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Thanks a bunch!
But it's interesting, I've definitally been getting more and more comments about lighting and shading... maybe that'll be my next topic? Hehe. Keep tuned for it, I guess!~
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Oh I'd love that. I've been trying for years to get it right, look at other artists including lighting masters like Frank Frazetta, trying it out in life drawing, still lives, etc. etc. and NADA comes out of it. All my pieces look so flat compared to yours!
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Frank Frazetta is one amazing painter. There is still much to learn, trust me, I'm still working a ton to get it all down...
Hehe, and I took a gander at your gallery - and I think everything looks great! There is just a lack of true deep shadows to push the 3D shape and also a consistency.
I'm definitally going to do a coloring methods post sometime soon, once my schedule clears up a bit. ^^
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The bastard did most of his oil paints in less than a day, too. He's insanely talented. I always look at his and others' work when looking for shadow references, I know my consistency is WAYYYY off, and my art teacher's been trying to push my "deeper shadows" thing, and I can never seem to get it. >> I hope to see that tutorial soon, as well as more art! I'm not usually a fan of the manga/anime genre, but I love the movement in your pieces, and of course the color. =P
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I don't consider myself a "manga/anime" artist, actually, since I wasn't influenced by anime or manga when I started to draw [video games alllll the way, ohohoho.] but I hate being pidgeonholded into that description especially since it's just a general way of describing the style... le-ugh.

But guess what's even neater? When I attended a comic school back in 2001 the "field trip" was going to F. Frazetta's house/work/museum? [It was only about an hour's drive from the school, and where I had lived. XD] Hehehe... it was reeeallllllly nice, I just wished I had brought enough to buy a bunch more prints. It was spectacular. ^^
On a rare occasion, too, he'd acually come out and paint something in front of the students. I wish he did when I went, GOD it would have been amazing!!!

And I took a deeper gander at yer gallery - god the stuff looks great already! But yes, dabble in this too - sometimes I will put the darkest tone on top of the final color layer [when I work in layers, I do this: bottom layer - flat colors, 2nd layer - general shading, 3rd layer - lineart, 4th layer - deepest tones, 5th - hilights] so the 4th layer lay down the darkest color on Multiply and just use white to go around and lighten up areas of interest. You can create deeper shadings without sacrificing the original shadow layers, and make corrections as you see fit!

Ugh, I guess I need to get my butt crankin? Hehe!
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Oh my lord, say it isn't so, an artist these days who WASN'T influenced by anime/manga? I've been drawing since I could hold a pencil so my main influence was ... uh, my toys acting as models, I guess ... oh yeah, and probably Archie comics for my lame sense of humor, although I only started drawing people four or five years ago.

OH MAN, I want to go to that museum so bad! As of late I just got two of his books off Amazon for my birthday, which was awesome. Oh yeah, and I'm reading all the Conan stories because 1.) I loved the Age of Conan MMO and 2.) Frazetta's art pretty much defined those stories for me, hehehe. Frank is one of those people who's not allowed to die because he's just too damn awesome.

Generally I do: bottom layer - flat colors, 2nd layer - add the darker parts (usually becomes tons and tons of layers I then merge into each other), 3rd layer - add the lighter parts. In my latest Deviation I added some darker tones on top but not too much as usual ... and if I remember I'll add shiny bits over the line layer but I'm not so good at that.
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Is it that hard to believe? There's a lot of people like me I think, but in my opinion not enough! ehehhee. It's not that I dislike anime, but it's so mainstream now... ugh.
Exactly! I was influenced by the toys, comics, and games I played! I think partly too I come from an asian background, so I grew up famililar with the style, heh.

If you get a chance, it's AMAZING. Just one huge room with amazing paintings... they rotate them too, making sure to keep it fresh... we went during the winter months so it was mostly his sci-fi inspired pieces.. which I don't complain, there are some amazing space ones. ^^
"Not allowed to Die", I don't think you could have put that ANY BETTER. XD
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I lived in Japan for five years, and even in every other country I was in I was constantly getting manga or anime shoved into my face and down my throat from stores, friends, posters, you name it. It's made me sick to my stomach of the style, nevermind I was never really fond of it to begin with. The fanbase I've constantly run into hasn't made it any better, either.

Well when I move to Canada I'll at least be on the same continent as that museum, so that might make my chances to go there a little less slim. =P