dweebzilla's avatar
as if im not aware of that fact already? people's sentiment toward it would be much different if it were a largely western religion practiced mostly by white people though
Kajm's avatar
Christianity is on every continent. It is not a 'white man's' religion, not by a long shot.
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but in most people's minds, saying the word "christian" evokes the mental image of a generic white adult. the word "muslim" evokes the image of a darker-skinned woman in hijab.
SquirrelsAreGood's avatar
Sound like own bigotry is at work on your statement!
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"but in most people's minds, saying the word "christian" evokes the mental image of a generic white adult. the word "muslim" evokes the image of a darker-skinned woman in hijab."

Very bigoted statement on your part.
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where am i bigoted? the context most people have in their minds for christianity are european or north american- most art depicts jesus as white, for christ's sake. the context people have for islam is generally centered around the middle east, and most muslims aren't white. i live in an area with a dense population of muslims and i've met or seen maybe one white muslim woman.

honestly, arms that long aren't natural. stop reaching so much.
SquirrelsAreGood's avatar
You are projecting your bigotry on to most people.  You have no idea what most people think so stop applying your bigotry on to most people.
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QuailEggsAndGoatMilk's avatar
I get your point, but most people who are Islamophobic only hate the religion, that's why they are called ISLAMophobic, not just because middle eastern people.
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i can guarantee there would be significantly less islamophobia if muslims were mostly white
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Muslims are mostly Asian. Most of the world is mostly Asian. 
dweebzilla's avatar
im aware of that, the fact remains though is that most people think "middle-eastern" when they hear the word muslim

also, asians aren't white, so my point still stands anyway
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>the fact remains though is that most people think "middle-eastern" 

Citation?

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also, asians aren't white,

Honorary Aryans and all that according to the neos tight?
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That's a hypothetical situation, so no, you can't "guarantee" anything. It's something that can't be proven one way or another.

In any case, followers of the Islamic religion are mostly being judged based on actions done in the name of their religious beliefs. It's clearly illogical to judge an entire group based on the actions of select individuals, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of religious terrorists in the world identify themselves as Muslims. It basically has nothing to do with what they look like, and everything to do with all the people who have been murdered in the name of Islam.
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ha. haha. hahaha! that's hilarious! it's almost as if you've forgotten that more people have been killed in the name of christianity than any other religion in the world today and yet somehow most christians aren't lumped in with the clinic bombers or the kkk the way muslims- who outnumber christians, by the way- are lumped in with isis. gee, could that be that a majority of people think "white person" when they think of a generic christian and "brown person" when they think of islam? it's almost as of racism is a thing that exists!! and those "islamic extremist groups" target mosques regularly; they are not followers of islam, they are fearmongers and opportunists. this hate for islam, this massive backlash, is making isis more powerful. thinking like yours is exactly what they want- you are driving peaceful muslims directly into the hands of those you would condemn.
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For one thing, I challenge you to find any type of evidence at all from any source (opinion articles don't count as "evidence" by the way) that more violence has been done in the name of Christianity than Islam. I could give you proof that more than of the ongoing armed conflicts in the world are either instigated or being perpetuated by Islamic terrorists, and that countries under Islamic law are the only ones in the world that give the death penalty for blasphemy and homosexuality, even though it's legal to for a man to marry a 12 year old girl, but it's just a "coincidence" that all these people are calling themselves Muslim, right?

The Klan and abortion clinic bombers are nothing compared to international groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS. I'm not even going to count the "Lone Wolf" Muslim terrorists, because I don't need to. If I did of course, the death toll caused by Muslims would be even higher. You sound as if you're completely unaware of the Islamic Jihads that spread across  Asia, Africa, even parts of Europe during the Middle ages, rivaling the Crusades in their ferocity, and starting centuries before them. Contrast that with Christianity which was at least sometimes spread peacefully, especially in its early history, and the modern age.

If you think that most Islamic extremists don't have at least as much hatred for non-Arabs, I've got a bridge to sell you.

You do have a point that we should try to build a good relationship with peaceful Muslims rather than pushing them away, but that's an effort that has to go both ways. You can't have a compromise where only one side gives something up, and the other side doesn't give anything. Also, the Muslims who really are peaceful won't support terrorist groups in the first place. Those who do were already considering violence beforehand.

The hatred towards Christianity and the American people demonstrated by Muslim extremists, not to mention the violence they're causing, is making the Ku Klux Klan and other groups like it more powerful. Al Qaeda and ISIS are giving Islamophobes exactly what they want- they are driving moderate Christians and conservatives into the hands of those you would condemn.
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QuailEggsAndGoatMilk's avatar
May I remind you that Islamic terrorists attacks and ISIS are a thing? Do you really think that if the people who did 9/11 and every other terrorist attack were white rather than middle eastern, then Muslims wouldn't be hated?
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may i remind you of clinic bombers and the kkk existing and christians having a history of persecuting and murdering nonchristians, gays, trans people, natives, other races, and people still not hating christians the way they hate muslims for a tiny group of extremists who literally don't even follow the religion they claim to be doing these things for? they attack mosques, they are not muslim.
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Islamic extremism today causes way more damage then christian extremism. And just because they "aren't actually Muslim" doesn't change the fact that people think of Islam when they think of these attacks.
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Kajm's avatar
Oh good I am definitely not 'most'! 

But that also means that 'most' of those people who might see a muslim that way are not white, either.
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congrats

uh. not necessarily, no. because i would say a majority of muslims are non-white, it's an accurate thought to have.
Kajm's avatar
Erm, wrong direction. I meant that most Christians who might perceive muslims that way, are people of color themselves.
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that's not true like at all but alrighty then