Comment on DOOM Eternal - Marauder by Xous54
I stand by the fact his "companion" could be the guy in the armor who made Doomguys in an odd retrospective way,could be the second marine we see in the background of 93s cover. Just a guess on that one. He is the betrayer,he betrayed the Slayer,knights,his people and now the demons.
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Yeah. But,people say we killed Olivia,we didn't she was already dead the moment she sank in that flesh pit and the Spider-mastermind used her flesh and parts to construct a form for herself. She literally needed her to be the key to awakening her.
That electricity shocking Olivia was the spiritual form and essence of the Imparatrix herself. It's stated in the codex.
Just wanna say. I've just been studying this franchise for a long while now and it just fascinates me. But,I'm not disagreeing or arguing in any way.
Your right that maybe it could be the guys son since he did BECOME a demon like in the codex. They just don't say specifically what kind of demon. I read this thing quite a lot. But,only the developers can decide where the pieces fall into place.
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Yeah. But,people say we killed Olivia,we didn't she was already dead the moment she sank in that flesh pit and the Spider-mastermind used her flesh and parts to construct a form for herself. She literally needed her to be the key to awakening her.
That electricity shocking Olivia was the spiritual form and essence of the Imparatrix herself. It's stated in the codex.
Just wanna say. I've just been studying this franchise for a long while now and it just fascinates me. But,I'm not disagreeing or arguing in any way.
Your right that maybe it could be the guys son since he did BECOME a demon like in the codex. They just don't say specifically what kind of demon. I read this thing quite a lot. But,only the developers can decide where the pieces fall into place.
I don't think so, no. It's more likely to be either an ex-ally or something along those lines. And yes, I'm aware. You're not the only one who's studied the lore.
Yeah,sorry if I came off so pretentious and rude.
Hopefully this one will be good,I mean I know they won't disappoint but,I was worried the first time when Doom was making a comeback.
Hopefully this one will be good,I mean I know they won't disappoint but,I was worried the first time when Doom was making a comeback.
I did think that The Marauder is The Wretch, maybe when The Marauder appears he might be fighting aside us or he will appear in the beginning of the game.
What I forgot to mention is the knights were forced to look after the Wraiths due to the last 3 being desperate to survive. The people of Argent D'Nur didn't want to worship them and feared for their lives.
But,this deal was made so the Wraiths could have some protection and Doomguy and his knights would prevent the wrath of the desperate Wraiths from killing their people.
And in a twitter post,there was a picture of one of the multiplayer maps containing 3 statues of the Wraiths when they were alive,one of them had the Crucible in their hands.
So the crucible isn't Doomguys weapon,but,belonged to one of the Wraiths. Each one had an item in their hands.
The Wraith in the right has it.
pbs.twimg.com/media/DSiw2ZCX4A…
But,this deal was made so the Wraiths could have some protection and Doomguy and his knights would prevent the wrath of the desperate Wraiths from killing their people.
And in a twitter post,there was a picture of one of the multiplayer maps containing 3 statues of the Wraiths when they were alive,one of them had the Crucible in their hands.
So the crucible isn't Doomguys weapon,but,belonged to one of the Wraiths. Each one had an item in their hands.
The Wraith in the right has it.
pbs.twimg.com/media/DSiw2ZCX4A…
Sadly,I fear that he'll die. Doomguy had been gone for too long since he gave him his armor. (Now retconned to resemble the old armor,but,that's fine.)
Who knows how long he's been corrupted by the wraiths now demon controlled power. Or maybe too much Wraith (Argent) energy and magic has created a permanent strain on him. That's probably the true effect of their power.
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Besides all armor,tech of the UAC,structures even in Argent D'Nur,Slayers armor,Haydens new body,robots,guns,Knights weapons and even the power-ups themselves are made of Argent energy. Even Vega,who was the fracture the UAC found according to the first codex.
The only reason the knights and Doomguy can handle it and not the soldiers,unless their combat suits had a VERY small portion of that energy and scientists was cause of the pact they made with the wraiths who threatened the knights and the Slayers people forcing them to worship them as gods,though by looking at Eternals concept of the ruins of the Wraiths home,sentinel prime. They were most definitely desperate.
Argent used to be Mars' lost civilization. So that answers the are they human question,yes,they look humanoid and close to Earths humans,but,no,not completely.
