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youtu.be/m-x8WY1XAc0?t=9m54s

this video offers a reason why an atheist would support it, along with many commenters who agree. 100k views is pretty worrying. Considering the content produced by the channel I find it hard to believe it was made in jest.

I am at least glad by how many atheists on the forum think this proposition is completely abusrd and irresponsible.

Also, what is with this "actual atheist" shit? I'm pretty sure an "actual atheist" is just someone who doesn't believe in God. Plenty of atheists also believe in stupid shit like this as well.

Even when I was an atheist though I don't think the problem is just the problem of banning literature. Few people after all actually believe Lord of the Rings has any sort of existential/transcental value. People have beliefs that are heavily inspired by the Bible and religious teachings, so banning a religion heavily influences these beliefs - some of these beliefs are indeed fundamentalist and I would agree pose a threat to society but most beliefs held by religious people are a lot less literal, a lot less about memorizing facts and more about applying philosophical principles gathered from the text and applying it to their lives. Are these beliefs dangerous? Can they even really be summed up into a "religion"? Sometimes I wonder if the beliefs just have a common origin...
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I only brought it up because several people have made this claim. I'm not sure why anti theist and atheist are mutually exclusive terms. Reeks of no true Scotsman. Several people in this thread act like becayse their personal view of atheism is different than the one I'm talking about, that it doesn't somehow represent "real atheists" as opposed to a subgroup.

Also, fuck off, this is deviantart, half of the people in this thread are fucking morons. Most of the people who are regulars on the philosophy forum are idealogues or trolls.
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Listen, my original question isn't about banning religion; it's about why it's a paradox to believe both that religion is dangerous because it makes people believe "bad morals" along with believing that people come up with their own morals.

Can you cut the crap already, we get it, you are offended that I might have suggested that all atheists hate religion or whatever. You can never be careful enough with triggered, self righteous atheists afoot.

But whatever, you obviously think that arguing on deviantart, land of inflation fetists, is worth your time... I'm just bored and like to see how people respond, what's your excuse?
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Probably because I wrote the post quickly before work yesterday and couldn't come up with a better title and I can't change it.

I said "fuck off" because it's fucking deviantart, abd you were telling me that I shouldn't say "shit" if I want to be "taken seriously". On a fucking forum full of posts from trolls, white supremacists, and delusional people. It's literally the armpit of the internet, do you think I care? Do you seriously lack that much self awareness?

Lol you're not very good at it just saying
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You forgot to account for the hordes of warring fanatical anti-theists PRETENDING to be "mere atheists".
Such people are the true reason why atheists and theists find it hard to communicate on friendly terms to begin with.
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