FluffyKyubey42's avatar
Ugh, it sickens me when people act like Toriel is more sympathetic than Asgore because "OH SHEZ MAH PRESHUS GOAT MOM"!! News flash: female characters can do terrible things too. I mean, I could list ten terrible things that Toriel did in the game, but nobody seems to care about them because she's their big sexy goat mom and "OH ASSGOAR KILD KIDZ!!!" (which is not true).

I'll admit it's fun to come up with backstories for Sans and Papyrus, but at the end of the day it's all fanon and Asgore is still the more sympathetic character. Both of his children died brutally on the same day, one of them was killed by humans even after he raised one of them, his wife left him for petty reasons, and he spent many years secluded from monster society because he was ashamed of his actions. Sans... is just a lazy skeleton who knows more about the resets than the other monsters, may or may not suffer from depression because of it, and may or may not be connected to Gaster, and is a bit of a jackass. Yeah, I think Asgore wins the sympathy game.
CaptainPopplio's avatar
Even if Asgore did kill the other humans, it was quite clear that he didn't want to anyways. Also people get on Asgore for declaring war on humanity, whereas they ignore that Toriel has also stereotyped all monsters outside the Ruins as merciless killers (if you kill her when she is close to being spared). Also Toriel is only sexy if you deliberately try to make her sexy. She's literally an anthropomorphic goat wearing a robe in canon. I always feel ashamed to be male when others judge things based off of how attractive they are.

Yeah, it's really annoying how this one headcanon that Sans saw his dad die, remembers all timelines, and is a depressed emo edgelord. Flowey/Asriel and Chara are the only characters to remember past timelines in canon, and other characters like Toriel and Asgore are hinted at remembering timelines just as much as Sans is. The game never states that he has a connection to Gaster, for all we know, he could have just found the Gaster Blasters lying around somewhere (maybe while hanging out with Alphys, another underrated character)
FluffyKyubey42's avatar
Plus, everyone likes to imagine that all the humans were helpless children, but there's no evidence that that's true. Actually, both the tutu and the ballet shoes are covered in dust which is basically monster guts, and putting them on makes you feel "deadly" or something like that. And one of the humans had a freaking gun. An empty gun, but still a gun. Damn those furries for taking a relatively modest character and making her a sex symbol. No need for you to feel ashamed to be male; judging people based on how attractive they are is the fault of insane perverts, not a certain gender. Actually, I can kinda relate seeing how so many fangirls make Sans into a dirty smooth talker and a sex maniac and therefore somehow a better love interest for Toriel (even though Sans is pretty asexual from what we've seen in canon, and Asgore actually has a biological child so he clearly did the deed at some point). As if being more sexual somehow makes you a better character and love interest.


Sans may be depressed, but he's pretty good at hiding it and is definitely not emo. And plenty of characters remember tidbits of past timelines, but Sans is the only one to actually know about the resets. Granted, this could make for interesting fanon stories, like how Sans figured out about the resets in the first place, but unfortunately many fans attribute remembering the timelines to just sans in order to make him more "speshul". And fanon about how Sans and Papyrus found the Gaster Blasters and their possible connection to Gaster can be interesting, but most of the time it just feels very cookie cutter. (And yes, Alphys is very underrated.)
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Yeah, one human had an empty gun. Chances are, it may be empty because the human may have used it against monsters. I don't mind the concept of furries, in fact I actually like good anthro art, but those ones that take their interest too far really ruined it for everyone. And yeah, I know I should t feel ashamed for the actions of others who share my gender, it just affects me by making me feel nervous to state I like a specific female character for fear of being called out for only liking it for sexual reasons, when that's obviously not the case (I jokingly call characters my waifu or husbando sometimes though).

Suprisingly, though I do get annoyed about how much attention the skelebros get in the fandom, Papyrus is actually my favorite character, alongside a lil flower goat child.

Also something I find strange is that the Undertale fandom despises Asgore for killing kids, yet the FNaF fandom loves Purple Guy who killed kids for no good reason. And he gets so much porn too.
FluffyKyubey42's avatar
And even if the human with the gun WAS a child, it still has a lot of implications regarding why a kid would have a gun in the first place. I don't really mind furries and anthro art either, but I do feel that the porn can go too far at times. And don't worry about it, I feel the same way sometimes considering how so many fangirls will do crazy things like fetishize gay pairings or romanticize unambiguously evil characters like Draco or Syndrome. (I call my characters waifus and husbandos too, but they're just terms I use for characters I like.)

Even though the skelebros are really overrated, I feel like Papyrus is underrated compared to Sans. Unless he's involved in sexual stuff, of freaking course.

I've never played FNAF, but I can never understand why people would romanticize or sexualize a child killer who had no motives whatsoever but hate Asgore. Is it because they hate kids? Do they hate morally complex characters? Do they hate Asgore simply for shipping reasons? I'll never know.
CaptainPopplio's avatar
Heh, that's nice to know that we can relate on that! It really bothers me when some males are a fan of something because they find the girls "hawt". Funnily enough, I've seen people like stuff such as Teen Titans Go because they find the female characters attractive.

I feel like Papyrus wouldn't be as popular if he had no connection to Sans. Same goes for characters like Gaster and Grillby.

Don't question the FNaF fandom. People ship characters who don't even physically appear in the game. Also GAR YA NEVEH PLAYED FNAF?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!1! FRICk U IM TrIGERED!!!!11!!!!111one111! IM NAUGHT Ya FRENDz ANYMOAR!!!!111!!!one111!!! But yeah, seriously, I cannot understand why people sexualize Purple Guy. His sprite is Atari style and looks goofy (I cannot look at it without hearing "Why hello there, old sport!") and as far as we know he killed kids for no reason. And people are mad about what happens to him in the third game. Oh yeah and Sister Location has some implications about how he may actually look.
FluffyKyubey42's avatar
Totally! Seriously, you gotta take abilities and personality into account, too. How are the characters attractive? Teen Titans Go has such a goofy cartoon style!

I feel the same way.

That is just insane. (Lol, I'm not avoiding the game cuz of the fandom, I just never found the opportunity and I have other games to play.) Purple Guy honestly reminds me of a purple version of the ET sprite from the horrible ET Atari game, and he had no motivation to kill those kids. Perfect husbando material!
CaptainPopplio's avatar
People like that make me nervous to admit to liking stuff like Salazzle or Primarina. Also, some guys just get turned on to the idea of anything being female, no matter how they look, also Teen Titans Go has a fandom, but it's very small, and most people who enjoy it are screaming toddlers or creepy adults who wish death on Mr. Enter (I don't even like him that much). I've seen like two Teen Titans Go fans who don't fit into either categories.

Ha, just wanted to mock the stereotypical FNaF fan. And after looking at that ET sprite, I totally can see what you mean! Are Atari ET fangirls gonna be the next thing? Honestly, considering what I've seen, I wouldn't be surprised.
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