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Not making this up either,if you read carefully all this is true,hell the Icon isn't Doomguys son,it's the Wretches. He probably will say,he hopes you finish your journey and free his son from the spiritual manifestation possessing his son which gives the Icon his form.
Like what happened to Olivia,she didn't become a demon,she was skinned,harvested,peeled and in some way her organs and Brain and tech would merge into the form the Aranea Imperatrix needed.
"The tome, found in the crypt of a destroyed tower of unknown construction (codenamed PL E2M8), spoke cryptically of the Aranea Imperatrix as being the union between the master of the fourth age of Hell and the "key holder", referred to only as being a female with no further clarification. The form of the Aranea Imperatrix is said to be carried in the mind of all demons, to be fed with the blood of those who have fallen in battle, and to be made with bones of rock, iron, steel, and sinew."
doomwiki.org/wiki/Spider_Maste…
Here's a piece of audio from this mod that was taken from the games files,I think...read the comments,the person behind the mod explains it.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6M5US…
The Kins1 year ago
The intro audio? It's a voiceover that was reversed and attached to a tree prop. There are a few other clips in the game files where the developers salvaged removed Demon Lore for ambient hell sounds, but this one was the one that took me the least time to find and make a bit more audible.?
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Even found this before this video was made back in 2017. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogl_kt… This video came out in 2018.
It's not cut content,it's just a reference to Tei Tenga like the original game did on the monitor screens. Tei Tenga was the ORIGINAL setting for Doom back when the original title was supposed to be "Doom: Evil Unleashed". Before changing just to,Doom back in 1993.
Fun Fact: The dead marine in Duke 3D was how Doomguy originally died in the Doom Bible,when he had a name,not from the shitty fan-made novels. It was Buddy Dacote. (Dacote means,Dies At Conclusion Of The Episode.)
Since he died in Episode 1,just like in the final version after we get jumped by demons instead of killed by whoever the bruiser brothers were gonna be before they had image,people say It's the Barons of Hell.
But,there wasn't a name or image of the first boss of the original Doom bible yet,all that was said was,that they were twins. They were remade and finally given form as the Hell Guardians in Doom 2016 as the second boss this time.
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Doom Bible: Doom Guys name: 5years.doomworld.com/doombible…
His description: Buddy Dacote: the guy that dies
Age: 29 Weight: 202 Height: 6’2”
Physical Description: Very fit and powerful, Buddy always wears a hat that says “BEOS” which stands for “Butt End of Space.” Caucasian with brown/Blond hair and green eyes.
Character Description: Popular and courageous, Buddy got sent to Tei Tenga Darkside for showing up a superior officer. His stay here is just temporary though – he was sent here as a security advisor. Buddy has a good sense of humor. Inside Info: Dacote stands for “Dies at conclusion of this episode.”
Bruiser Brothers:
Bruiser Brothers
Twin terrors at the end of episode one, these guys do the following:
(Insert interesting description of behavior and how they are beat here.)
Unmaker: 5years.doomworld.com/doombible…
Description: There are many weapons in doom (with color used for personal palette of player):
Unmaker (white). Demon-tech weapon that hurts pure demons a lot, demon-humans very little, tech demons some. Made of demon bones.
There was another weapon called,The Dark Claw.
Dark Claw (black). Demon weapon that casts a dark cloud of tortured essence.
Silent but deadly.
Ammo:
Ammo is required for weapons, of course, so here it is!
Bullets. Used by, pistol, shotgun (gamism), machine gun, spray rifle.
Cells. Plasma Gun, BFG 2704.Grenades. Grenade launcher.
Missiles. Missile Launcher.
Killed humans. The Darkclaw and Unmaker feed on human souls. Killing <------
possessed humans or hellslaves allows the weapons to feed.
(Yes,the unmaker was planned even before Doom 64 came out in 1997. Treated now as an unofficial non-cannon sequel to Doom 2. Despite it was all over in 2 cause Doomguy killed the Icon of Sin and walks away without ever been acknowledged,known, or presenced ever again,like a ghost.) Very fitting cause in Doom 1s Narrative,he's a loner. Always has been and always would be.
Even the Spidermastermind was the main threat.
