uhh did you use xp? have you ever used a mac? i learned all my geek stuff on xp then transferred to me an 95/98 at like the same time i learned it vista i had to entirely re-learn everything im semi geeky i can fix moist of my issues myself an i usially do and if theres any one thing about vista its NOT userfriendly that was a huge fail on the part of microshaft but then agin when you delaty an os for 5 years and it endsup beeing a shinny ram hog that hadf a fit EVERYTIOME it starts up cause the nanny is turned off --oh yea i have likr THE greatest antiviri scans EVERYTHING then the os sais the whole computer ISHE secure cause i turned off the nanny i call bullshit but then im a mac fan and i want ANY reason to bash windoze infact the only os from microshaft that ive had and online that a re-boot fixed my issues whatever they were was the awesome me but i got it once xp got big an whiped before i started using my xps its standard that i put flyakiteosx on them the vista here i need to get some themes from zeusosx an get them workin on here then itill be more tolerable ive allready got the dock like evetything minimises to