I begin to wonder if I should change my characters. Then I begin to feel like I'm wasting time, like I should be doing the thing I KNOW I'm good at (art). But then I start to wonder if I'm really as good at art as I think I am. Surely, I could do better.

Then the existential dread kicks in. What am I doing with my life? I'm already 33yo and what have I accomplished? Why am I wasting my time with this? When that happens, I tell myself "just write/art for you. Do what you want to do. And if other people like it, great. If not, oh well." But it can be difficult to stay motivated when, throughout most of my life, asspats and e-validation was my main motivation for doing anything because I had no self-esteem otherwise. My thoughts then turn hedonistic. Live for the day. Do whatever I want. Who cares? I'm eventually going to die and be forgotten anyway. Then I smack myself out of it and get back to work, trying to muscle my way through torrents of ceaseless crippling self-doubt.

And that's just about every day for me. =P
Internet-Cancer's avatar
Dude none of my characters are straight. They are ALL bisexual. and I have at least two *nudge nudge* hermaphrodite characters.
Except Victoria. She may have tits the size of her head but she raises her eyebrow at sexual advances before dismissing them.
I once felt a desire to make my characters more palpable for the public but after a full decade of writing them, I took those ideas of mass appeal, laid my arms on them, and THREW THEM OFF THE DESK INTO THE TRASH BIN.
Someone doesn't like your gay characters? It's not for them.
The fact that this guy can be successful without a contract as an independent musician (and he HAS addressed artists self-conscious of their weirdness before) and be the way he is helped me get over that preconception of what I thought people thought of my work.

My work is so laced with...abnormalities that I know I'm gonna piss someone off.
My women are all burly amazonians standing a minimum of 8 feet. My men are girly twinks standing 5 feet or shorter. Some might claim this to be a feminist message when the reality is that this is my kink and it has nothing to do with gender politics.

and uh...yeah we seem pretty similar. AFter last night I woke up at 7 PM today because I have no control over my neurosis.

and for the record I'm just gonna say this: I just got out my waist binder for the first time this year and ooooooooooooooh I forgot how good these things felt.
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