12. Episode Six:
12.1 Story
Episode Six: The Final Gate
You get back and ask the military if there are any more of these holes. They
say, well, one more, but it is too small to be significant. You ask to check it out, and
want to go in prepared, just in case. They give you your choice of weapons. Your
ship lands. Then we see the hole being enlarged by a demon machine. You hit the
planet, your pilot is killed by a demon. You find the demons overruning the base
and assault the gate and try to stop them at the source after calling for help, saying
you’ll probably have it cleaned up before they get there. You battle strange new
demons, and in the end meet the General Demon, who totally slaughters you if you
try to attack him. You can find a secret way to get behind him and blow up his
machine. You run out and the "cavalry" has arrived. You take off as you order
them to nuke the gate and the planet. We see the General Demon angry as the
radiation blast flies past him, bathed in its light, threatening to awaken the ancient
ones.
There's a mod that emulates what the original beta and alpha gameplay is like.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uoV3W…
Improved trailer and gameplay.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRBcb…
You even use a severed hand to activate a console to open a door,there's even another section where you used a severed head to scan the eye on a door scanner.
5years.doomworld.com/doombible…
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Plus,the names of the people in the original Doom are the ones in Rise of The Triad,this is before Tom Hall left Id Software and brought the characters into their own game,well,sort of. Rise of The Triad was supposed to be a Wolfenstein 3D sequel,but,was cancelled. So Tom Hall made a reference of the main 4 plus,adding one of the random side characters from Doom bible,whoever he would've been or if he even contributed to the story at all or not became the 5th character in ROTT. And didn't play a big role in Doom.
But,John Romero and Carmack weren't too big on it and scrapped 3 months of Tom Halls work. Fun fact: John Romero only did maps for Episode 1 of Doom,Peters did 2 and 3 and most of the maps of Doom 2,not John Romero,he did a couple,but,not all of them. He may have over exaggerated and lied a bit.
Sadly,Hall never got credit for his work,parts of his original ideas were used in Doom 1,and 64 and 2016 which is a giant love letter to all of Doom. He brought the idea of Hell crossing over in Doom 1,which they reused in 3 and 2016.
Even the Ark from the Doom movie is referenced in the same area you get the BFG.
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And the Spidermastermind in Doom 3,people assume it is, is really an arachnotron,wanna see what the Spider Mastermind REALLY looks like here you go:
doom.fandom.com/wiki/Unfinishe…
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/do…
This is an Arachnotron: (But,people keep mistaking it.) Only Doom 3s phobos mod got it right. In this old trailer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIbbV…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOf2z9… (Fanmade sounds for Doom 3 since the Arachnotron had no sounds)
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/do…
25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqe…
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The mod is finally released,but,it's an episodic thing,so we have to wait for others. (No Arachnotron yet.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIbbV…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI457l…
www.moddb.com/mods/phobos
I should probably stop here I've said quite a lot. Point being,the fanbase has made a couple of misinformation for the last 2 decades,still going from what I see and I just wanted to share some info.
If that's fine,hope I'm not coming off as an ass,I apologize. I just,like Doom,a lot.
Oh,one last thing,the mobile Doom games (Doom RPG and Doom RPG 2) were the ones that tied the family tree of BJ,Commander Keen and Doomguy in the mid 2000s,not the classics. And sadly...it seems weird cause Doom RPG 1 ties to Doom 3 which is a remake of Doom 1 and Doom RPG 2 ties to the classics. They can tie an original and remake together,wouldn't make sense.
But,I do like the family tree idea,I'll admit.
Also,this is where people get the original Doomguy thing from. (To end on this note.)
i.redd.it/cpp9f88zhphz.png
Would be cool if this is confirmed true.
R.I.P. Daisy
i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/84/0…
orig00.deviantart.net/1dc5/f/2…
Who knows how long he's been corrupted by the wraiths now demon controlled power. Or maybe too much Wraith (Argent) energy and magic has created a permanent strain on him. That's probably the true effect of their power.
--------------------------------------------------------
Besides all armor,tech of the UAC,structures even in Argent D'Nur,Slayers armor,Haydens new body,robots,guns,Knights weapons and even the power-ups themselves are made of Argent energy. Even Vega,who was the fracture the UAC found according to the first codex.
