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teh-11's avatar
Hello there. I have been following some of your arguments lately and you argue very passionately and seem to know your subject matter. I am generally a person who sits on the fence on many issues.

I came across an issue that I am on the fence with and I would like to see your response to this argument: forum.deviantart.com/community…

The thread was originally posted in the P&R forum, but unfortunately a volunteer moved it away.

I look forward to seeing your thoughts and your discourse with other deviants (I usually form my opinions by watching others argue instead of doing the arguing myself, since I'm a fence sitter--and that way I can watch people make arguments I wouldn't have thought of myself).
Jeysie's avatar

And reading further I see she's engaging in the typical feminist behavior of misrepresenting one of my arguments because she can't make an intellectually honest response to what was actually said in the full context. It's like feminists are literally incapable of not slandering people who disagree with them.



It's also funny watching her whine because she's not mature enough to accept that advertising for something means you're going to get offers you didn't want in addition to ones you do, because there's no magic spell that enables getting attention only from perfect specimens. It's like putting out an ad for a job and then complaining that not all of the 100 or whatever applications you got were the person you wanted to hire, and you had to actually still send a nice form letter to the 99 applicants who lost out versus getting to tell them to fuck off losers. Actually, you know, it's even worse than that, as at least with a job ad the person applying has some valid idea ahead of time of what you'd want.



She really just wants a blanket excuse to be an asshole to everyone who isn't perfect enough for her, and likes to bitch and whine that folks like me won't let her get away with it.



And she's also still so obsessed with rape and molestation when rape is thankfully rare and most issues with provocative clothing are flirting/catcalling/staring, which can be annoying but are not on the same level as rape no matter much feminists want them to be. In fact, it cheapens rape and is insulting to rape victims to consider them to be on the same level.



Feminists would get taken a lot more seriously if they stopped false extremeing everything, refusing to take any responsibility for not acting like assholes, and being unable to deal with criticism in a mature and honest manner.

Jeysie's avatar

And this comment: comments.deviantart.com/18/190… by phoenixleo and a skim of the article seems to confirm my latent suspicions; the commentary in the article isn't proof that clothing is subjective, but proof that at most a few stray extremist people have a view that almost nobody else would credibly share, or at worst is a shoddy argument meant to be a coverup for an entirely different problem--namely, religious bigotry, not sexism.



One person making what would probably be generally considered as a bad argument related to the norm isn't suddenly proof that the norm isn't really the norm.

Jeysie's avatar

I've already expounded at length regards my views of Witwitch's very poor understanding of social mores. For someone who claims to want to change the world, she seems completely unwilling to study how it actually works first, so her methods can be productive/successful. Instead she seems to have it in her head that the way she wishes things worked is already how they work, and cries and whines at anyone who tries correcting her. I find that to be a typical failing of many SJWs, which is sad because they're setting the progress towards equality back something awful in the process, the least of which reason being that they look like complete morons to anyone who's not an SJW.


About the only area I really agree with on this specifically is that it's objectively dubious that an article of clothing explicitly not designed to attract attention to the body (and indeed explicitly designed to do the exact opposite) can be said to be sexual in a general sense.


The rest is just hilarious, as I wonder how delusional you have to be to deny the obvious fact that there is plenty of clothing explicitly and objectively designed to attract attention. I mean, FFS, for example, over on Tumblr I've had my dash full of her fellow feminists whining about sexy Halloween costumes for women; maybe I should tell them that their fellow feminist over on DA says there's no such thing as sexy clothing and that I propose ergo the Tumblr feminists should just solve their problem by choosing to view the costumes as not sexy because sexiness is subjective? I have to admit there'd be a certain appeal in getting to use one feminist's delusions to counter some other feminists' frivolous complaints.

semi-surreal's avatar

..."sexy Halloween costumes for women"...

is that going to be your next deviation?