Yeah, but all the more interesting! You can take the Turnierbuch as an example of how things were done, what kinds of tournaments there were and what equipment they necessitated. The Triumphzug is a really "colourful" collection of warriors (mostly), but with a generous amount of fantasy in there as well; so you can never be entirely sure as to the realism and objects of the people depicted (except for the wagons, which most probably don't have had any "real" counterpart 
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Seems we're sitting in the same boat, I thought I'd have plenty of time and resources to be drawing more during the easter break, but in reality things are different and I just throw in minor drawings when I have the time. Actually, this one is the one of the few 100% serious pieces I have been working on (and I'm a bit disappointed the scanner reduced the colours so much; in reality, I had a greater variation of reds).
And yeah, the glorious appearance of this kind of equipment really call for an elaborate mode of presentation!
)Seems we're sitting in the same boat, I thought I'd have plenty of time and resources to be drawing more during the easter break, but in reality things are different and I just throw in minor drawings when I have the time. Actually, this one is the one of the few 100% serious pieces I have been working on (and I'm a bit disappointed the scanner reduced the colours so much; in reality, I had a greater variation of reds).
And yeah, the glorious appearance of this kind of equipment really call for an elaborate mode of presentation!
Well the Triumphzug is obviously full of allegories, but i wouldn't be too dismissive with the chariots. Because i know they build some weird ones for the coronation of Christian I of Sweden. But then again, i'm guessing the triumphal procession shown is a work of propaganda and not meant to be a realistic portraying of a real triumphal procession.
Yes, it very tedious when you want to do something but you lack the inspiration or enthusiasm to put it to work. Oh well, it'll probably blow over soon
Yes, it very tedious when you want to do something but you lack the inspiration or enthusiasm to put it to work. Oh well, it'll probably blow over soon
That's the issue with it, yeah. Just like the Ehrenpforte! Ha, now that's interesting! There isn't much proof for the existence of these luxury wagons, the only halfway similar one I know being the chariot of the Landshut wedding (which is celebrated today as a huge festival).
Yeah but we all have that from time to time, and it could be much worse I believe. You can't always be in best form!
Ha, now that's interesting! There isn't much proof for the existence of these luxury wagons, the only halfway similar one I know being the chariot of the Landshut wedding (which is celebrated today as a huge festival).Yeah but we all have that from time to time, and it could be much worse I believe. You can't always be in best form!
My guess is that these wagons could have, if they were used, been built for this sole purpose and later scrapped. And when it comes to triumphal arches; they were often made of wood and raised for certain occasions. They were not always made in stone like the ones the Romans left behind.
But if you are reffering to the one drawn by Albrecht Dürer: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
Then it's without a doubt a allegorical piece of art.
Never heard of Landshuter Hochzeit, thanks for showing me!
I'm very envious of you Germans (is it offensive to call an Austrian German?) when it comes to keeping old folk fests alive. Sadly we have lost that tradition.
But if you are reffering to the one drawn by Albrecht Dürer: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
Then it's without a doubt a allegorical piece of art.
Never heard of Landshuter Hochzeit, thanks for showing me!
I'm very envious of you Germans (is it offensive to call an Austrian German?) when it comes to keeping old folk fests alive. Sadly we have lost that tradition.
Yes that's the one I meant, I don't know of any real arches built under his reign.
The Landhut marriage is surely an exception, with very few similar events (the only one I know is the celebration of st.peter and paul in Bretten). But yes, the Austrians are quite fond of a number of traditions.
Is it offensive? Well, depends on who you're talking to, and if the person acknowledges that Germany and Austria have a lot of history in common It's not offensove, but we have our own country after all 
The Landhut marriage is surely an exception, with very few similar events (the only one I know is the celebration of st.peter and paul in Bretten). But yes, the Austrians are quite fond of a number of traditions.
Is it offensive? Well, depends on who you're talking to, and if the person acknowledges that Germany and Austria have a lot of history in common
It's not offensove, but we have our own country after all I have to say that Maximilian I very much tickles my interest, there is something fascinating about him. Might just be the fact that he left so much art after him.
Well we have none... So you guys are waaaay ahead of us
I see, although here i used it in a more ethno-cultural sense.
Well we have none... So you guys are waaaay ahead of us
I see, although here i used it in a more ethno-cultural sense.
"Wer [sich] im leben kain gedechtnus macht, der hat nach seinem tod kain gedechtnus, und demselben menschen wird mit dem glockendon vergessen." is his most famous quote after all
"He who doesn't create 'memory' of himself, will not have any memory after his death, and the same person will be forgotten with the ring of the bell."
And he's an interesting guy indeed, I think we talked about that somewhere else; Maximilian being kinda between two eras.
Yes, that's what I meant with depends on who you're talking to. The cultural similarities would of course be reason enough to talk about a "german" culture; however, Austrians may think of that as being insensible towards the differences there are (which in a way are an important part of the self-image of the Austrians )
"He who doesn't create 'memory' of himself, will not have any memory after his death, and the same person will be forgotten with the ring of the bell."
And he's an interesting guy indeed, I think we talked about that somewhere else; Maximilian being kinda between two eras.
Yes, that's what I meant with depends on who you're talking to. The cultural similarities would of course be reason enough to talk about a "german" culture; however, Austrians may think of that as being insensible towards the differences there are (which in a way are an important part of the self-image of the Austrians
)That's a good quote!
Haha, yes we did. We spoke about the monarchs who ruled during the transition from Medieval culture to the renaissance.
It's a bit like Danes and Swedes i would imagine! You could call us Scandinavians and speak of a Scandinavian culture, but don't come call a Swede a Dane or vice versa
P.S. Do you know of the English historian Peter H Wilson? He's written a bit about the Holy Roman Empire.
Haha, yes we did. We spoke about the monarchs who ruled during the transition from Medieval culture to the renaissance.
It's a bit like Danes and Swedes i would imagine! You could call us Scandinavians and speak of a Scandinavian culture, but don't come call a Swede a Dane or vice versa
P.S. Do you know of the English historian Peter H Wilson? He's written a bit about the Holy Roman Empire.
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