The only reason the knights and Doomguy can handle it and not the soldiers,unless their combat suits had a VERY small portion of that energy and scientists was cause of the pact they made with the wraiths who threatened the knights and the Slayers people forcing them to worship them as gods,though by looking at Eternals concept of the ruins of the Wraiths home,sentinel prime. They were most definitely desperate.
Argent used to be Mars' lost civilization. So that answers the are they human question,yes,they look humanoid and close to Earths humans,but,no,not completely.
--------------------------------------------------------
Not making this up either,if you read carefully all this is true,hell the Icon isn't Doomguys son,it's the Wretches. He probably will say,he hopes you finish your journey and free his son from the spiritual manifestation possessing his son which gives the Icon his form.
Like what happened to Olivia,she didn't become a demon,she was skinned,harvested,peeled and in some way her organs and Brain and tech would merge into the form the Aranea Imperatrix needed.
"The tome, found in the crypt of a destroyed tower of unknown construction (codenamed PL E2M8), spoke cryptically of the Aranea Imperatrix as being the union between the master of the fourth age of Hell and the "key holder", referred to only as being a female with no further clarification. The form of the Aranea Imperatrix is said to be carried in the mind of all demons, to be fed with the blood of those who have fallen in battle, and to be made with bones of rock, iron, steel, and sinew."
doomwiki.org/wiki/Spider_Maste…
Here's a piece of audio from this mod that was taken from the games files,I think...read the comments,the person behind the mod explains it.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6M5US…
The Kins1 year ago
The intro audio? It's a voiceover that was reversed and attached to a tree prop. There are a few other clips in the game files where the developers salvaged removed Demon Lore for ambient hell sounds, but this one was the one that took me the least time to find and make a bit more audible.?
-----------------------------------------------------
Even found this before this video was made back in 2017. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogl_kt… This video came out in 2018.
It's not cut content,it's just a reference to Tei Tenga like the original game did on the monitor screens. Tei Tenga was the ORIGINAL setting for Doom back when the original title was supposed to be "Doom: Evil Unleashed". Before changing just to,Doom back in 1993.
Fun Fact: The dead marine in Duke 3D was how Doomguy originally died in the Doom Bible,when he had a name,not from the shitty fan-made novels. It was Buddy Dacote. (Dacote means,Dies At Conclusion Of The Episode.)
Since he died in Episode 1,just like in the final version after we get jumped by demons instead of killed by whoever the bruiser brothers were gonna be before they had image,people say It's the Barons of Hell.
But,there wasn't a name or image of the first boss of the original Doom bible yet,all that was said was,that they were twins. They were remade and finally given form as the Hell Guardians in Doom 2016 as the second boss this time.
----------------------------------------------------
Doom Bible: Doom Guys name: 5years.doomworld.com/doombible…
His description: Buddy Dacote: the guy that dies
Age: 29 Weight: 202 Height: 6’2”
Physical Description: Very fit and powerful, Buddy always wears a hat that says “BEOS” which stands for “Butt End of Space.” Caucasian with brown/Blond hair and green eyes.
Character Description: Popular and courageous, Buddy got sent to Tei Tenga Darkside for showing up a superior officer. His stay here is just temporary though – he was sent here as a security advisor. Buddy has a good sense of humor. Inside Info: Dacote stands for “Dies at conclusion of this episode.”
Bruiser Brothers:
Bruiser Brothers
Twin terrors at the end of episode one, these guys do the following:
(Insert interesting description of behavior and how they are beat here.)
Unmaker: 5years.doomworld.com/doombible…
Description: There are many weapons in doom (with color used for personal palette of player):
Unmaker (white). Demon-tech weapon that hurts pure demons a lot, demon-humans very little, tech demons some. Made of demon bones.
There was another weapon called,The Dark Claw.
Dark Claw (black). Demon weapon that casts a dark cloud of tortured essence.
Silent but deadly.
Ammo:
Ammo is required for weapons, of course, so here it is!
Bullets. Used by, pistol, shotgun (gamism), machine gun, spray rifle.
Cells. Plasma Gun, BFG 2704.Grenades. Grenade launcher.
Missiles. Missile Launcher.
Killed humans. The Darkclaw and Unmaker feed on human souls. Killing <------
possessed humans or hellslaves allows the weapons to feed.
(Yes,the unmaker was planned even before Doom 64 came out in 1997. Treated now as an unofficial non-cannon sequel to Doom 2. Despite it was all over in 2 cause Doomguy killed the Icon of Sin and walks away without ever been acknowledged,known, or presenced ever again,like a ghost.) Very fitting cause in Doom 1s Narrative,he's a loner. Always has been and always would be.
Even the Spidermastermind was the main threat.
12. Episode Six:
12.1 Story
Episode Six: The Final Gate
You get back and ask the military if there are any more of these holes. They
say, well, one more, but it is too small to be significant. You ask to check it out, and
want to go in prepared, just in case. They give you your choice of weapons. Your
ship lands. Then we see the hole being enlarged by a demon machine. You hit the
planet, your pilot is killed by a demon. You find the demons overruning the base
and assault the gate and try to stop them at the source after calling for help, saying
you’ll probably have it cleaned up before they get there. You battle strange new
demons, and in the end meet the General Demon, who totally slaughters you if you
try to attack him. You can find a secret way to get behind him and blow up his
machine. You run out and the "cavalry" has arrived. You take off as you order
them to nuke the gate and the planet. We see the General Demon angry as the
radiation blast flies past him, bathed in its light, threatening to awaken the ancient
ones.
There's a mod that emulates what the original beta and alpha gameplay is like.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uoV3W…
Improved trailer and gameplay.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRBcb…
You even use a severed hand to activate a console to open a door,there's even another section where you used a severed head to scan the eye on a door scanner.
5years.doomworld.com/doombible…
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plus,the names of the people in the original Doom are the ones in Rise of The Triad,this is before Tom Hall left Id Software and brought the characters into their own game,well,sort of. Rise of The Triad was supposed to be a Wolfenstein 3D sequel,but,was cancelled. So Tom Hall made a reference of the main 4 plus,adding one of the random side characters from Doom bible,whoever he would've been or if he even contributed to the story at all or not became the 5th character in ROTT. And didn't play a big role in Doom.
But,John Romero and Carmack weren't too big on it and scrapped 3 months of Tom Halls work. Fun fact: John Romero only did maps for Episode 1 of Doom,Peters did 2 and 3 and most of the maps of Doom 2,not John Romero,he did a couple,but,not all of them. He may have over exaggerated and lied a bit.
Sadly,Hall never got credit for his work,parts of his original ideas were used in Doom 1,and 64 and 2016 which is a giant love letter to all of Doom. He brought the idea of Hell crossing over in Doom 1,which they reused in 3 and 2016.
Even the Ark from the Doom movie is referenced in the same area you get the BFG.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And the Spidermastermind in Doom 3,people assume it is, is really an arachnotron,wanna see what the Spider Mastermind REALLY looks like here you go:
doom.fandom.com/wiki/Unfinishe…
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/do…
This is an Arachnotron: (But,people keep mistaking it.) Only Doom 3s phobos mod got it right. In this old trailer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIbbV…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOf2z9… (Fanmade sounds for Doom 3 since the Arachnotron had no sounds)
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/do…
25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqe…
-------------------------------------------------
The mod is finally released,but,it's an episodic thing,so we have to wait for others. (No Arachnotron yet.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIbbV…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI457l…
www.moddb.com/mods/phobos
I should probably stop here I've said quite a lot. Point being,the fanbase has made a couple of misinformation for the last 2 decades,still going from what I see and I just wanted to share some info.
If that's fine,hope I'm not coming off as an ass,I apologize. I just,like Doom,a lot.
Oh,one last thing,the mobile Doom games (Doom RPG and Doom RPG 2) were the ones that tied the family tree of BJ,Commander Keen and Doomguy in the mid 2000s,not the classics. And sadly...it seems weird cause Doom RPG 1 ties to Doom 3 which is a remake of Doom 1 and Doom RPG 2 ties to the classics. They can tie an original and remake together,wouldn't make sense.
But,I do like the family tree idea,I'll admit.
Also,this is where people get the original Doomguy thing from. (To end on this note.)
i.redd.it/cpp9f88zhphz.png
Would be cool if this is confirmed true.
R.I.P. Daisy
i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/84/0…
orig00.deviantart.net/1dc5/f/2…
